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    Quote Originally Posted by agent_lime View Post
    The Tajiks are already on G25.

    This is the first time I've come across Tajik results, are the Tajik_Rushan the most steppe-shifted population in Asia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by desi View Post
    This is the first time I've come across Tajik results, are the Tajik_Rushan the most steppe-shifted population in Asia?
    Technically, Pamiris aren't even Tajik. There is a notable cultural gap between them and Dushanbe or other urban Tajiks (let alone Afghan ones from Kabul, Herat, etc); hence Pamiri nationalism in the 90's after Tajikistan’s independence. It's also worth noting that Pamiris are mostly Nizari Ismaili Shia and the majority of “standard” Tajiks are Sunni Muslim (though some Farsiwan can be Shia Tajiks) .

    Furthermore, they speak an East Iranic language while standard Tajiks speak the West Iranic Farsi/Dari. Genetically, Pamiris usually have much lower East Eurasian ancestry and more Steppe MLBA than most regular urban Tajiks (who can range from Pamiri like to Uzbek like to Pashtun like; see Panjsheris and Parwan to even Dardic shifted for those native to Kabul and the vicinity of Northeast Pashtunistan). Southern Pamiris such as Ishkashmis and Wakhis can even have a noteworthy amount of IVC like ancestry.

    Anyways, Rushani Pamiris are probably the most Steppe shifted modern pop that lives outside the periphery/borders of Europe such as Tatars and Chuvash. Some Yaghnobi (not Pamiris) and Shugnan Pamiris are close though.
    Last edited by Sapporo; 07-24-2021 at 06:00 PM.
    pegasus modeling:
    sample": "Punjabi_Jat:Sapporo_AGUser",
    "fit": 1.1506,
    "IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3": 43.33,
    "TKM_Gonur1_BA": 31.67,
    "RUS_Sintashta_MLBA": 25,
    "closestDistances": [

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    Technically, Pamiris aren't even Tajik. There is a notable cultural gap between them and Dushanbe and other urban Tajiks; hence Pamiri nationalism in the 90's after Tajikistan independence. It's worth noting that Pamiris are mostly Nizari Ismaili Shia's and the majority of Tajiks are Sunni Muslim (though some Farsiwan can be Shia Tajiks) .

    Furthermore, they speak an East Iranic language while standard Tajiks speak the West Iranic Farsi/Dari and genetically they usually have lower East Eurasian ancestry and more Steppe MLBA than many regular urban Tajiks (who can range from Pamiri like to Uzbek like to Pashtun like to even Dardic shifted for those native to Kabul and Northeast Pashtunistan). Southern Pamiris such as Ishkashmis and Wakhis can even have a noteworthy amount of IVC like ancestry.

    Anyways, Rushani Pamiris are probably the most Steppe shifted modern pop that lives outside the periphery/borders of Europe such as Tatars and Chuvash. Some Yaghnobi and Shugnan Pamiris are close though.
    Yes. And the fact that rivers emerging from Highlands of Tajikistan (part of IMAC) flow into the Aral Sea makes this region integral part of a transition zone between Central Steppe, Eastern steppe and South Central Asia. Wakhi (Pamiris of Pakistan) and those living in Chinas western borders were part of Hunza state under Tang suzerainty. They are all Ismailis.
    Last edited by Kapisa; 07-23-2021 at 11:22 PM.
     

    distance: 2.13
    sample: Kapisa (Kapisa)
    CG IVCp IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA2 I8728: 42.5
    Dzharkutan1 BA Average: 37.5
    Srubnaya Alakul MLBA Average: 17
    Chokhopani 2700BP Average: 3

    sample: Kapisa:Kapisa-Dad
    distance: 2.0944
    Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2 I8728: 41.5
    Bustan_BA Average: 37
    Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA Average: 19
    Chokhopani_2700BP Average: 2.5

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    I’ve seen a lot about Davidskis G25 coordinates throughout some threads, which has made me curious. What would these coordinates show, and how do I get them? Does anyone have a correct link or website to point me in the right direction? Thanks

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    David is not doing g25 anymore. Illustrative dna will provide g25 for a charge.
    https://illustrativedna.com/
    Target: vintagestrat_scaled
    Distance: 2.9599% / 0.02959869
    61.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3
    22.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    15.0 UZB_Bustan_BA
    0.8 NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintagestrat View Post
    David is not doing g25 anymore. Illustrative dna will provide g25 for a charge.
    https://illustrativedna.com/
    That's way expensive than what david charged. Good thing I already got mine done. People who are getting bulk samples done will be pissed.

