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    Full Sibling Results

    My sisterís results came back today and I thought it was pretty interesting to see how we inherited the same DNA. Paper trails put our father at 100% Italian (Campania, Lazio and Marche) and our mother at 25% English (Lancashire and Yorkshire) and 75% French (via Canada).

    I should have my parentsí results sometime this week.

    Me:
    Europe South 47%
    Europe West 29%
    Caucasus 12%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 5%
    Great Britain 2%
    Scandinavia 2%
    Iberian Peninsula 2%
    Middle East 1%

    Sister:
    Europe South 36%
    Caucasus 17%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 16%
    Europe West 11%
    Scandinavia 7%
    Europe East 5%
    Iberian Peninsula 5%
    European Jewish 1%
    Great Britain <1%
    Middle East <1%

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    The high Caucasus number on both seems like the weirdest thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angriff View Post
    The high Caucasus number on both seems like the weirdest thing.
    It’s been pretty consistent across other sites for my results, granted that’s using my raw DNA from Ancestry.

    FTDNA: 28% Asia Minor
    My Heritage: 11% West Asia
    Gencove: 43% Eastern Mediterranean
    GenePlaza: 37.6% Eastern Mediterranean and 6.8% Central Asian

    My uncle who is my father’s half brother (same father) also has 10% Caucasus on Ancestry.

    I’m waiting for my LivingDNA kit so I’m curious how that will compare since it’s so European oriented.
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    Very different. Post you guys' GEDmatch results (Eurogenes, Dodecad, MDLP, etc.). I'm curious how similar you would be.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 28.4
    2 West_Med 21.2
    3 East_Med 18.71
    4 Baltic 13.17
    5 West_Asian 13.06
    6 Red_Sea 2.94
    7 Amerindian 2.01
    8 Oceanian 0.51

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tuscan 7.75
    2 North_Italian 7.78
    3 Greek_Thessaly 10.53
    4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.59
    5 Romanian 11.56
    6 Bulgarian 11.9
    7 West_Sicilian 12.39
    8 Central_Greek 14.12
    9 Portuguese 14.23
    10 Serbian 14.33
    11 Spanish_Extremadura 14.33
    12 East_Sicilian 15.16
    13 Spanish_Galicia 15.35
    14 Spanish_Murcia 15.56
    15 Spanish_Andalucia 15.6
    16 Spanish_Cataluna 15.8
    17 Spanish_Valencia 16.14
    18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.3
    19 French 16.52
    20 South_Italian 16.8

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 83.5% North_Italian + 16.5% Tabassaran @ 2.55
    2 83.7% North_Italian + 16.3% Lezgin @ 2.59
    3 83.4% North_Italian + 16.6% Chechen @ 2.64
    4 82.4% North_Italian + 17.6% Kumyk @ 3.05
    5 84% North_Italian + 16% Adygei @ 3.17
    6 83.5% North_Italian + 16.5% Kabardin @ 3.21
    7 84.6% North_Italian + 15.4% North_Ossetian @ 3.22
    8 66.6% Central_Greek + 33.4% Southwest_English @ 3.41
    9 83.8% North_Italian + 16.2% Balkar @ 3.46
    10 54.1% Central_Greek + 45.9% French @ 3.55
    11 84.7% North_Italian + 15.3% Ossetian @ 3.62
    12 63.7% South_Italian + 36.3% Irish @ 3.64
    13 67.8% Central_Greek + 32.2% Irish @ 3.67
    14 68.2% Central_Greek + 31.8% West_Scottish @ 3.72
    15 55.3% South_Italian + 44.7% South_Dutch @ 3.76
    16 53.8% South_Italian + 46.2% West_German @ 3.79
    17 63.2% South_Italian + 36.8% Orcadian @ 3.84
    18 62.5% South_Italian + 37.5% Southwest_English @ 3.87
    19 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Georgian @ 3.89
    20 59.8% Central_Greek + 40.2% South_Dutch @ 3.89



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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 27.94
    2 West_Med 20.5
    3 East_Med 18.23
    4 West_Asian 15.25
    5 Baltic 13.7
    6 Red_Sea 1.63
    7 Amerindian 1.31
    8 Oceanian 1.22
    9 South_Asian 0.23

