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    Some new results:

    Ashkenazi (mix of East and West):
    Europe (South) 60%
    South Italy 45.1%
    Tuscany 6%
    Iberian Peninsula 4.5%
    North Italy 2.4%
    Aegean 2.1%
    Europe (East) 7.8%
    Baltics 3.5%
    West Balkans 3.1%
    Pannonia 1.1%
    Great Britain and Ireland 4.1%

    England and Wales 4.1%
    Europe (North and West) 3%
    Germanic 1.8%
    France 1.2%
    Near East 25.1%

    Levant 17.5%
    North Turkey 3.8%
    Iran 3.8%

    Italian (1/2 Venice, 1/2, 1/4 Piedmont, 1/4 Sardinia):
    Europe (South) 61.5%
    North Italy 14%
    Sardinia 13.6%
    South Italy 13%
    Iberian Peninsula 7.9%
    Aegean 7.9%
    Tuscany 5.1%
    Europe (North and West) 16.1%
    Germanic 12.4%
    France 3.7%
    Great Britain and Ireland 11.3%
    South England 6.2%
    East Anglia 2.1%
    Lincolnshire 1.7%
    North Yorkshire 1.3%
    Europe (East) 7%
    Pannonia 3.1%
    West Balkans 2.2%
    East Balkans 1.7%
    Near East 4%
    North Turkey 2.2%
    Levant 1.8%
    Last edited by jonahst; 06-15-2018 at 11:52 PM.

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    Greek (1/2 Epirus, 1/4 Kefalonia, 1/4 Kea)
    Europe (South) 73.4%
    Aegean 44.1%
    Tuscany 13.4%
    South Italy 12.3%
    North Italy 3.5%
    Europe (North and West) 12.2%
    France 8%
    Germanic 2.4%
    Scandinavia 1.8%
    Europe (East) 10%
    East Balkans 5.5%
    West Balkans 1.6%
    Pannonia 1.5%
    Northeast Europe 1.3%
    Great Britain and Ireland 4.5%
    England and Wales 4.5%

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    Jonahst and Sikeliot,
    Both Epirus and the Peloponnese are full of Slavic toponyms (our village is one of them)...In Epirus at least there are also many people with Arvanite or Vlach origins, like my family who has both. In the Peloponnese there are many Arvanites too.
    The last results are mine. My high Aegean is comparable to the person's from Albania, I would think. In my case, the high Aegean can be also my father's input (Kephalonia and Kea). However even he seems to have minor Arvanite admixture. One branch of my mom's family were Arvanites. Another 2 branches had been Vlach. It all depends on the reference populations they use for each category, as you say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandra_K View Post
    Jonahst and Sikeliot,
    Both Epirus and the Peloponnese are full of Slavic toponyms (our village is one of them)...In Epirus at least there are also many people with Arvanite or Vlach origins, like my family who has both. In the Peloponnese there are many Arvanites too.
    The last results are mine. My high Aegean is comparable to the person's from Albania, I would think. In my case, the high Aegean can be also my father's input (Kephalonia and Kea). However even he seems to have minor Arvanite admixture. One branch of my mom's family were Arvanites. Another 2 branches had been Vlach. It all depends on the reference populations they use for each category, as you say.
    Very interesting, thanks for the info!

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    Updated incomplete Ashkenazi Jewish results from page 1.

    Ashkenazi (East Europe):
    Europe (South) 54.2%
    South Italy 34.1%
    Tuscany 9%
    North Italy 8.1%
    Iberian Peninsula 3%
    Europe (North and West) 8.6%
    France 5.1%
    Scandinavia 1.9%
    Germanic 1.7%
    Europe (East) 6.9%
    Northeast Europe 3.7%
    Baltics 1.9%
    East Balkans 1.3%
    Near East 30.3%
    Levant 24.5%
    North Turkey 2.9%
    Iran 1.5%
    South Turkey 1.3%

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    Greek (3/4 Euboea, 1/4 Italian):
    Europe (South) 67.8%
    Aegean 38%
    Tuscany 17.2%
    South Italy 10.7%
    North Italy 1.9%
    Europe (East) 15%
    East Balkans 13.4%
    Finland and Western Russia 1.6%
    Europe (North and West) 7.8%
    Great Britain and Ireland 5.5%
    Scandinavia 1.2%
    France 1.1%Near East 9.4%
    Levant 7.7%
    Iran 1.7%

