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    Q-L712 in Poland

    23andMe send me my test analysis that is Q-L712 Y-DNA. Any clues how it got to Poland from Central Asia? I have made genealogical research to A.D. 1730, all ancestors lived in Central Poland. My Coat of Arms "Rawa" descends from the Vrsovec clan/tribe the Czech aristocracy. The same ethnonym one might find in Hungary -Varsany. It's been proved that the Varsanys were Alans tribe.

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    The l712 polish are Niezgoda (Ćwiklak). The theory is that is probably a Hunnic marker. Maybe its nice to contact https://www.familytreedna.com/groups...out/background for more information.
    Of all the countries, this is possibly the most beautiful. All that is beautiful and can be rarely seen in
    other countries can be seen everywhere here... Here live the people who wear the cleanest clothes and prepare the
    most flavorful dishes... Of all of God’s servants, the local people are the most compassionate and merciful...

    Ibn Battuta about Asia Minor 1333CE

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    Nope, no hunnic.
    Q-people did enter Europe very early, on the northern outskirts of the
    continents. Later they become germanized and came here with Germans.
    Some probably were earlier, coming with Yamna, but it had to be incident
    examples. Some, especially in the south, could be of Avar remnants, and
    some as a result of jewish influence. So, the sources are very divergent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vars View Post
    My Coat of Arms "Rawa"
    On what do you base your armorial belongship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Nope, no hunnic.
    Q-people did enter Europe very early, on the northern outskirts of the
    continents. Later they become germanized and came here with Germans.
    Some probably were earlier, coming with Yamna, but it had to be incident
    examples. Some, especially in the south, could be of Avar remnants, and
    some as a result of jewish influence. So, the sources are very divergent.
    I even heard some fell out of the sky. You should do some research before posting, maybe have a look at the ftdna l712 project.
    Of all the countries, this is possibly the most beautiful. All that is beautiful and can be rarely seen in
    other countries can be seen everywhere here... Here live the people who wear the cleanest clothes and prepare the
    most flavorful dishes... Of all of God’s servants, the local people are the most compassionate and merciful...

    Ibn Battuta about Asia Minor 1333CE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    l712
    I didn't see this detail
    Nevertheless, hunnic influence was none in Poland, and much more influrentitial were
    Avars and later Tatars, Piechigns whatever. Sources can be different anyway, and
    prescribing the one marker to some particular, short living entity is not good idea,
    especially, that the entity was a conglomerate itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    On what do you base your armorial belongship?
    Genealogical research. There's another possibility - Some Landlords in Poland hired Székely mercenaries in Renaissance ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vars View Post
    Genealogical research.
    I guess... but how did you find the herb and your connection to him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    I guess... but how did you find the herb and your connection to him?
    You can find it in the archives.. if you are lucky I was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vars View Post
    You can find it in the archives.. if you are lucky I was.
    By full sentence please.
    What archive, who wrote it, what type of document and from which year?

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