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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    My G25 FTDNA converted into HAP:

    37.91816 S-Indian
    34.53328 Baloch
    9.42612 Caucasian
    9.24512 NE-Euro
    0.5524 SE-Asian
    1.06238 Siberian
    0.40668 NE-Asian
    0.6531 Papuan
    1.56976 American
    1.11896 Beringian
    2.2047 Mediterranean
    1.13912 SW-Asian
    0.11316 San
    0.02418 E-African
    0.00798 Pygmy
    0.0248 W-African

    Very close...
    Can you explain how you did this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    Average of Ror Avg + Jatt_Pathak converted into HarappaWorld

    24.81002 S-Indian
    35.0642 Baloch
    11.26026 Caucasian
    19.7945 NE-Euro
    0.2061 SE-Asian
    1.7138 Siberian
    0.3886 NE-Asian
    0.53316 Papuan
    1.19006 American
    1.22718 Beringian
    2.9126 Mediterranean
    0.66646 SW-Asian
    0.21336 San
    0.0143 E-African
    0.00536 Pygmy
    0 W-African

    Does anyone have the actual Ror raw data on Gedmatch to compare?
    Kit Number: WD1007289
    Name: Ror 49

    Kit Number: BD9253768
    Name: Ror 29

    Kit Number: CF2955601
    Name: Ror_10

    Kit Number: KJ6308646
    Name: Ror_11

    Kit Number: GV1140561
    Name: Ror_12

    Kit Number: TY3301094
    Name: Ror_17

    Kit Number: WQ5682959
    Name: Ror_20

    Kit Number: SD3569197
    Name: Ror_25

    Kit Number: MF1931563
    Name: Ror_44

    Kit Number: EG2459463
    Name: Ror_37

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    I wish we would get higher resolution modeling for the region. At this point in time it is near impossible to separate people if they have identical levels of steppe, aasi, and gedrosian ancestry even if they belong to two separate corners of the subcontinent.

    I think Harappaworld converted to a G25 system may be a step forward in that case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    Average of Ror Avg + Jatt_Pathak converted into HarappaWorld

    24.81002 S-Indian
    35.0642 Baloch
    11.26026 Caucasian
    19.7945 NE-Euro
    0.2061 SE-Asian
    1.7138 Siberian
    0.3886 NE-Asian
    0.53316 Papuan
    1.19006 American
    1.22718 Beringian
    2.9126 Mediterranean
    0.66646 SW-Asian
    0.21336 San
    0.0143 E-African
    0.00536 Pygmy
    0 W-African

    Does anyone have the actual Ror raw data on Gedmatch to compare?
    Average of those Ror Gedmatch kits:

    25.73% S-Indian
    35.80% Baloch
    10.92% Caucasian
    19.55% NE-Euro
    0.00% SE-Asian
    1.57% Siberian
    0.00% NE-Asian
    0.38% Papuan
    1.43% American
    0.71% Beringian
    3.42% Mediterranean
    0.40% SW-Asian
    0.10% San
    0.00% E-African
    0.00% Pygmy
    0.00% W-African

    Not bad, very close to the G25->HAP conversion.

    I put the average in my sorted Harappa sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...GMo/edit#gid=6

    Compare with some of the Haryana Jats there.
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494*) (FTDNA Kit 311047) (YFull: YF68408), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29*) (FTDNA Kit 329181) (YFull: YF65256))

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    Quote Originally Posted by agent_lime View Post
    Can you explain how you did this?
    Use the population list I posted above in nMonte with your G25 coordinates to get the best possible fit, then combine those proportions of those populations' HarappaWorld results.

    I.e,

    nMonte G25:

    25% Gujar
    75% Paniya

    So then you do:

    .25*GUJAR-HAP-RESULTS+.75*PANIYA-HAP-RESULTS

    And vice-versa (use nMonte in R or Vahaduo, not the Oracles, to get the best possible fit with the available populations)
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494*) (FTDNA Kit 311047) (YFull: YF68408), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29*) (FTDNA Kit 329181) (YFull: YF65256))

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    Some of those Ror kits have a bunch of Muslim matches. Pakistan Punjab area and admixed North India types, not what I expected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    Some of those Ror kits have a bunch of Muslim matches. Pakistan Punjab area and admixed North India types, not what I expected.
    Keep in mind there were Muslim Haryana Jats aka Muley Jats, who did migrate to Pakistan as well as a good bunch stayed in West UP and haryana. Since Rors and Jats seem sister population, it won't be a surprise if they match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    Use the population list I posted above in nMonte with your G25 coordinates to get the best possible fit, then combine those proportions of those populations' HarappaWorld results.

    I.e,

    nMonte G25:

    25% Gujar
    75% Paniya

    So then you do:

    .25*GUJAR-HAP-RESULTS+.75*PANIYA-HAP-RESULTS

    And vice-versa (use nMonte in R or Vahaduo, not the Oracles, to get the best possible fit with the available populations)
    This was way more time consuming than I thought. Maybe I'll automate it.
    S-Indian Baloch Caucasian NE-Euro SE-Asian Siberian NE-Asian Papuan American Beringian Mediterranean SW-Asian San E-African Pygmy W-African
    agentlime 27.92456 40.85382 14.20902 7.75088 0.37186 1.41922 0.17504 0.63666 0.99738 1.40716 1.25456 1.94556 0.19704 0.40222 0.03324 0.42078

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     FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
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     28.01%  S-Indian            
     38.08%  Baloch              
     16.48%  Caucasian           
     10.83%  NE-Euro             
      0.00%  SE-Asian            
      0.68%  Siberian            
      0.09%  NE-Asian            
      1.18%  Papuan              
      1.42%  American            
      0.60%  Beringian           
      0.06%  Mediterranean       
      2.07%  SW-Asian            
      0.01%  San                 
      0.04%  E-African           
      0.00%  Pygmy               
      0.45%  W-African           
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    Keep in mind there were Muslim Haryana Jats aka Muley Jats, who did migrate to Pakistan as well as a good bunch stayed in West UP and haryana. Since Rors and Jats seem sister population, it won't be a surprise if they match.
    What was the pre partition muslim population of the state

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    Quote Originally Posted by Censored View Post
    What was the pre partition muslim population of the state
    Haryana was formed in 1966 when the Punjabi and the Haryanvi/Hindi movement caused the Haryanvi speaking districts to be divided. There is no way to know this number in a reliable manner.

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