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    Are the anatolian samples missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd View Post
    Traces of Botai in what? Botai doesn’t seem to have contributed to WEurasians. Hardly anyone scored Botai in this calculator.
    And yet, if I recall it right, Narasimhan said that there's Botai both in Indus Valley and in Fennoscandia, in his Twitter twiit?

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    Hello Kurd, TienShan stands for Sakas or other equestrian nomads and does the K53 ancient come to Geneplaza?
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    East Europe 82%
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    West and Central Europe 1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    thanks
    what caught my eye is that the assyrian score more european neolithic than Kurds in the run
    on the other hand the kurds score MLBA WEST much higher than the assyrian he score only 1%
    kind regards
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    Assyrians? .............are these an ancient mix of people which are or could be Armenians, Hurrians, Kurds and Medes ? .......who are Assyrians?

    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS54+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, Y70078+ )

    The main negatives = ( M193-, P322-, P327-, Pages11- , L25- , CTS1848- )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd View Post
    POPULATION English Turkish Assyrian Kurd_C1 Kurd_C3 Kurd_Feyli
    BMAC 3.58% 12.67% 17.72% 13.66% 12.97% 13.25%
    Dzharkutan1_BA 0.00% 1.18% 2.56% 3.50% 3.18% 0.71%
    Gonur1_BA 0.05% 2.54% 3.74% 1.02% 1.96% 1.29%
    Sappali_Tepe_BA 3.53% 8.95% 11.42% 9.14% 7.83% 11.25%

    TURAN_EN_CHL 0.00% 5.39% 10.91% 10.09% 10.67% 12.94%
    Parkhai_EN 0.00% 0.00% 3.44% 1.94% 2.41% 3.90%
    Tepe_Anau/Hissar 0.00% 5.39% 7.47% 8.15% 8.26% 9.04%

    IRAN_CHL & KURA_ARAXES 6.02% 11.15% 10.34% 6.32% 6.02% 9.02%
    Haji_Firuz 0.60% 3.50% 1.83% 1.39% 1.51% 2.53%
    Seh_Gabi 1.95% 4.23% 4.51% 2.32% 4.10% 3.17%
    Armenia_ChL 3.47% 3.42% 4.00% 2.61% 0.41% 3.32%

    PAKISTAN_IA 0.00% 7.85% 5.47% 11.60% 13.15% 10.50%
    Aligrama_IA 0.00% 0.22% 0.24% 1.61% 1.49% 0.55%
    Butkara_IA 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    Katelai_IA 0.00% 2.04% 0.15% 0.16% 0.00% 1.51%
    Loebanr_IA 0.00% 3.26% 0.00% 0.44% 1.11% 3.00%
    Saidu_Sharif_IA 0.00% 2.33% 2.31% 5.99% 8.92% 4.05%
    Udegram_IA 0.00% 0.00% 2.77% 3.40% 1.63% 1.39%

    AASI 0.00% 3.34% 0.00% 0.76% 0.24% 2.16%

    SAKA_HUN_EASTERN 1.22% 4.83% 3.33% 8.18% 5.92% 5.53%
    Hun_TienShan_A 0.00% 0.00% 1.42% 0.86% 1.25% 0.77%
    Hun_TienShan_B 0.00% 3.27% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 3.04%
    Saka_Altai 1.04% 0.10% 0.00% 1.19% 1.48% 0.71%
    Saka_TienShan_A 0.18% 1.46% 1.91% 3.31% 2.57% 0.00%
    Saka_TienShan_B 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 2.82% 0.62% 1.01%

    SCYTHIAN_SARMATIAN 4.29% 5.47% 3.54% 3.37% 4.40% 6.31%
    Sarmatian 1.33% 4.02% 0.69% 1.88% 2.53% 3.07%
    Scythian_Hungary 2.96% 1.45% 2.85% 1.49% 1.87% 3.24%

    MLBA_EAST 2.15% 2.72% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.88%
    Oy_Dzhaylau_MLBA 0.00% 0.73% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.88%
    Zevakinskiy_LBA 2.15% 1.99% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%

    MLBA_WEST 22.70% 0.55% 1.34% 9.54% 11.75% 3.81%
    Maitan_MLBA 5.94% 0.00% 0.00% 1.55% 2.59% 1.99%
    Sintashta_MLBA 10.77% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 1.19% 0.88%
    Steppe_MLBA 5.99% 0.55% 1.34% 7.99% 7.97% 0.94%

    EMBA 5.42% 2.63% 2.78% 3.43% 2.60% 1.26%

    ANCIENT_SAAMI 2.49% 1.26% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 3.64%

