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    King George III was probably suffering from a mental illnes-- new research

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    Researchers have concluded that King George III was probably suffering from a mental illness after computer analysis of hundreds of his letters.

    When programmed to 'read' historical texts by scanning for certain features, a computer 'learned' to predict the King's mental illness from the characteristics of his writing.

    The 1994 film The Madness of King George portrayed aspects of the King's behaviour and researchers now say his letters reveals that the cause of his illness was most likely to be due to a mental health problem rather than a physical disease. In a control condition, the computer found no difference between the language used in circumstances that could also have influenced the King's mental state, such as the different seasons, or periods when the country was at war or in peacetime.

    This implied that the differences the computer did identify were specific to mental illness -- probably an 'acute mania'- a term used to describe an excitable, hyperactive condition. In today's modern psychiatric terminology this might form part of a diagnosis of bipolar disorder.

    The researchers at St George's, University of London had previously argued that the King probably suffered from episodes of 'acute mania', rejecting the once popular notion that his well described periods of strange behaviour were the result of the inherited condition porphyria.

    Peter Garrard, Professor of Neurology at St George's, said: "King George wrote very differently when unwell, compared to when he was healthy. In the manic periods we could see that he used less rich vocabulary and fewer adverbs. He repeated words less often and there was a lower degree of redundancy, or wordiness."

    Professor Garrard has previously shown how language changes can give clues to the behaviour of other well-known figures, including the onset of dementia in the novelist Iris Murdoch and the development of hubristic tendencies in British Prime Ministers. He concluded: "It would be fascinating to look at how modern patients write during the manic phase of bipolar disorder, as this could create a definite link to King George and possibly other historical cases of the illness.

    "The technique could then be applied to the analysis other historical figures' language in periods of health and illness, as well as patterns of language production in contemporary politicians such as the new US President Donald Trump."

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    Vassiliki Rentoumi, Timothy Peters, Jonathan Conlin, Peter Garrard. The acute mania of King George III: A computational linguistic analysis. PLOS ONE, 2017; 12 (3): e0171626 DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0171626

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    "The technique could then be applied to the analysis other historical figures' language in periods of health and illness, as well as patterns of language production in contemporary politicians such as the new US President Donald Trump."
    Naturally, implying Trump is probably insane. No need for a computer to know that Professor Garrard is a twit.

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    I think with Trump it depends if sociopathy is regarded as a mental illness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    I think with Trump it depends if sociopathy is regarded as a mental illness.
    Let's not let this forum descend into mutual patting-on-the-back-for-being-liberals...

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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    I think with Trump it depends if sociopathy is regarded as a mental illness.
    Thanks for your inexpert analysis.

    I think better candidates for this program would be Angela Merkel and probably whoever thought arresting Tommy Robinson was just.
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    Tommy Robinson is a nasty little thug. No civilised and decent person on these forums should be supporting him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    Tommy Robinson is a nasty little thug. No civilised and decent person on these forums should be supporting him.
    In civilized and decent societies, one actually has to commit a crime to justify an arrest, conviction, and jail sentence, whether or not he is a "nasty little thug".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    In civilized and decent societies, one actually has to commit a crime to justify an arrest, conviction, and jail sentence, whether or not he is a "nasty little thug".

    https://inews.co.uk/opinion/why-was-...ions-in-place/ explains why he was arrested .I agree it was not crime of the century but it was a crime nonetheless .
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    How is standing outside the courthouse using one's phone to make a video "broadcasting details about the trial"?

    We're not going to agree on this.

    Britain Persecutes Robinson

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    or we agree that honorable people, can strongly disagree on a couple of serious points, and yet go on to talk about other serious things in a comfortable on going sort of way

    I know there are some here I disagree very strongly with on a couple of points, yet we seem to share many values and beliefs on a whole host of other things and can enjoy their company, which quite plainly I really do, as I visit this damn site several times a day, just to see what folks are chatting about

    Lots of times I have added what I considered to be a minor 'throw away' line in some point I am making, only to have someone view it differently than me and get irritated with it
    ...I dont think I am being cowardly by not bringing up the same sore point over and over again, just as I dont think they are being a jerk by reminding me that others do not always share my view

    my real point is be gentle with each other friends, we really are not required to agree on everything

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    yet again, the Irish stand up for peaceful, happy coexistence


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