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    I-M223 I-Y17506

    Hi, I tested my great uncle's YDNA to learn more about his father who was from Italy and the result was: I-M223 I-Y17506 what exactly does this mean? Where are the origins of it in the modern day world?

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    Here is I-Y17506 on YFull's tree.

    I-Y17506 (aka I-Y17377) is downstream of I-L1425, which according to Eupedia:

    L1425 is found in Scandinavia, Germany, the Low Countries, England, France, Switzerland and Italy.
    It probably made its way to Italy through the various migrations of Celtic, Germanic and other groups of people later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    Here is I-Y17506 on YFull's tree.

    I-Y17506 (aka I-Y17377) is downstream of I-L1425, which according to Eupedia:



    It probably made its way to Italy through the various migrations of Celtic, Germanic and other groups of people later on.
    OK thanks, would IM-223 have also supposedly been Norman? I did research the family last name, contacting an academic who does research and history of Italian last names, and it is Norman or originates in Normandy.

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    I don't see why it couldn't be Norman. The Normans were a mixture of Franks, Gallo-Romans and people from the Anglo-Scandinavian sphere. It could also have come to Italy with Lombards, Ostrogoths or just about any other migrating group.

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    Where in Italy was he from?

    And it's somehow similar to what happens with my I-Z2058. My paternal lineage has (probably) Northern Portuguese origins, but the I-Z2058/I-Z2059 (and downstream; I'm still narrowing it down) possibly came to Portugal with the Suebi, as there are only 3 other people in this branch so far in the I-M223 Project (FTDNA): 2 of them are from Germany, and the other one has Northern Portuguese roots.
    Last edited by galon07; 05-16-2018 at 07:24 PM.
    Y-DNA: I2a2 > I2a2a (M223) > Y4450 > CTS616 > Y3721 > Y3670 > L1229 > Z2069 > Z2059 > FT14643 > FT20170 - Sabino Mathozo, b. abt 1880 (Paranagua, Brazil)
    Y-DNA (mother's paternal): R-M269 > U152 > Z36 > BY1328 > A7992 - Giacomo Gallahon, b. 1766 (Northern Italy, Treviso, Lombardy)

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