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    My south Asian percentage almost disappeared(I am normally around 20% south Asian). I am 5% north Indian + 2% Central Asia-south now. While I have noticed that the update is very conservative and improved for many people, the algorithm still has big problems with Cushitic + Middle-Eastern admixed people.

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    The breakdown for my mother in law is 100% "Northern Indian". It is a pretty broad category, so room for improvement there.

     


    Her daughter is 98% "Northern Indian" with 2% "Central Asian - South"

     


    My mom is 84% "Northern Indian" and 16% "Central Asian - South".

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    My Ancestry results just arrived:
    Central Asia South:66%range (56% - 100%)
    North India: 31% range (30 - 36%)
    South India: 3% range (0 - 15%)

    Additional communities assigned: Punjab and Western India.
    Attachment 42007
    No idea why part of East Punjab, Haryana and even Himachal are still part of the super broad "Northern India" rather than the Pakistani portion of Central Asia South. Anyways, I get a 50% 50% split between South Central Asia and Northern India and it probably varies between 45-70% or so for most Punjabis from East Punjab.

    I also go the additional communities: Punjab and Western India:

    Screen Shot 2021-02-03 at 9.31.27 AM.png

    Personally, I think there might be a Swat IA (SPGT) vs. Cemetery H dynamic going on.
    Last edited by Sapporo; 02-03-2021 at 05:36 PM.
    pegasus modeling:
    sample": "Punjabi_Jat:Sapporo_AGUser",
    "fit": 1.1506,
    "IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3": 43.33,
    "TKM_Gonur1_BA": 31.67,
    "RUS_Sintashta_MLBA": 25,
    "closestDistances": [

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    No idea why part of East Punjab, Haryana and even Himachal are still part of the super broad "Northern India" rather than the Pakistani portion of Central Asia South. Anyways, I get a 50% 50% split between South Central Asia and Northern India and it probably varies between 45-70% or so for most Punjabis from East Punjab.

    I also go the additional communities: Punjab and Western India:

    Screen Shot 2021-02-03 at 9.31.27 AM.png

    Personally, I think there might be a Swat IA (SPGT) vs. Cemetery H dynamic going on.
    Most of my Sikh Jatt matches on Ancestry are similar to me in terms of proportions.

    Sidhu
    Central Asia—South84%
    Northern India16%
    Southern India0%

    Sidhu
    Central Asia—South65%
    Northern India32%
    Southern India3%

    Singh
    Central Asia—South65%
    Northern India35%
    Southern India0%

    Singh
    Central Asia—South8%
    Northern India82%
    Southern India10%


    There are major issues with Ancestry's population clusters. The problem with Ancestry is that they do not further divide South Central Asian cluster so both Iran-N heavy (or BMAC derived) and Turkmenistan-IA derived Iranics end up in the same pile, FTDNA makes a separate cluster for both. Similarly, FTDNA and Ancestry seem to be clustering all peninsular regions (Haryana, Himanchal, UP, Rajasthan and Gujarat) into one cluster. Ancestry also has a combined cluster of South and East Indians where its hard to tell whether its excess South Indian or East Indian that one is scoring. Its probably the reason why East Asian (Tibetan) ancestry in Kashmiris and Himanchalis makes some of them score high on 'East India' cluster on FTDNA. 'North India' cluster on FTDNA is Punjab focused yet Punjabis don't score higher than 10% on it, reason being 'Indus Valley cluster' is preferred.
    Last edited by Kapisa; 02-03-2021 at 07:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    Most of my Sikh Jatt matches on Ancestry are similar to me in terms of proportions.

    Sidhu
    Central Asia—South84%
    Northern India16%
    Southern India0%

    Sidhu
    Central Asia—South65%
    Northern India32%
    Southern India3%

    Singh
    Central Asia—South65%
    Northern India35%
    Southern India0%

    Singh
    Central Asia—South8%
    Northern India82%
    Southern India10%


    There are major issues with Ancestry's population clusters. The problem with Ancestry is that they do not further divide South Central Asian cluster so both Iran-N heavy (or BMAC derived) and Turkmenistan-IA derived Iranics end up in the same pile, FTDNA makes a separate cluster for both. Similarly, FTDNA and Ancestry seem to be clustering all peninsular regions (Haryana, Himanchal, UP, Rajasthan and Gujarat) into one cluster. Ancestry also has a combined cluster of South and East Indians where its hard to tell whether its excess South Indian or East Indian that one is scoring. Its probably the reason why East Asian (Tibetan) ancestry in Kashmiris and Himanchalis makes some of them score high on 'East India' cluster on FTDNA. 'North India' cluster on FTDNA is Punjab focused yet Punjabis don't score higher than 10% on it, reason being 'Indus Valley cluster' is preferred.
    I think the Punjabi dataset on FTDNA is based on outdated Punjabi lahore samples, most of which resemble Punjabi Dalits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    I think the Punjabi dataset on FTDNA is based on outdated Punjabi lahore samples, most of which resemble Punjabi Dalits.
    Just like Gujarati samples PJL fall into various distinct clusters. One group is below 30% SI (they cluster with Khatris/Sheikhs), then there is 30-40% SI (some of them cluster with Kashmiris/Paharis), then there are those above 40% SI they seem to be similar to Saidu Sharif outlier. I am not sure if Jatts are part of this random sample.

