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    Quote Originally Posted by euromutt View Post
    I posted eurogenes k13, eurogenes k36, and dodecad V3. Are there any others you’d like to see?
    They seem pretty similar to me when looking at GEDmatch, but I’m not as well versed as some.
    Thanks. Yes, indeed quite similar. You can also try MDLP World and puntDNAL K15.
    Also, this thing is pretty good:
    http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Thanks. Yes, indeed quite similar. You can also try MDLP World and puntDNAL K15.
    Also, this thing is pretty good:
    http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm
    Ahh I love Tolan’s calculator. Mine is the first image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Thanks. Yes, indeed quite similar. You can also try MDLP World and puntDNAL K15.
    Also, this thing is pretty good:
    http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm
    Here’s our puntDNAL k15 Oracle

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Mediterranean 35.98
    2 NE_European 34.69
    3 Caucasian 19.49
    4 SW_Asian 7.19
    5 Amerindian 1.28
    6 S_African 0.69
    7 W_African 0.34
    8 Oceanian 0.28
    9 Wht_Nile_River 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 4.29
    2 Albanian 4.85
    3 Montenegrin 5.22
    4 Italian 5.47
    5 Tuscan 6.23
    6 Bulgarian 6.38
    7 Greek_Central 6.51
    8 Romanian 6.94
    9 Macedonian 8.14
    10 Bosnian 10.68
    11 Portuguese 14
    12 Brazilian 14.03
    13 Serbian 14.19
    14 Ashkenazy_Jew 14.26
    15 Spaniard 14.31
    16 Sicilian 15.48
    17 French 16.66
    18 Sephardic_Jew 18.28
    19 South_German 19.16
    20 Croatian 19.64

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 64.1% Tuscan + 35.9% Bosnian @ 2.11
    2 54.9% Scottish + 45.1% Cypriot @ 2.11
    3 56.7% English + 43.3% Cypriot @ 2.17
    4 70.7% Albanian + 29.3% Bosnian @ 2.18
    5 82.1% Romanian + 17.9% Cypriot @ 2.21
    6 60.4% Utahn_White + 39.6% Cypriot @ 2.27
    7 82.2% Greek_Thessaly + 17.8% French @ 2.4
    8 56.6% Montenegrin + 43.4% Greek_Central @ 2.4
    9 64.7% Greek_Thessaly + 35.3% Romanian @ 2.41
    10 61.3% South_German + 38.7% Cypriot @ 2.42
    11 62.5% Greek_Thessaly + 37.5% Bulgarian @ 2.43
    12 56.2% Orcadian + 43.8% Cypriot @ 2.43
    13 51.9% Greek_Central + 48.1% Romanian @ 2.45
    14 56.7% Greek_Thessaly + 43.3% Montenegrin @ 2.45
    15 57.6% Tuscan + 42.4% Macedonian @ 2.45
    16 50.6% Bulgarian + 49.4% Greek_Central @ 2.47
    17 83.7% Bulgarian + 16.3% Cypriot @ 2.48
    18 73.2% Greek_Central + 26.8% French @ 2.48
    19 77.3% Tuscan + 22.7% Croatian @ 2.49
    20 65.1% Albanian + 34.9% Macedonian @ 2.49


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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Mediterranean 35.97
    2 NE_European 35.56
    3 Caucasian 19.81
    4 SW_Asian 6.05
    5 Amerindian 0.87
    6 Oceanian 0.87
    7 S_Indian 0.51
    8 S_African 0.3
    9 Horn_Of_Africa 0.08

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Greek_Thessaly 4.64
    2 Montenegrin 4.75
    3 Italian 5.05
    4 Albanian 5.48
    5 Bulgarian 5.62
    6 Romanian 6.17
    7 Tuscan 6.72
    8 Greek_Central 6.9
    9 Macedonian 7.36
    10 Bosnian 10.01
    11 Serbian 13.36
    12 Portuguese 13.77
    13 Spaniard 14.11
    14 Brazilian 14.6
    15 Ashkenazy_Jew 15.13
    16 French 15.87
    17 Sicilian 16.26
    18 South_German 18.34
    19 Croatian 18.89
    20 Sephardic_Jew 19.06

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 70.2% Greek_Central + 29.8% French @ 1.61
    2 78.7% Greek_Thessaly + 21.3% French @ 1.8
    3 60.3% Tuscan + 39.7% Bosnian @ 1.8
    4 53% Romanian + 47% Greek_Central @ 1.85
    5 55.6% Bulgarian + 44.4% Greek_Central @ 1.92
    6 58.2% Greek_Thessaly + 41.8% Romanian @ 1.94
    7 56.3% Scottish + 43.7% Cypriot @ 1.99
    8 86.8% Romanian + 13.2% Turk_Trabzon @ 1.99
    9 67.3% Tuscan + 32.7% Serbian @ 2
    10 55.7% Greek_Thessaly + 44.3% Bulgarian @ 2
    11 52.4% Tuscan + 47.6% Macedonian @ 2.01
    12 74.5% Tuscan + 25.5% Croatian @ 2.03
    13 62% Utahn_White + 38% Cypriot @ 2.03
    14 81.4% Greek_Thessaly + 18.6% South_German @ 2.03
    15 73.5% Greek_Central + 26.5% South_German @ 2.04
    16 82% Greek_Thessaly + 18% Utahn_White @ 2.04
    17 74.3% Greek_Central + 25.7% Utahn_White @ 2.08
    18 84.2% Romanian + 15.8% Cypriot @ 2.1
    19 58.2% English + 41.8% Cypriot @ 2.13
    20 85.3% Greek_Thessaly + 14.7% Scottish @ 2.13