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tuscan 9.46
    2 North_Italian 9.68
    3 Greek_Thessaly 10.81
    4 Italian_Abruzzo 10.92
    5 Romanian 11.21
    6 Bulgarian 11.47
    7 West_Sicilian 13.32
    8 Serbian 14.11
    9 Central_Greek 14.24
    10 East_Sicilian 15.56
    11 Portuguese 15.89
    12 Spanish_Extremadura 16.07
    13 Spanish_Galicia 16.99
    14 Spanish_Andalucia 17.09
    15 Spanish_Cataluna 17.14
    16 South_Italian 17.18
    17 Spanish_Murcia 17.24
    18 French 17.38
    19 Spanish_Valencia 17.69
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 17.89

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 78.9% North_Italian + 21.1% Tabassaran @ 2.39
    2 79.2% North_Italian + 20.8% Lezgin @ 2.46
    3 78.7% North_Italian + 21.3% Chechen @ 2.49
    4 80.3% North_Italian + 19.7% North_Ossetian @ 3.43
    5 79.6% North_Italian + 20.4% Adygei @ 3.44
    6 79% North_Italian + 21% Kabardin @ 3.46
    7 77.8% North_Italian + 22.2% Kumyk @ 3.46
    8 79.3% North_Italian + 20.7% Balkar @ 3.76
    9 64.7% Spanish_Valencia + 35.3% Kumyk @ 3.92
    10 80.5% North_Italian + 19.5% Ossetian @ 4
    11 68% Central_Greek + 32% Irish @ 4.27
    12 67.2% Spanish_Valencia + 32.8% Adygei @ 4.34
    13 66.9% Central_Greek + 33.1% Southwest_English @ 4.38
    14 67.4% Portuguese + 32.6% Kumyk @ 4.4
    15 68.4% Central_Greek + 31.6% West_Scottish @ 4.44
    16 69.8% Portuguese + 30.2% Adygei @ 4.52
    17 82.3% North_Italian + 17.7% Georgian @ 4.53
    18 68% French + 32% Armenian @ 4.57
    19 67.6% Central_Greek + 32.4% Orcadian @ 4.57
    20 65.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 34.4% Kumyk @ 4.62

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 33.79
    2 Mediterranean 30.86
    3 West_Asian 17.03
    4 Southwest_Asian 8.52
    5 East_European 7.15
    6 South_Asian 2.11
    7 Northwest_African 0.45
    8 Northeast_Asian 0.08

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tuscan (Xing) 7.39
    2 Tuscan (Henn) 7.45
    3 TSI (HapMap) 7.87
    4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 13.55
    5 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.29
    6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 14.88
    7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 16.18
    8 Tuscan (HGDP) 17.74
    9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 18.22
    10 Slovenian (Xing) 18.51
    11 Romanians_14 (Behar) 18.88
    12 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.17
    13 French (HGDP) 19.9
    14 French (Dodecad) 20.25
    15 Portuguese (Dodecad) 20.27
    16 Hungarians (Behar) 21.04
    17 Balkans (Dodecad) 21.71
    18 CEU (HapMap) 21.97
    19 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.08
    20 IBS (1000Genomes) 22.15

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.6% N._European (Xing) + 38.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.15
    2 57.7% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 42.3% CEU (HapMap) @ 2.35
    3 60.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 39.7% Orkney (1000 Genomes) @ 2.39
    4 59.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 40.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.41
    5 59.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 40.4% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 2.52
    6 59.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 40.2% CEU (HapMap) @ 2.55
    7 58.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 41.9% N._European (Xing) @ 2.57
    8 62.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 37.7% Orkney (1000 Genomes) @ 2.6
    9 62% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 38% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.6
    10 59.5% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 40.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.79
    11 61.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 38.3% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 2.84
    12 56.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 43.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.85
    13 60.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 39.7% N._European (Xing) @ 2.91
    14 61.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 38.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.92
    15 62% CEU (HapMap) + 38% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.97
    16 60.2% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 39.8% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3
    17 59.8% Orcadian (HGDP) + 40.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3
    18 61.7% French (Dodecad) + 38.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.12
    19 55.1% N._European (Xing) + 44.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.16
    20 59.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 40.5% German (Dodecad) @ 3.27


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 35.63
    2 Mediterranean 30.31
    3 West_Asian 17.91
    4 East_European 7.28
    5 Southwest_Asian 6.73
    6 South_Asian 2.02
    7 Palaeo_African 0.12