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    Just seen the update today and this time I am: (forgot about updates lol)

    73% Central Asia South
    25% North India
    2% South India
    Maternal Grandfather's Maternal Line: U7a3a4a

    Bro in law Maternal line: K1a12a YDna:R-Y7

    Mates F Mtdna : R30a

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    Dads results:
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    I simulated his G25 coordinates on Genoplot and his results are as follows:
    1ph2ter) 2nd millennium BCE G25
    Ph2ter 2nd millennium BCE G25.png
    2 Supreeeme) World K134
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    SNPs used in this evaluation: 171365.Kit: Ancestry. Y-DNA: R-Y7, mtDNA ? (WGS in progress)
    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 43.34
    2 S-Indian 28.64
    3 Caucasian 13.28
    4 NE-Euro 8.05
    5 SW-Asian 2.28
    6 Siberian 1.42
    7 NE-Asian 1.11
    8 American 0.47
    9 Papuan 0.38
    10 Mediterranean 0.37
    11 San 0.35
    12 W-African 0.28
    13 Beringian 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 sindhi (harappa) 3.45
    2 punjabi-arain (xing) 4.32
    3 sindhi (hgdp) 5
    4 bhatia (harappa) 5.43
    5 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 5.66
    6 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 5.66
    7 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 6.02
    8 punjabi (harappa) 6.13
    9 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 6.25
    10 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 6.42
    11 pathan (hgdp) 6.44
    12 kashmiri (harappa) 6.46
    13 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 6.77
    14 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 6.87
    15 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 7.39
    16 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 8.44
    17 kalash (hgdp) 8.72
    18 burusho (hgdp) 8.85
    19 up-muslim (harappa) 10.68
    20 nepalese-a (xing) 11.46

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 57.1% sindhi (harappa) + 42.9% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 1.74
    2 77.5% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 22.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 1.79
    3 80.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 19.6% brahui (hgdp) @ 1.83
    4 61.5% sindhi (harappa) + 38.5% sindhi (hgdp) @ 1.87
    5 80.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 19.6% makrani (hgdp) @ 1.99
    6 92% punjabi-arain (xing) + 8% lezgin (behar) @ 2.18
    7 61.9% punjabi-arain (xing) + 38.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.21
    8 92.8% punjabi-arain (xing) + 7.2% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.21
    9 93.3% punjabi-arain (xing) + 6.7% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 2.22
    10 93.4% punjabi-arain (xing) + 6.6% adygei (hgdp) @ 2.27
    11 92.5% punjabi-arain (xing) + 7.5% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 2.27
    12 92% punjabi-arain (xing) + 8% urkarah (xing) @ 2.27
    13 93.4% punjabi-arain (xing) + 6.6% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 2.29
    14 94.3% punjabi-arain (xing) + 5.7% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 2.34
    15 69.8% punjabi-arain (xing) + 30.2% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.35
    16 94.6% punjabi-arain (xing) + 5.4% georgian (behar) @ 2.38
    17 62.4% bhatia (harappa) + 37.6% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 2.39
    18 82.1% pathan (hgdp) + 17.9% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 2.39
    19 81.2% pathan (hgdp) + 18.8% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 2.41
    20 79.8% bhatia (harappa) + 20.2% cochin-jew (behar) @ 2.42
    Target: Kapisa_scaled
    Distance: 1.7453% / 0.01745296
    44.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
    35.0 UZB_Bustan_BA
    18.0 KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1
    2.6 MNG_East_N

    Mitochondrial Haplogroup: R30b found in Shahr-I-Sokhta_BA1 subclades found in Swat IA:Leobanr, Katelai & Barikot Historic.

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    Hello all, I'm new to this forum and just received my Ancestry results. It shows the following:

    Central Asia South - 56%
    North India - 44%

    Communities - Punjab & Western India

    This seems accurate as I've always been told I'm from a Jatt Sikh background (I have an uncommon surname from both sides - village name and unsure of gotra).

    I uploaded my info to MorleyDNA and it showed my Y-Haplogroup as J2aLi (J2-L88). I don't know much about genetics, but how accurate would you say these haplogroup results are for Ancestry's uploaded raw data compared to another company like 23&me? I have a hypothesized distant paternal uncle (perhaps shared great great great grandfather) who tested on 23&me but has a different haplogroup (L1a2).
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