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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    Captures good diversity of the West Himalaya as a whole. Difficult to differentiate any of them; they all look similar to each other on a group basis.

    Anyways, do you have any samples/coordinates that could be added (unscaled required) to David's spreadsheet? He adds private real (not simulated) coordinates as well if permitted to do so; conditions are that the coords must be of a person representing only 1 ethnicity, caste or tribe (unadmixed/"pure").

    Anyone else who wants to add their personal coordinates to David's spreadsheet as well can send their coords to me; both scaled and unscaled coordinates are required.
    most of them are Saidu Sharif like population. I wouldn't be surprised if ancient buddhist individuals from Taxila and Ambaran, Akhnoor were similar to them.
    Attachment 53597
    Sample Fit Saidu Sharif H Barikot H
    dogra (Kapisa) 2.14 100 0
    Salaria Rajput-HW-sim (Kapisa) 0.88 100 0
    kayani scaled (KIANI) 2.44 100 0
    Khakha Rajput Kashmir AVG (raasnokh) 1.31 99 1
    Jarral Rajput Kashmir AVG (raasnokh) 1.85 99 1
    Average (Potohar Brahmin) 1.34 97 3
    Average (Kashmiri Pakistan) 0.94 97 3
    Average (Kashmiri Pandit) 1.63 95 5
    Janjua-R2a-HW-sim (Kapisa) 2.22 95 5
    Jammu Rajput-HW-sim (Kapisa) 1.78 95 5
    Average (Potohar Rajput) 1.84 90 10
    Awan Average (Protein) 1.49 81 19
    Kapisa Mom scaled (Kapisa) 2.30 78 22
    Kapisa scaled (Kapisa) 1.82 72 28
    Janjua Jehlum-HW-sim (Kapisa) 0.90 58 42
    Average (Kohistani) 0.81 52 48
    Chakwal-Janjua-HW-sim (raasnokh) 1.71 51 49
    Kapisa dad scaled (Kapisa) 2.00 50 50
    Kapisa Sister (Kapisa) 2.97 50 50

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    Quote Originally Posted by surasena View Post
    Bengali Muslim with supposed West Asian ancestry.
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post907102

    Can someone check the veracity with better models?
    Target: scaled
    Distance: 3.5084% / 0.03508357
    49.0 AASI
    24.2 Iran_N
    22.6 Yamnaya
    4.2 CHN_Boshan_N


    Target: Bengali_Bangladesh
    Distance: 2.8966% / 0.02896600
    49.8 AASI
    23.2 Iran_N
    21.0 Yamnaya
    6.0 CHN_Boshan_N

    almost identical, he has no west asian
    Target: abceff
    Distance: 1.4984% / 0.01498382
    36.4 EEF
    18.6 Levant_Natufian_contam
    18.0 Taforalt
    10.8 SSA
    8.2 Iran_N
    8.0 Steppe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abceff View Post
    Target: scaled
    Distance: 3.5084% / 0.03508357
    49.0 AASI
    24.2 Iran_N
    22.6 Yamnaya
    4.2 CHN_Boshan_N


    Target: Bengali_Bangladesh
    Distance: 2.8966% / 0.02896600
    49.8 AASI
    23.2 Iran_N
    21.0 Yamnaya
    6.0 CHN_Boshan_N

    almost identical, he has no west asian
    Iran_N is West Asian
    يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلنَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَـٰكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍۢ وَأُنثَىٰ وَجَعَلْنَـٰكُمْ شُعُوبًۭا وَقَبَآئِلَ لِتَعَارَفُوٓا۟ ۚ إِنَّ أَكْرَمَكُمْ عِندَ ٱللَّهِ أَتْقَىٰكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ عَلِيمٌ خَبِيرٌۭ
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    G25 distance to modern pops
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    Closest:0.02643477 Spanish_CanariasLa_Palma

    Ancestry
    Closest:0.02788822 Spanish_CanariasTenerife

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    can you also post where these individuals are from specifically, what districts of JnK?

    I gotta get better at labeling. The original I had labeled really well but then on the PCA couldn't make out, so I shorten.

