J1 from Greece

[Alexandra_K]

Hello, my father tested at 23andme and his y dna haplogroup was found to be J1. He is Greek. I am new in this and I don't have a lot of knowledge on the subject but I was wondering if in this case J1 is ancient/ native or if it could be due to Arab/Turkish or maybe even Avar invasions.

[J1 DYS388=13]

J1 has lots of further branches. It would at least be helpful to determine if he is J1 (a mostly northern type) or J1e (a mostly southern type which includes Arabs). I think maybe 23andMe doesn't distinguish between them, although it used to --- https://blog.23andme.com/news/23andm...aplogroup-j1e/

[J1 DYS388=13]

Try this. In his 23andMe account, at upper right, click on his name, the Browse Raw Data. In the search box, put rs34043621. Does it show anything as a result?

[ArmandoR1b]

The direct link to rs34043621 in 23andme is https://you.23andme.com/tools/data/?query=rs34043621

For those that don't know rs34043621 is P58/Page8/PF4698 which is J1a2a1a2 in the 2017 ISOGG tree which is J1e in the 2009 ISOGG tree.

[ArmandoR1b]

The J1 SNPs tested by the 23andme v5 chip are the following:

# rsid	position	SNP and synonyms	Ancestral	Derived
rs370799651	7171834	L321/PF4646	G	T
rs9341313	22741818	M267/PF4782: F4320	T	G
rs376267849	16227302	CTS5368/Z2215	G	A
i4000205	14487338	P56	A	G
i706857	14487338	P56	A	G
rs34043621	14486667	P58/Page8/PF4698	T	C
rs776291331	19136821	L818/S4972	A	G
rs201301961	6932106	L816	A	T
rs746714434	2669716	CTS15/Z1828	C	T

The results for each can be searched at https://you.23andme.com/tools/data/

[Alexandra_K]

Thank you guys!!! I will try to take a look now!

[Alexandra_K]

His genotype is T

[J1 DYS388=13]

His genotype is T

Excellent. And does he have a result for this one?

rs746714434 2669716 CTS15/Z1828

[Alexandra_K]

Let me check! :-)

[Alexandra_K]

It is C