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Tuscan (Xing) 8.6
    2 TSI (HapMap) 8.77
    3 Tuscan (Henn) 8.77
    4 N_Italian (Dodecad) 14.58
    5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.68
    6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.56
    7 Slovenian (Xing) 17.65
    8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.86
    9 French (HGDP) 18.59
    10 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.65
    11 French (Dodecad) 19.09
    12 Romanians_14 (Behar) 19.45
    13 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.51
    14 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.54
    15 CEU (HapMap) 20.36
    16 Portuguese (Dodecad) 20.46
    17 Hungarians (Behar) 20.5
    18 N._European (Xing) 20.76
    19 Argyll (1000 Genomes) 22.01
    20 Balkans (Dodecad) 22.04

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 64.2% N._European (Xing) + 35.8% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.72
    2 62.9% Argyll (1000 Genomes) + 37.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.94
    3 62.1% Orkney (1000 Genomes) + 37.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.98
    4 62.5% Orcadian (HGDP) + 37.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.2
    5 64.7% CEU (HapMap) + 35.3% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.46
    6 55.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 44.7% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 2.51
    7 55.7% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 44.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.55
    8 56.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 43.9% Orkney (1000 Genomes) @ 2.57
    9 53.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 46.7% CEU (HapMap) @ 2.65
    10 65.6% French (Dodecad) + 34.4% Kurd (Xing) @ 2.74
    11 57.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 42.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.75
    12 58.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 41.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.76
    13 58% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 42% Orkney (1000 Genomes) @ 2.79
    14 55.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 44.7% CEU (HapMap) @ 2.84
    15 57.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 42.8% Argyll (1000 Genomes) @ 2.86
    16 55.6% S_Italian (Dodecad) + 44.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.95
    17 53.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 46.2% N._European (Xing) @ 2.98
    18 65.4% CEU (HapMap) + 34.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.12
    19 63.9% French (Dodecad) + 36.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 3.14
    20 51.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 48.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.21

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    Amerindian 1.09
    Arabian 4.86
    Armenian -
    Basque 3.22
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 4.80
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 5.58
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 4.95
    East_Med 6.85
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian 0.56
    French 1.09
    Iberian 13.64
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 18.36
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 2.03
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 7.25
    North_Caucasian 5.67
    North_Sea 9.82
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 1.26
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 3.44
    West_Med 5.52

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    Population
    Amerindian 0.24
    Arabian 0.30
    Armenian 2.02
    Basque 1.43
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 3.98
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 8.92
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 4.32
    East_Med 3.59
    Eastern_Euro 0.52
    Fennoscandian 1.72
    French 2.59
    Iberian 15.57
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 13.87
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 8.11
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 7.78
    North_Caucasian 9.58
    North_Sea 7.55
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 1.55
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 1.67
    West_Med 4.67

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Very different. Post you guys' GEDmatch results (Eurogenes, Dodecad, MDLP, etc.). I'm curious how similar you would be.
    I posted eurogenes k13, eurogenes k36, and dodecad V3. Are there any others you’d like to see?
    They seem pretty similar to me when looking at GEDmatch, but I’m not as well versed as some.