    JnK AVG.png

    Mughals = Mirpur/Punch
    Sudhans = Mirpur/Punch
    Khakhas = Punch
    Narmas = Punch
    Jarrals = Rajouri
    Jammu Rajputs = Jammu
    Pahari Dar = Pahari named Dar
    Kashmiri Pathan = Valley
    Koshur me = Valley
    Kashmiri muslim avg = Valley
    Kashmiri Pandit = Valley
    Kashmiri Sardar = Valley
    AF Sri = Valley

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    Balija Naidu sample scores like Velamas Average and is slightly off the IVCp cline (4025 like, SISBA3) IMO? 4% less IranN than SISBA3.

    Code:
    Balija_Naidu_scaled,0.045529,-0.084289,-0.168196,0.106591,-0.084323,0.062193,-0.00188,0.016615,0.044177,0.026242,-0.00747,-0.002398,-0.004162,0.00234,-0.007736,0.004375,0.004042,0.004561,-0.002388,0.002626,0.016845,0.002844,0.002218,0.003976,-0.00455
    Balija_Naidu_unscaled,0.004,-0.0083,-0.0446,0.033,-0.0274,0.0223,-0.0008,0.0072,0.0216,0.0144,-0.0046,-0.0016,-0.0028,0.0017,-0.0057,0.0033,0.0031,0.0036,-0.0019,0.0021,0.0135,0.0023,0.0018,0.0033,-0.0038
    Her harappaworld scores
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post846868

    Sample Fit AASI Iran N EHG WSHG Amerindian N Africa N Iberomaurusian EN WHG Sino-Tibetan MN ANF Levant N
    Komati AVG(8) (kapu2329) 1.99 50.6 40.2 7.6 1.6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Telugu-IVCp (Kaazi) 2.08 50.6 41.4 5.6 2.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    HG04025.SG (Telugu GBR) 2.23 49.4 42.6 4 2.8 1 0 0.2 0 0 0 0
    Balija Naidu scaled (Kaazi) 2.60 44.8 41.4 0 7.8 0 0 0 3.2 1.2 1 0.6
    Average (Velamas) 1.50 44.4 42 7.6 2.8 0 0 0 0 0 3.2 0
    S8728.E1.L1 (Shahr I Sokhta BA3) 2.62 44.2 45.4 2.6 6.6 0.6 0.6 0 0 0 0 0
    IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA I8728 new (Kaazi) 2.44 43.6 45 0 7.6 0.8 0.6 0 2.4 0 0 0
    Kush AGUser (Reddy) 2.18 42.2 44 6.6 0 1.8 0 0 2.2 0 3.2 0
    tipirneni AGUser (Andhra Pradesh Kamma) 1.93 41.4 43.8 0 7 0 0 0.4 3.8 1 2.6 0


    The sample (4025 & similar Telugu GBR) which we were taking as a IVCp base for lower IranN South Asians appear breakdown-wise closer to the Telugu Komati people average.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bobthebuilder View Post
    I gotta get better at labeling. The original I had labeled really well but then on the PCA couldn't make out, so I shorten.

    JnK AVG.png

    Mughals = Mirpur/Punch
    Sudhans = Mirpur/Punch
    Khakhas = Punch
    Narmas = Punch
    Jarrals = Rajouri
    Jammu Rajputs = Jammu
    Pahari Dar = Pahari named Dar
    Kashmiri Pathan = Valley
    Koshur me = Valley
    Kashmiri muslim avg = Valley
    Kashmiri Pandit = Valley
    Kashmiri Sardar = Valley
    AF Sri = Valley
    Do you have this Jammu Rajput coordinates? What's his clan?
    Last edited by Kaazi; 01-26-2023 at 08:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    https://www.reddit.com/r/SouthAsianA...t=share_button

    Balija Naidu sample scores like Velamas Average and is slightly off the IVCp cline (4025 like, SISBA3) IMO? 4% less IranN than SISBA3.