    SIBERIAN_HG 1.18% 0.00% 0.00% 1.39% 0.41% 0.00%
    Botai 0.42% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    Okunevo 0.76% 0.00% 0.00% 1.39% 0.41% 0.00%

    EUROPEAN_CHL_EBA 17.11% 11.40% 11.89% 9.15% 7.86% 5.74%
    Balkans_CHL 5.17% 3.81% 3.44% 4.11% 3.27% 1.46%
    England_CHL_EBA 5.96% 3.06% 0.15% 2.50% 0.00% 1.11%
    Europe_MNChL 5.98% 4.53% 8.30% 2.45% 4.59% 3.17%
    Scotland_CHL_EBA 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.09% 0.00% 0.00%

    EUROPEAN_NEOLITHIC 29.92% 25.10% 24.52% 14.07% 16.86% 17.27%
    Balkans_N 3.14% 7.60% 8.80% 8.66% 9.58% 8.73%
    England_N 1.13% 2.04% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.55%
    Europe_LNBA 11.71% 8.13% 6.51% 0.00% 1.77% 5.72%
    Globular_Amphora 2.02% 0.00% 0.00% 2.51% 1.00% 0.00%
    Peloponnese_N 2.34% 4.42% 3.40% 1.32% 0.96% 2.27%
    Scotland_N 9.58% 2.91% 5.81% 1.58% 3.55% 0.00%

    UKRAINE_N & WHG 3.01% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.01%
    Ukraine_Eneolithic 1.24% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    Ukraine_Neolithic 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.01%
    WHG 1.77% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%

    LEVANT_BA 0.00% 4.17% 5.99% 5.85% 3.69% 5.54%

    AFRICAN 0.61% 0.65% 1.33% 2.21% 2.90% 2.13%
    African_E1 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.13% 0.00% 0.21%
    African_W 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 2.08% 1.12% 0.00%
    African_E2 0.61% 0.65% 0.83% 0.00% 1.78% 1.92%
    African_S 0.00% 0.00% 0.50% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%

    AMERINDIAN 0.00% 0.78% 0.27% 0.00% 0.03% 0.00%
    Karitiana 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    Pima 0.00% 0.51% 0.27% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
    Surui 0.00% 0.27% 0.00% 0.00% 0.03% 0.00%

    PAPUAN 0.30% 0.00% 0.55% 0.33% 0.49% 0.00%



    NOTES:

    1- With regards to points 1 & 2 in opening post, notice the English subject scores 0 Pakistan IA and Turan EN-CHL, unlike in previous ancient calculators.

    2- Although there is considerable overlap between W and E Scythians, notice how the English test subject chooses W over E Scythian, whereas the opposite pattern is observed with many Asians. This is mostly due to the finer resolution in this calculator.
    how do we run this program...i am not computer savvy

    European = 99.2%......Central Asian = 0.8% ....Yfull - 1460BC, Jura caves
    Father's Mtdna .........T2b17
    Grandfather's Mtdna .......T1a1e
    Sons Mtdna .......K1a4
    Maternal Grandfather paternal......I1d-P109...CTS6009
    Wife's Ydna .....R1a-Z282

    My Path = ( K-M9+, TL-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS54+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, Y70078+ )

    The main negatives = ( M193-, P322-, P327-, Pages11- , L25- , CTS1848- )

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    Do we even know to what extent BOO contibuted to modern North Europeans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huck Finn View Post
    And yet, if I recall it right, Narasimhan said that there's Botai both in Indus Valley and in Fennoscandia, in his Twitter twiit?
    WSHG,not Botai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    thanks
    what caught my eye is that the assyrian score more european neolithic than Kurds in the run
    on the other hand the kurds score MLBA WEST much higher than the assyrian he score only 1%
    kind regards
    adam

    Not surprising since Kurds have more geneflow from the steppe and C Asia than Assyrians. Also notice over double Pakistan_IA and and about double Saka for the Kurds vs Assyrian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eolien View Post
    Are the anatolian samples missing?
    I had them in there in a few test runs in lieu of Balkan_N. Testers were showing similar amounts. For ex, the Kurd sample scored 9% Anatolia_N. With Balkan_N, he still scores 9%. I just decided to go with Balkan_N because of Iran_Chl and Kura_Araxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huck Finn View Post
    And yet, if I recall it right, Narasimhan said that there's Botai both in Indus Valley and in Fennoscandia, in his Twitter twiit?
    I'll take a closer look later in the week with formal stats, but I recall there was more flow from Okunevo and WSHG to other neighboring pops.

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