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    Maybe MDLP k23b?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angriff View Post
    Maybe MDLP k23b?
    Hereís our oracle results.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 28.3
    2 European_Early_Farmers 27.71
    3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 22.07
    4 South_Central_Asian 9.05
    5 Near_East 6.08
    6 North_African 2.46
    7 Ancestral_Altaic 2.3
    8 Arctic 0.5
    9 Melano_Polynesian 0.47
    10 Austronesian 0.4
    11 Amerindian 0.33
    12 South_Indian 0.31
    13 Archaic_Human 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_North ( ) 4.75
    2 German-Volga ( ) 8.71
    3 South_German ( ) 9.42
    4 Austrian ( ) 10.44
    5 Italian_Tuscan ( ) 10.9
    6 Italian_Piedmont ( ) 11.09
    7 Italian_Bergamo ( ) 12.34
    8 Dutch ( ) 12.68
    9 Frisian ( ) 12.68
    10 Sicilian_West ( ) 12.77
    11 Slovenian ( ) 12.85
    12 Hungarian ( ) 12.93
    13 Belgian ( ) 13.01
    14 North_German ( ) 13.03
    15 Serb_Serbia ( ) 13.06
    16 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 13.23
    17 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 13.59
    18 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 13.65
    19 Irish ( ) 14.05
    20 Greek_Northwest ( ) 14.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 70% French ( ) + 30% Jew_Tat ( ) @ 1.3
    2 66.2% French ( ) + 33.8% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 1.33
    3 66.9% French ( ) + 33.1% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 1.37
    4 72.6% French ( ) + 27.4% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 1.69
    5 59.1% Welsh ( ) + 40.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 1.98
    6 64.4% French ( ) + 35.6% Turk_Kayseri ( ) @ 2.02
    7 54% Orcadian ( ) + 46% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.04
    8 68.8% French ( ) + 31.2% Iranian_Jew ( ) @ 2.06
    9 55.5% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 44.5% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.08
    10 68.7% French ( ) + 31.3% Iraqi_Jew ( ) @ 2.12
    11 73% French ( ) + 27% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 2.16
    12 65.5% French ( ) + 34.5% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 2.17
    13 59.2% CEU ( ) + 40.8% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.3
    14 68.3% French ( ) + 31.7% Kurd_Jew ( ) @ 2.34
    15 68% French ( ) + 32% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 2.36
    16 62.3% French ( ) + 37.7% Turk_Adana ( ) @ 2.37
    17 72.6% French ( ) + 27.4% Armenian ( ) @ 2.46
    18 67.7% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) + 32.3% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 2.49
    19 64% French ( ) + 36% Turk ( ) @ 2.51
    20 57.1% Welsh ( ) + 42.9% Cretan ( ) @ 2.54


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Caucasian 29.07
    2 European_Early_Farmers 28
    3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 21.53
    4 South_Central_Asian 8.8
    5 Near_East 5.57
    6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.95
    7 North_African 1.16
    8 Amerindian 1.08
    9 Australoid 1.07
    10 Archaic_Human 0.2
    11 South_Indian 0.19
    12 Austronesian 0.16
    13 Tungus-Altaic 0.11
    14 Melano_Polynesian 0.1

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Italian_North ( ) 5.05
    2 German-Volga ( ) 9.5
    3 Italian_Tuscan ( ) 10
    4 South_German ( ) 10.3
    5 Italian_Piedmont ( ) 10.36
    6 Austrian ( ) 10.93
    7 Italian_Bergamo ( ) 12.17
    8 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 12.29
    9 Serb_Serbia ( ) 12.45
    10 Sicilian_West ( ) 12.46
    11 Slovenian ( ) 12.99
    12 Hungarian ( ) 13.1
    13 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 13.33
    14 Frisian ( ) 13.36
    15 Dutch ( ) 13.57
    16 Greek_Northwest ( ) 13.57
    17 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 13.71
    18 Belgian ( ) 13.82
    19 North_German ( ) 13.99
    20 Montenegrian ( ) 14.18

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 71.8% French ( ) + 28.2% Armenian_Yerevan ( ) @ 1.5
    2 71.5% French ( ) + 28.5% Assyrian_Arzni ( ) @ 1.74
    3 71.3% French ( ) + 28.7% Armenian ( ) @ 1.74
    4 57% Welsh ( ) + 43% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 1.91
    5 58.5% English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) + 41.5% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.13
    6 56.5% British ( ) + 43.5% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.13
    7 69% French ( ) + 31% Jew_Tat ( ) @ 2.16
    8 52% Orcadian ( ) + 48% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.23
    9 57% CEU ( ) + 43% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.28
    10 63% French ( ) + 37% Turk_Kayseri ( ) @ 2.32
    11 53.4% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 46.6% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.39
    12 65.1% French ( ) + 34.9% Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) @ 2.43
    13 60.1% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 39.9% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.56
    14 65.8% French ( ) + 34.2% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 2.63
    15 75.5% French ( ) + 24.5% Kakheti ( ) @ 2.69
    16 63.4% Irish ( ) + 36.6% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 2.74
    17 61.8% French ( ) + 38.2% Azov_Greek ( ) @ 2.81
    18 80.3% Italian_Piedmont ( ) + 19.7% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) @ 2.86
    19 56.1% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 43.9% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 2.87
    20 62.6% French ( ) + 37.4% Turk ( ) @ 2.89

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