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    The genetic prehistory of the Greater Caucasus[preprint Harvard/Jena]

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    The genetic prehistory of the Greater Caucasus

    Chuan-Chao Wang, Sabine Reinhold Reinhold, Alexey Kalmykov, Antje Wissgott, Guido Brandt, Choongwon Jeong, Olivia Cheronet, Matthew Ferry, Eadaoin Harney, Denise Keating, Swapan Mallick, Nadin Rohland, Kristin Stewardson, Anatoly R. Kantorovich, Vladimir E. Maslov, Vladimira G. Petrenko, Vladimir R. Erlikh, Biaslan C. Atabiev, Rabadan G. Magomedov, Philipp L. Kohl, Kurt W. Alt, Sandra L. Pichler, Claudia Gerling, Harald Meller, Benik Vardanyan, Larisa Yeganyan, Alexey D. Rezepkin, Dirk Mariaschk, Natalia Y. Berezina, Julia Gresky, Katharina Fuchs, Corina Knipper, Stephan Schiffels, Elena Balanovska, Oleg Balanovsky, Iain Mathieson, Thomas Higham, Yakov B. Berezin, Alexandra P. Buzhilova, Viktor Trifonov, Ron Pinhasi, Andrej B. Belinskiy, David Reich, Svend Hansen, Johannes Krause, Wolfgang Haak

    doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/322347

    Abstract

    Archaeogenetic studies have described the formation of Eurasian 'steppe ancestry' as a mixture of Eastern and Caucasus hunter-gatherers. However, it remains unclear when and where this ancestry arose and whether it was related to a horizon of cultural innovations in the 4th millennium BCE that subsequently facilitated the advance of pastoral societies likely linked to the dispersal of Indo-European languages. To address this, we generated genome-wide SNP data from 45 prehistoric individuals along a 3000-year temporal transect in the North Caucasus. We observe a genetic separation between the groups of the Caucasus and those of the adjacent steppe. The Caucasus groups are genetically similar to contemporaneous populations south of it, suggesting that - unlike today - the Caucasus acted as a bridge rather than an insurmountable barrier to human movement. The steppe groups from Yamnaya and subsequent pastoralist cultures show evidence for previously undetected Anatolian farmer-related ancestry from different contact zones, while Steppe Maykop individuals harbour additional Upper Palaeolithic Siberian and Native American related ancestry.

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    O boy.

    Maykop modeled as 63% Steppe, 30% AG3, and 7% Kennewick(!). R1/R1b1 + Q1a2(!). However, previous cultures on the Northern flank of the Caucasus such as Darkveti-Meshoko Eneolithic culture are Anatlian + CHG.

    O wow...
    Last edited by epoch; 05-16-2018 at 09:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by epoch View Post
    That's the kind of crazy I like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by epoch View Post
    O boy.

    Maykop modeled as 63% Steppe, 30% AG3, and 7% Kennewick(!). R1/R1b1 + Q1a2(!). However, previous cultures on the Northern flank of the Caucasus such as Darkveti-Meshoko Eneolithic culture are Anatlian + CHG.

    O wow...
    I think Bolshemysskaya P297 sample in Altai, predating afanasievo, would be connected to steppe Maykop R1b, sintashta z2103 with dominant west siberia HG, Botai M73 (botai samples are extremely rare).

    Maybe Round2 would be Greek bronze and China bronze, being buried in supine position.
    The practice of digging shaft tombs was a widespread phenomenon with prominent examples found in Mycenaean Greece; in Bronze Age China; and in Mesoamerican Western Mexico.[2]
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....ily-tree/page2 (#13)

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    Kura-Aaraxes ancestry (Anatolia+Iran) takes over after 3100. So that basically is the end of the south of the Caucasus Urheimat hypothesis.

    EDIT: Maybe the details will allow for a window. Reading as we speak :-)

    EDIT2: Well, there are are outliers with clear Caucasian influx buried in Maykop barrows. There is your window of opportunity, opposers.
    Last edited by epoch; 05-16-2018 at 09:35 PM.

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    There was a migration of Leyla-Tepe people into Maykop between 'early' Maykop and 'late' Maykop!

    The steppes model has been DESTROYED one more time.



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    Despite the authors' strange claim that this "opens up the possibility of a homeland of PIE south of the Caucasus" (which is indefensible from a linguistic standpoint), this study does enable us to put aside all the nonsense about Iran_N admixture in Yamnaya and does a huge disfavour to all the models placing the PIE homeland anywhere south of the Caucasus (just look at the K-A samples). This also has some very serious implications for the spread of the Iran_Chl-type admixture to SW Asia which some have also associated with Kura-Araxes.
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