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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    I did a little digging. I found this Pontic & Anatolian Greeks DNA page https://www.familytreedna.com/public...frame=yresults which shows most of the J1 people to be positive for Z1828 which is downstream from Z2215.

    Z2217 is tested by the J1-M267 Superclade Panel at https://www.yseq.net/product_info.ph...ducts_id=30693

    I suggest getting that panel to find the most downstream subclade that the panel tests for.
    Good idea. This is more detail than you get with Family Tree DNA.

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    Thank you, Armando R1b!

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    Hello again! I uploaded my father's 23andme raw data to Wegene and the result for paternal haplogroup was J1a2a1a1 (!!!) instead of just J1, which was provided by 23andme. Do you think I can trust this result?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandra_K View Post
    Hello again! I uploaded my father's 23andme raw data to Wegene and the result for paternal haplogroup was J1a2a1a1 (!!!) instead of just J1, which was provided by 23andme. Do you think I can trust this result?!
    I am pretty sure J1a2a1a1 is another name for J1-PF7264 or J1-ZS4393 which the father clade of J1-P56 and J1-PF7263.
    Ftdna MyOrigins 2.0: 100% SE European

    23andme: 100% Balkan

    Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian

    Ydna: J1>P58>YSC234>ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*

    Mtdna: T1a1l

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandra_K View Post
    Hello again! I uploaded my father's 23andme raw data to Wegene and the result for paternal haplogroup was J1a2a1a1 (!!!) instead of just J1, which was provided by 23andme. Do you think I can trust this result?!
    Yes because J1a2a1a1 is defined by PF7264 and it is downstream from Z2215 there is not a reverse mutation on that position and it isn't a false positive in the kits that I have. It is i703425 in the raw data. Position 7842079. C is negative and G is positive. You can check your result at https://you.23andme.com/tools/data/?query=i703425

    I didn't have that SNP in the tree that I used so I'll have to update the tree that I used. It's good that we verified the upstream result of Z2215 first.

    It's position in the tree can be seen at https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-ZS4393/
    Last edited by ArmandoR1b; 06-03-2018 at 07:16 PM.

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    Hello Kelmendasi and thank you! Do you know something more about this clade?

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    I hope Wegene is accurate 😎

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    Thank you too, Armando! I checked it and it is a G.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandra_K View Post
    Hello Kelmendasi and thank you! Do you know something more about this clade?
    No problem. I would say that ZS4393/PF7264 expanded from eastern Anatolia which is where it ancestor, L136, seems to have originated. It's descendant branch PF7263 seems to have moved in the rest of Anatolia, the middle east and Europe whilst it's other descendant, P56, moved down to the red sea and crossed it. I would say that your father possibly is PF7263 under ZS4393 and that this clade may have arrived to Europe during the Bronze Age with links to cultures like the Kura-Araxes or later on, there isn't much info on this haplogroup so this is all guess work. The main J1 clade among Serbs is actually PF7263
    Ftdna MyOrigins 2.0: 100% SE European

    23andme: 100% Balkan

    Geneplaza K25: 100% Greek-Albanian

    Ydna: J1>P58>YSC234>ZS241

    Maternal Ydna: E-V13>CTS5856*

    Mtdna: T1a1l

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    Very interesting!

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