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    Quote Originally Posted by bmoney View Post
    I'd say use the Ferghana Kashkarchi_BA R1a z93 sample as its a closer source, instead of Srubnaya and Sintashta MLBA
    Makes sense. I'd leave in Srubnaya and Sintashta at first but then try removing them completely and replacing them with Ferghana Kashkarchi_BA to see how the fits change.
    I4285 I4285 1873-1661 calBCE (3430±25 BP, PSUAMS-2536) BMAC Sappali_Tepe_BA Sappali Tepe Uzbekistan U7a3 L1a
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    Makes sense. I'd leave in Srubnaya and Sintashta at first but then try removing them completely and replacing them with Ferghana Kashkarchi_BA to see how the fits change.
    Good idea. I will let the current configuration finish and then replace populations altogether with others. If we can get the default penalty fit below or around 2% using 4 non modern populations, that sounds to be good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmoney View Post
    I'd say use the Ferghana Kashkarchi_BA R1a z93 sample as its a closer source, instead of Srubnaya and Sintashta MLBA
    He won't be as good a source for most SA / Indo Aryan groups , because of his extra Siberian admixture , strangely MLBA West/ Sintashta better captures Steppe. Though this type should model well with Pashtuns I would think ie East Iranic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    Good idea. I will let the current configuration finish and then replace populations altogether with others. If we can get the default penalty fit below or around 2% using 4 non modern populations, that sounds to be good enough.
    Could you model Jat , Kalash, Pashtun with Gonur Outlier (steppe) , SiS 3 , Sarazm
    and same groups with Gonur 2 , MLBA Steppe , Sarazm, SiS 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus View Post
    He won't be as good a source for most SA / Indo Aryan groups , because of his extra Siberian admixture , strangely MLBA West/ Sintashta better captures Steppe. Though this type should model well with Pashtuns I would think ie East Iranic.
    Narasimhan has an interactive Tableau report on various aDNA public.tableau.com/profile/vagheesh#!/vizhome/TheGenomicFormationofSouthandCentralAsia/Fig_1

    It looks like Ferghana steppe is close to Iron Age. Basically, they're at nightclub after 6am lol.

    The current configuration I have is focused on Bronze Age and prior. I can reconfigure for Iron Age and later pops so get scores using the latter data.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    Narasimhan has an interactive Tableau report on various aDNA public.tableau.com/profile/vagheesh#!/vizhome/TheGenomicFormationofSouthandCentralAsia/Fig_1

    It looks like Ferghana steppe is close to Iron Age. Basically, they're at nightclub after 6am lol.

    The current configuration I have is focused on Bronze Age and prior. I can reconfigure for Iron Age and later pops so get scores using the latter data.
    Iron age won't be that useful for most SA populations because by that time modern cline seems to be set in motion. Btw could you also model Butkara.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khanabadoshi View Post
    Do you have the rest of my khandan's coordinates and the Chitralis?
    Nope, just yours. Send me those and I will run them. I need to setup my old machines to run them in parallel so that there is no wait. My poor macbook will die if I keep running this here... it gets super hot due to 4 Rscript running at once for hours.

    Btw, this Narasimhan paper had aDNA that almost accounted for your entire DNA(assuming Global25 is remotely close lol). I could not believe it got to low 1.5% even with the penalty. No other South Asian so far has it that low. Jortita comes close, but that included Bonda tribals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    Nope, just yours. Send me those and I will run them. I need to setup my old machines to run them in parallel so that there is no wait. My poor macbook will die if I keep running this here... it gets super hot due to 4 Rscript running at once for hours.

    Btw, this Narasimhan paper had aDNA that almost accounted for your entire DNA(assuming Global25 is remotely close lol). I could not believe it got to low 1.5% even with the penalty. No other South Asian so far has it that low. Jortita comes close, but that included Bonda tribals.

    Thats why we count on u lol, doing all this is a very labored and tedious process.

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    Has anyone uploaded the full GED match ids for the paper?? Khana when you are free at some point can you do it or any other brave soul.

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