    Code:
    Balija_Naidu_scaled,0.045529,-0.084289,-0.168196,0.106591,-0.084323,0.062193,-0.00188,0.016615,0.044177,0.026242,-0.00747,-0.002398,-0.004162,0.00234,-0.007736,0.004375,0.004042,0.004561,-0.002388,0.002626,0.016845,0.002844,0.002218,0.003976,-0.00455
    Balija_Naidu_unscaled,0.004,-0.0083,-0.0446,0.033,-0.0274,0.0223,-0.0008,0.0072,0.0216,0.0144,-0.0046,-0.0016,-0.0028,0.0017,-0.0057,0.0033,0.0031,0.0036,-0.0019,0.0021,0.0135,0.0023,0.0018,0.0033,-0.0038
    Her harappaworld scores
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post846868

    Sample Fit AASI Iran N EHG WSHG Amerindian N Africa N Iberomaurusian EN WHG Sino-Tibetan MN ANF Levant N
    Komati AVG(8) (kapu2329) 1.99 50.6 40.2 7.6 1.6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Telugu-IVCp (Kaazi) 2.08 50.6 41.4 5.6 2.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    HG04025.SG (Telugu GBR) 2.23 49.4 42.6 4 2.8 1 0 0.2 0 0 0 0
    Balija Naidu scaled (Kaazi) 2.60 44.8 41.4 0 7.8 0 0 0 3.2 1.2 1 0.6
    Average (Velamas) 1.50 44.4 42 7.6 2.8 0 0 0 0 0 3.2 0
    S8728.E1.L1 (Shahr I Sokhta BA3) 2.62 44.2 45.4 2.6 6.6 0.6 0.6 0 0 0 0 0
    IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA I8728 new (Kaazi) 2.44 43.6 45 0 7.6 0.8 0.6 0 2.4 0 0 0
    Kush AGUser (Reddy) 2.18 42.2 44 6.6 0 1.8 0 0 2.2 0 3.2 0
    tipirneni AGUser (Andhra Pradesh Kamma) 1.93 41.4 43.8 0 7 0 0 0.4 3.8 1 2.6 0


    The sample (4025 & similar Telugu GBR) which we were taking as a IVCp base for lower IranN South Asians appear breakdown-wise closer to the Telugu Komati people average.




    Do you have this Jammu Rajput coordinates? What's his clan?
    Just have sims someone shared and said they were Rajputs that are similar to the other Rajputs didn't give me exact clan/tribe/caste for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakaji View Post
    Genomelink’s Ancient Admixture
    Attachment 53031
    This seems to be a K= 7 admixture calculator.

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    Gujjar from Gujranwala, Punjab, Pakistan (Chechi clan)- both paternally and maternally same clan & same region; Y-DNA: L-M27 (L1a1), mt-DNA: U7

    Sample: Kaazi ► Gujjar Punjabi Pakistan scaled
    Fit: 1.51
    Results: IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA3 51
    UZB Dzharkutan1 BA 31
    RUS Srubnaya Alakul MLBA 17.2
    NPL Chokhopani 2700BP 0.8


    Will be added in David's spreadsheet as a full Punjabi Gujjar 001 sample.


    Punjabi_Gujjar_Gujranwala_Chechi_scaled,0.0665959,-0.0026748,-0.1189065,0.0774231,-0.0760767,0.0487838,0.0026478,0.0052179,-0.0011002,-0.006472,-0.0035469,-0.0006275,-0.0001087,-0.0055256,0.0068965,0.0103097,-0.0071247,0.0010991,-0.0000459,-0.0141168,-0.0012852,-0.0073575,0.0004447,-0.0037791,-0.0002108

    Punjabi_Gujjar_Gujranwala_Chechi_unscaled,0.005851 ,-0.000263,-0.03153,0.02397,-0.02472,0.017492,0.001127,0.002261,-0.000538,-0.003551,-0.002184,-0.000419,-0.000073,-0.004015,0.005081,0.007776,-0.005464,0.000868,-0.000037,-0.011288,-0.00103,-0.00595,0.000361,-0.003136,-0.000176
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    Gujjar from Gujranwala, Punjab, Pakistan (Chechi clan)- both paternally and maternally same clan & same region; Y-DNA: L-M27 (L1a1), mt-DNA: U7

    Sample: Kaazi ► Gujjar Punjabi Pakistan scaled
    Fit: 1.51
    Results: IRN Shahr I Sokhta BA3 51
    UZB Dzharkutan1 BA 31
    RUS Srubnaya Alakul MLBA 17.2
    NPL Chokhopani 2700BP 0.8


    Will be added in David's spreadsheet as a full Punjabi Gujjar 001 sample.