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    LivingDNA is an reliable company and just gives you an honest and politics free ethnic breakdown.
    On scam sites like 23andMe and AncestryDNA they give you fictitious categories like "Ashkenazi Jewish" and tell you ZERO about the REAL ethnic breakdown of that group.
    Literally on the aforementioned mentioned sites they call Ashkenazi Jews "100% European" and they ascribe no middle eastern ancestry to them; also they ascribe no European sub groups to them.
    How enlightening as to the origins of this group...
    From my extensive studies all of the politicized "science" on Ashkenazi Jews is totally incorrect and off.
    Ashkenazi Jews are roughly as much Turkish and Iranian as they are from the Levant and their European component is not 50% but more on the order of 65% to 70%.
    LivingDNA has confirmed this repeatedly.
    Some AJ, specifically J1 haplogroup will score higher Levant, but they're the minority of AJ.
    J2 is all over Turkey and Iran...
    Last edited by Frat; 07-25-2018 at 01:52 PM.

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    My results.
    So what am I?
    Can anyone venture to guess?

    France 35.8%
    Germanic 2.1%
    Europe (South) 20.2%
    Tuscany 10.3%
    South Italy 5.1%
    Iberian Peninsula 4.8%
    Great Britain and Ireland 9.3%
    England and Wales 9.3%
    Europe (East) 2.7%
    Northeast Europe 2.7%
    Near East 28%
    Levant 16.6%
    Iran 6.4%
    North Turkey 3%
    South Turkey 2%
    Asia (South) 1.9%
    Pashtun 1.9%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frat View Post
    My results.
    So what am I?
    Can anyone venture to guess?

    France 35.8%
    Germanic 2.1%
    Europe (South) 20.2%
    Tuscany 10.3%
    South Italy 5.1%
    Iberian Peninsula 4.8%
    Great Britain and Ireland 9.3%
    England and Wales 9.3%
    Europe (East) 2.7%
    Northeast Europe 2.7%
    Near East 28%
    Levant 16.6%
    Iran 6.4%
    North Turkey 3%
    South Turkey 2%
    Asia (South) 1.9%
    Pashtun 1.9%
    part lebanese and part french or swiss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frat View Post
    LivingDNA is an reliable company and just gives you an honest and politics free ethnic breakdown.
    On scam sites like 23andMe and AncestryDNA they give you fictitious categories like "Ashkenazi Jewish" and tell you ZERO about the REAL ethnic breakdown of that group.
    Literally on the aforementioned mentioned sites they call Ashkenazi Jews "100% European" and they ascribe no middle eastern ancestry to them; also they ascribe no European sub groups to them.
    How enlightening as to the origins of this group...
    From my extensive studies all of the politicized "science" on Ashkenazi Jews is totally incorrect and off.
    Ashkenazi Jews are roughly as much Turkish and Iranian as they are from the Levant and their European component is not 50% but more on the order of 65% to 70%.
    LivingDNA has confirmed this repeatedly.
    Some AJ, specifically J1 haplogroup will score higher Levant, but they're the minority of AJ.
    J2 is all over Turkey and Iran...
    Not exactly... If you look at the results on page 1, Ashkenazi Jews typically get 15-25% Levant and only a few % Iranian or North Turkey (South Turkey is basically northern Levantine). Pretty much all genetic tests, studies, and DIY calculators confirm this.

    Ashkenazi (East Europe):
    Europe (South) 54.2%
    South Italy 34.1%
    Tuscany 9%

    North Italy 8.1%
    Iberian Peninsula 3%
    Europe (North and West) 8.6%
    France 5.1%
    Scandinavia 1.9%
    Germanic 1.7%
    Europe (East) 6.9%
    Northeast Europe 3.7%
    Baltics 1.9%
    East Balkans 1.3%
    Near East 30.3%
    Levant 24.5%
    North Turkey 2.9%
    Iran 1.5%
    South Turkey 1.3%

    Also, Levantine Christians (Lebanese and Palestinian) score about 45% Southern Europe in Living DNA, compared to Ashkenazim scoring about 55-60% Southern Europe and 65-70% Europe in total.

    Lebanese Christian:
    Near East 48.3%
    Levant 47%
    Iran 1.3%
    Europe (South) 46.8%
    Tuscany 22.4%
    South Italy 22.3%

    Sardinia 2.1%
    Asia (South) 4.9%
    Pashtun 3.6%
    Sindh 1.3%

    That being said, I agree with you that commercial tests that have an "Ashkenazi" category are misleading and frustrating since they basically ignore the complex and geographically-diverse origins of the group.

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