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    Quote Originally Posted by Username View Post
    His Hun combined is 5.2 and mine is 4.8 with Ancestry. His Saka+Hun combined is pretty much dead even with evon's wife (Turkish) and cercle's mom (Serbian) who actually has the highest Saka/Hun combined.

    So far in a nutshell nobody here is overwhelmingly dominating with the Saka/Hun/Sarmatian but it's mostly South East and East Europeans that get highest scores and that one dude's Norman dad. Too bad there aren't more results from Russians and NE Europeans and Scandinavians. Plus more East, Central-East, South-East Europeans there's really only a handful of us here. And more Turkish results and some Central Asians, Siberians and East Asians would be very interesting and helpful. And surprisingly I haven't seen many South Asian results either.
    Yeah, but your Ancestry run doesn't look quite reliable. 23andme v5 makes a lot more sense given your paper ancestry.

    These Scythian-like components are representative of the last waves of migration from the steppes and a map of their migrations will show that they mainly used the Pontic corridor, as opposed to the North European plain.

    So naturally, people along Ukraine, down to the Balkans and reaching into Hungary, Czechia and parts of Southern Germany could score more here than the rest.

    I'll leave something interesting here from an old K14 analysis by Kurd, because it is somewhat consistent with my Saka/Hun/Sarmatian result.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurd
    My interpretation of this is that the common alleles are indicative of an older shared common ancestry between E Europeans and Tajiks via the steppe nomads. So those alleles that you share with Tajiks are IMO alleles handed down by steppe nomads to both E Europeans and Tajiks.

    SAMPLE MAF>0.001 388K SNPs Dorkymon
    Pashtun 0.00%
    SE European 48.96%
    Altaian 0.00%
    NE Europe 35.06%
    SE Asian 0.00%
    African 0.00%
    Finno-Ugric 0.00%
    Indian 0.00%
    SW Asian 0.00%
    NE Caucasus 0.00%
    Selkup 0.00%
    Papuan 0.00%
    C Asian 0.00%
    Tajik 15.97%
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    Known ancestry: 1/2 Romanian Northeast + 1/4 Romanian Southeast + 1/4 Romanian Bukovina Ukraine
    23andme: 53.5% South Euro (41.8% Balkan), 22.4% East Euro, 7.3% Northwest Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi, 14.7% Broadly Euro, 1.8% East Asian
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: 45.2% Levant_N, 37.2% EHG, 8.2% WHG, 8% Iran_N, 1.4% East Asian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    Yeah, but your Ancestry run doesn't look quite reliable. 23andme v5 makes a lot more sense given your paper ancestry.
    I'd ask Kurd if the Ancestry data is garbage. I don't think it is because then everyone else's results are garbage and we're completely wasting our time.

    V5 makes more sense given my paper ancestry? Not sure at all what you mean by that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrafael. View Post
    Oh how one wishes they were the progeny of Scythia and Saramatia - the great Iranian nations of chivalrous horsemen and women, clad in pajamas atop high horses - who lived from Iberia to the edge of the world way past up Hyperborea. A free people who knew the sky and endless plains, who rode to their hearts desire.
    Your people hunt lions with spears and steal meat from them while they're feasting on their prey, they may not ride horses but that's pretty damn badass Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Username View Post
    I'd ask Kurd if the Ancestry data is garbage. I don't think it is because then everyone else's results are garbage and we're completely wasting our time.

    V5 makes more sense given my paper ancestry? Not sure at all what you mean by that.
    My opinion is that you get too much MLBA-West with Ancestry for it to be accurate. I see MLBA-West as something mediated across the North European plain mostly, perhaps with the Corded Ware culture.
    But maybe I'm wrong. I'll gather the data from the thread, analyse it and will come back to you on that.
    Known ancestry: 1/2 Romanian Northeast + 1/4 Romanian Southeast + 1/4 Romanian Bukovina Ukraine
    23andme: 53.5% South Euro (41.8% Balkan), 22.4% East Euro, 7.3% Northwest Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi, 14.7% Broadly Euro, 1.8% East Asian
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: 45.2% Levant_N, 37.2% EHG, 8.2% WHG, 8% Iran_N, 1.4% East Asian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idwaajeden View Post
    Nothing weird in the past you said you have some Bulgarian roots. That will give some similarity with Scythian Hungary.

    So I have seen European Jews who have high Saka Hun Sarmat I am nowhere close convinced this entirely from European ancestor, I am even more skeptical Uzbekistan-BA is also from a "East European or any European or West Asian/Levantine" but probably from Central Asia ancestral individual who descendants had definite contact with European Jews population. Or why Uzbekistan-BA showing? Uzbekistan is Central Asia bordering Khazakstan last time I look atlas.
    Hallo Idwaajeden is Nmonte Calc.25 from Gedmatch or others?
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    H76 czech Republic W3a1d Yamnaya Culture, Samara /Pontic steppe
    Scytho-sarmatian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    My opinion is that you get too much MLBA-West with Ancestry for it to be accurate. I see MLBA-West as something mediated across the North European plain mostly, perhaps with the Corded Ware culture.
    But maybe I'm wrong. I'll gather the data from the thread, analyse it and will come back to you on that.
    MLBA West is typical of Europeans Yamna culture and CWC, Scythian are just a slight admixture the other has more the other has less. MLBA East is more for Central Asians (Andronovo Culture). All Northeast Europeans and Eastern Europeans have a loose 30% -45% steppe of them most MLBA West then MLBA East and last Scythian, Huns is such a thing as Komponete.
    Alain Dad
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    H76 czech Republic W3a1d Yamnaya Culture, Samara /Pontic steppe
    Scytho-sarmatian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alain View Post
    MLBA West is typical of Europeans Yamna culture and CWC, Scythian are just a slight admixture the other has more the other has less. MLBA East is more for Central Asians (Andronovo Culture). All Northeast Europeans and Eastern Europeans have a loose 30% -45% steppe of them most MLBA West then MLBA East and last Scythian, Huns is such a thing as Komponete.
    I partially agree, because if the components were so interchangeable then there wouldn't really be a need for a K35. You could combine them all and go for a K18 or something instead.
    So, I want to believe that they are stronger than that.
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    23andme: 53.5% South Euro (41.8% Balkan), 22.4% East Euro, 7.3% Northwest Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi, 14.7% Broadly Euro, 1.8% East Asian
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: 45.2% Levant_N, 37.2% EHG, 8.2% WHG, 8% Iran_N, 1.4% East Asian

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    Uzbekistan-BA This not Levant but this is Central Asia
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    Who is Saka TienShan B? You are more historian...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idwaajeden View Post
    Who is Saka TienShan B? You are more historian...
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...Rik/edit#gid=0
    Known ancestry: 1/2 Romanian Northeast + 1/4 Romanian Southeast + 1/4 Romanian Bukovina Ukraine
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    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: 45.2% Levant_N, 37.2% EHG, 8.2% WHG, 8% Iran_N, 1.4% East Asian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alain View Post
    Hallo Idwaajeden is Nmonte Calc.25 from Gedmatch or others?
    Is for Global25 nMonte from Davidski he creates coordinates from your raw data for 12$ paypal

    And then webrunner you have to contact Poi on Anthrogenica to send him your coordinates and you can use unlimited nMonte runs free. Or sponsorship $ you can get 5, 6, 7 populations for oracle

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