    Punjabi_Gujjar_Gujranwala_Chechi_scaled,0.0665959,-0.0026748,-0.1189065,0.0774231,-0.0760767,0.0487838,0.0026478,0.0052179,-0.0011002,-0.006472,-0.0035469,-0.0006275,-0.0001087,-0.0055256,0.0068965,0.0103097,-0.0071247,0.0010991,-0.0000459,-0.0141168,-0.0012852,-0.0073575,0.0004447,-0.0037791,-0.0002108

    Punjabi_Gujjar_Gujranwala_Chechi_unscaled,0.005851 ,-0.000263,-0.03153,0.02397,-0.02472,0.017492,0.001127,0.002261,-0.000538,-0.003551,-0.002184,-0.000419,-0.000073,-0.004015,0.005081,0.007776,-0.005464,0.000868,-0.000037,-0.011288,-0.00103,-0.00595,0.000361,-0.003136,-0.000176
    sample: Gujjar Gujranwala Chechi scaled
    distance: 1.1555
    CG_IVCp: 56.5
    Dzharkutan1_BA: 26.5
    Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA: 14.5
    KAZ_Botai: 2.5

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    South-Indian,Iranian,NW-Indian,South-Caucasian,Munda,Pamirian,Meso-Amerind,Central-African,Indo-Chinese,East-Asian,North-Amerind,Kushitic,North-Iberian,East-Iberian,Tibeto-Burman,North-African,North-Caucasian,Paleo-Balkan,Turkic-Altai,Proto-Austronesian,Nilotic,East-Med,Omotic,Arabic,East-Euro,Andean,NE-Asian,Volgan,Mongolian,Siberian,North-Sea-Germanic,Celtic,West-African,West-Finnic,Uralic,Sahelian,East-African,Amuro-Manchurian,Scando-Germanic,South-African,Amazonian,Baltic,Malay,South-Chinese,Papuan,West-Med,Central-Med
    IVC:I11456,28.63,21.89,10.77,5.04,11.81,14.09,0,1.43,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.85,0,1.15,0,0,0,0,0,1.29,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.04,0,0
    IVC:I11459,28.67,15.91,16.22,10.57,13.48,5.24,0,0,0,0,0.07,0,0,0,0,0,7.79,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.53,0.53,0,0,0,0.01,0,0
    IVC:I11466,26.86,23.47,14.43,10.89,9.85,5.31,4.7,2.77,1.46,0.22,0.02,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
    IVC:I8726,21.91,21.14,14.72,8.58,2.51,12.85,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,16.51,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.78,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
    IVC:I8728,38.07,7.44,15.26,6.36,19.23,7.17,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.32,0,0,0,0,0,1.19,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.45,1.02,0,0,0,1.48,0,0
    Steppe:I0939,0,0,0,0,0,14.64,0,0,0,0,0,0,3.59,0,0,0,3.55,0,0,0,0,0,0.01,0,14.45,0,0,0,0,0,19.56,25.25,0,13.61,0,0,0,0,4.95,0,0.4,0,0,0,0,0,0
    Steppe:I0942,0,8.15,0,0,0,8.53,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,8.29,0,0,9.83,4.62,0,0,0,0,0,0,19.91,0,0,0,0,0,5.88,0,0,3.45,0.96,0,0,0,10.92,0,0,19.47,0,0,0,0,0
    Steppe:I0943,0,1.55,0,0,0,4.98,0,0,0,0,0,0,0.44,0,0,0,6.04,1.74,0,0,0,0,0,0,16.03,0.4,0,1.31,0,0,17.11,18.78,0,9.84,1.74,0,0,0,11.55,0.31,0,6.76,0,0,0,0,1.42
    Steppe:I0984,0,0,0.26,0.85,0,7.77,0,0,0,0,0,0,3.96,0,0,0,9.92,0,0,0.24,0,0,0,0,19.4,0,0,0,0,0,8.82,21.57,0,13.02,0,0,0,0,10.06,0,0,3.3,0,0,0.83,0,0
    Steppe:I0986,0,0,1.97,6.15,0,5.06,0.6,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,16.44,4.91,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,22.36,0,19.8,0,0,0,0,14.54,0,0,0,0,0,4.38,0,3.8
    
    Andaman.SG,15.87,0,0.49,0,31.11,0,0,0.74,5.49,0,0,2.46,0,0,5.11,0,0,0,0.37,0,1.39,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,3.48,2.25,0,1.46,2.46,0,0,1.69,0,16.54,0,8.76,0,0.34
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    Have fun with L-47 coordinates
    Last edited by Kakaji; 01-31-2023 at 01:22 PM.

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