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    Testing Mondal et al Uttar Pradesh Brahmin average.

    Target: Brahmin_UP
    Distance: 1.3794% / 0.01379431 | R2P
    86.6 Brahmin_Gujarat
    13.4 NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP

    Target: Brahmin_UP
    Distance: 1.6992% / 0.01699178 | R2P
    86.8 UP_Brahmin_AGUser_mahadev_dubey
    13.2 NPL_Samdzong_1500BP

    Seems more West Eurasian (Uygur) than West Bengal Brahmins.
    Target: Brahmin_UP
    Distance: 1.5258% / 0.01525789 | R2P
    81.6 Brahmin_West_Bengal
    18.4 Uygur


    Could have a Bahun like progenitor + base Uttar Pradesh.
    Target: Brahmin_UP
    Distance: 0.9227% / 0.00922719 | R3P
    66.0 Nepalese_A
    25.2 Gujarati
    8.8 NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP

    Target: Brahmin_UP
    Distance: 0.9507% / 0.00950727 | R3P
    73.8 Nepalese_A
    18.6 Uttar_Pradesh
    7.6 NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP


    Target: Brahmin_UP
    Distance: 1.6109% / 0.01610906
    58.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3
    21.4 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA
    13.4 NPL_Chokhopani_2700BP
    7.0 UZB_Bustan_BA


    It's closest to Gujarat and Dubey coords, no matter it's high East Asian, it's core ancestry is UP Brahmin like.

    Code:
    Brahmin_UP,0.063058,-0.0751491,-0.1064611,0.0838185,-0.0588725,0.0510928,0.000611,0.0090226,0.0147872,0.0048474,-0.0172944,-0.0006145,-0.0002825,-0.0025736,0.0032573,-0.0003711,0.0009649,-0.0010135,-0.0026521,-0.003264,-0.0003121,0.0005195,0.0020335,0.0020001,0.0012214
    Equidistant to West Bengali and Nepali Brahmins (A)/Bahun.
    Distance to: Brahmin_UP
    0.04138938 Brahmin_West_Bengal
    0.04315759 Nepalese_A
    0.04638021 Bahun
    0.05347284 Kshatriya
    0.05551841 Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu
    0.05642383 Rajput
    0.05891643 Iyer
    0.06154270 Brahmin_Gujarat
    0.06178400 Burusho
    0.06335865 IND_Roopkund_A
    0.06494751 Punjabi_Lahore
    0.06497255 Bahun_o
    0.06505790 Brahmin_Uttar_Pradesh
    Last edited by Kaazi; 07-30-2021 at 10:14 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintagestrat View Post
    David is not doing g25 anymore. Illustrative dna will provide g25 for a charge.
    https://illustrativedna.com/
    he s doing!!!..i just received 3 coordinates from him!

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    Friends, contact David at [email protected] payment is on WISE...there are some glitches, but he is doing it!

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    These were the coordinates i received from David today!

    Target: nair+poduval male_scaled
    Distance: 2.8097% / 0.02809688
    73.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    7.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    7.6 TJK_Sarazm_En
    6.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    2.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian
    2.0 Han

    Target: kurichiya_scaled
    Distance: 5.1278% / 0.05127789
    72.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    27.4 Jarawa

    Target: nambuthiri lady _scaled
    Distance: 2.2603% / 0.02260261
    79.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    14.4 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    3.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    1.8 TJK_Sarazm_En
    0.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian

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