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    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 41.76
    2 North_and_East_European 23.96
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 18.3
    4 Middle_East 13.19
    5 Indian 1.42
    6 Arctic_Amerind 0.62
    7 Paleo_African 0.42
    8 Mesoamerican 0.33

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Gagauz 2.53
    2 Bulgarian 5.65
    3 Greek_North 7.44
    4 Romania 7.77
    5 Macedonian 7.91
    6 Greek_South 7.99
    7 Ashkenazim_V 8.05
    8 Montenegrin 9.56
    9 Greek_Center 11.05
    10 Italian-North 11.21
    11 Serbian 11.36
    12 Italian_North 11.83
    13 Italian-Center 12.42
    14 Greek_East 12.47
    15 Swiss 12.51
    16 Provancal 12.69
    17 Jew_Romania 12.93
    18 Bosnian 14.4
    19 Italian-South 15.14
    20 Corsican 15.77

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 71.3% German-South + 28.7% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 0.89
    2 87.6% Bulgarian + 12.4% Kurd @ 0.98
    3 95.5% Gagauz + 4.5% Parsi @ 1.13
    4 71.7% German-South + 28.3% Jew_Tat @ 1.16
    5 94.9% Gagauz + 5.1% Iranian @ 1.22
    6 94.7% Gagauz + 5.3% Kurd @ 1.24
    7 94.4% Gagauz + 5.6% Azeri @ 1.28
    8 96.2% Gagauz + 3.8% Brahui @ 1.29
    9 93.1% Gagauz + 6.9% Turk @ 1.3
    10 88.3% Bulgarian + 11.7% Iranian @ 1.3
    11 96.1% Gagauz + 3.9% Makrani @ 1.3
    12 80.7% Montenegrin + 19.3% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.31
    13 72.3% German-South + 27.7% Jew_Iraqi @ 1.32
    14 86.8% Bulgarian + 13.2% Armenian @ 1.32
    15 81.1% Montenegrin + 18.9% Jew_Tat @ 1.32
    16 87% Bulgarian + 13% Azeri @ 1.33
    17 96.2% Gagauz + 3.8% Balochi @ 1.33
    18 94.4% Gagauz + 5.6% Armenian @ 1.34
    19 89.3% Gagauz + 10.7% Greek_Azov @ 1.34
    20 80.7% Montenegrin + 19.3% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.35


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    # Population Percent
    1 South_and_West_European 42.16
    2 North_and_East_European 24.38
    3 Caucaus_Parsia 18.58
    4 Middle_East 11.69
    5 Indian 2.05
    6 Mesoamerican 0.62
    7 Paleo_African 0.26
    8 Melanesian 0.16
    9 Arctic_Amerind 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Gagauz 2.73
    2 Bulgarian 5.37
    3 Romania 6.68
    4 Macedonian 7.52
    5 Greek_North 8.47
    6 Greek_South 9.04
    7 Montenegrin 9.04
    8 Ashkenazim_V 9.54
    9 Serbian 10.7
    10 Italian-North 11.35
    11 Italian_North 11.47
    12 Swiss 11.95
    13 Greek_Center 11.97
    14 Provancal 12.19
    15 Italian-Center 13.43
    16 Greek_East 13.44
    17 Bosnian 13.79
    18 Jew_Romania 14.26
    19 German-South 15.23
    20 Kosovar 15.86

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 72.8% German-South + 27.2% Jew_Azerbaijan @ 1.45
    2 96.3% Gagauz + 3.7% Kalash @ 1.47
    3 95.7% Gagauz + 4.3% Pathan @ 1.5
    4 96.2% Gagauz + 3.8% Sindhi @ 1.51
    5 81.7% Montenegrin + 18.3% Kurd @ 1.53
    6 95.4% Gagauz + 4.6% Pashtun @ 1.54
    7 96% Gagauz + 4% Burusho @ 1.57
    8 73.2% German-South + 26.8% Jew_Tat @ 1.57
    9 96.1% Gagauz + 3.9% Balochi @ 1.62
    10 96.2% Gagauz + 3.8% Brahui @ 1.66
    11 72.8% German-South + 27.2% Jew-Uzbekistan @ 1.67
    12 96.4% Gagauz + 3.6% Jew_India @ 1.71
    13 96.2% Gagauz + 3.8% Makrani @ 1.72
    14 93.1% Gagauz + 6.9% Roma @ 1.75
    15 95.1% Gagauz + 4.9% Tadjik @ 1.78
    16 80.7% Montenegrin + 19.3% Azeri @ 1.8
    17 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% Georgian @ 1.82
    18 90.5% Bulgarian + 9.5% Parsi @ 1.82
    19 96% Gagauz + 4% Parsi @ 1.82
    20 91.6% Bulgarian + 8.4% Brahui @ 1.83

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    I received back my parents' results this morning, they're below. Pretty interesting Low Confidence Regions on both. The Irish on my father's are probably just noise, but the Europe East (which my sister got) and Finnish/Northwest Russia on my mother's results are relatively surprising. And considering Ancestry likes giving everyone Scandinavian, I'm chalking mine, my sister and my mother's up to being English.

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    Europe West 48%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 19%
    Europe South 12%
    Iberian Peninsula 7%
    Great Britain 4%
    Scandinavia 4%
    Finland/Northwest Russia 3%
    Europe East 2%
    Caucasus 1%

    Father: 100% Italian paper trail

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    Europe South 73% (Southern Italy Genetic Community)
    Caucasus 18%
    Middle East 8%
    European Jewish <1%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales <1%

    Myself: (again for reference)

    Europe South 47%
    Europe West 29%
    Caucasus 12%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 5%
    Great Britain 2%
    Scandinavia 2%
    Iberian Peninsula 2%
    Middle East 1%

    My sister: (again for reference)

    Europe South 36%
    Caucasus 17%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 16%
    Europe West 11%
    Scandinavia 7%
    Europe East 5%
    Iberian Peninsula 5%
    European Jewish 1%
    Great Britain <1%
    Middle East <1%

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    Here is a comparison of my mom and her brother. Both are 100% French Canadian.

    Mom:
    Iberian Peninsula 32%
    Great Britain 23%
    Scandinavia 17%
    Europe South 15%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 9%
    Europe East 4%
    Europe West <1%

    Her Brother:
    Great Britain 64%
    Europe South 21%
    Iberian Peninsula 10%
    Europe East 2%
    Europe Jewish 2%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales <1%

    A few observations are that Great Britain appears to be a mixture of Ireland/Scotland/Wales and Scandinavia. Iberian Peninsula can sometimes appear as Europe South because both have a large Neolithic farming component. Lastly, Europe East can appear as Europe Jewish if you also have Europe South dna.

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    I mentioned this elsewhere, but this is a better place for it.

    My sister and I (both of us are majority English, about 12.5% Swedish, the Irish/Scottish/Welsh looks about right, there's also a little German and perhaps (far back) a bit of French and Dutch, but not much):

    Me:
    Europe West 42%
    Scandinavia 28%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 19%
    Great Britain 4%
    Europe South 3%
    Iberian Peninsula 2%
    Caucasus 2%

    Sister:
    Scandinavia 43%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 20%
    Great Britain 11%
    Europe West 10%
    Iberian Peninsula 8%
    Europe South 5%
    Caucasus 2%
    Finland/NW Russia <1%

    So taking out 12.5% for the real Scandinavian and about 19.5% (average) for the Ireland/Scotland/Wales, that leaves 68%. If you add the remaining Scandinavia, Great Britain, and Europe West together, we both get around 61%, which is similar to what the real amount of English would be.

    Of course, some of the Europe West (or Scandinavia) is related to the German/French/Dutch.

    I think her higher Iberian and Europe South is because her other results were grouped so much as Scandinavian, whereas mine went into Europe West (which would have higher Europe South/Iberian than Scandinavian does). Our K13 results are quite close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msmarjoribanks View Post
    I mentioned this elsewhere, but this is a better place for it.

    My sister and I (both of us are majority English, about 12.5% Swedish, the Irish/Scottish/Welsh looks about right, there's also a little German and perhaps (far back) a bit of French and Dutch, but not much):

    Me:
    Europe West 42%
    Scandinavia 28%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 19%
    Great Britain 4%
    Europe South 3%
    Iberian Peninsula 2%
    Caucasus 2%

    Sister:
    Scandinavia 43%
    Ireland/Scotland/Wales 20%
    Great Britain 11%
    Europe West 10%
    Iberian Peninsula 8%
    Europe South 5%
    Caucasus 2%
    Finland/NW Russia <1%

    So taking out 12.5% for the real Scandinavian and about 19.5% (average) for the Ireland/Scotland/Wales, that leaves 68%. If you add the remaining Scandinavia, Great Britain, and Europe West together, we both get around 61%, which is similar to what the real amount of English would be.

    Of course, some of the Europe West (or Scandinavia) is related to the German/French/Dutch.

    I think her higher Iberian and Europe South is because her other results were grouped so much as Scandinavian, whereas mine went into Europe West (which would have higher Europe South/Iberian than Scandinavian does). Our K13 results are quite close.
    Oh yeah, definitely some Ashkenazy is there

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    Oh yeah, definitely some Ashkenazy is there
    You are obsessed with Ashkenazi Jews. Where are you from, originally? I mean you, btw, not ancestors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poincare View Post
    You are obsessed with Ashkenazi Jews. Where are you from, originally? I mean you, btw, not ancestors
    Mongolia

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