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    My Living DNA results (Greek) and comparison to other autosomal results

    I just got my Living DNA results! I am not sure if they are very accurate though since the North and West European as well as the British ancestry seem to be exaggerated...But still might be interesting to compare.
    My family is 50% from Epirus (area of Ioannina) and 25% each from Kephalonia and Kea. I did expect some degree of Italian and Slavic admixture (for general historical reasons regarding Greece and also for historical reasons more specifically related to Epirus and Kephalonia, at least) but I cannot imagine where the French/Germanic/ Scandinavian/British contribution comes from -?

    Just for the sake of comparison, below my Living DNA results I also post my 23andme, Ancestry DNA, MyHeritage and other results:

    Living DNA


    Europe 100%

    Europe (South) 73.4%

    Aegean 44.1%
    Tuscany 13.4%
    South Italy 12.3%
    North Italy 3.5%

    Europe (North and West) 12.2%

    France 8%
    Germanic 2.4%
    Scandinavia 1.8%

    Europe (East) 10%

    East Balkans 5.5%
    West Balkans 1.6%
    Pannonia 1.5%
    Northeast Europe 1.3%

    Great Britain and Ireland 4.5%
    England and Wales 4.5%



    My initial 23andme results were as follows:

    - 86 % Balkan (5 dots for Greece, 5 dots for Albania, 2 dots for Macedonia, 1 for Serbia, 1 for Croatia and 1 for Romania)
    - 9 % Italian
    - 0,4% Eastern European
    - 0,1 East Asian and Native American
    - rest: broadly Southern European and unassigned

    After the very recent update they changed to:
    - 85,8 Balkan (same dots)
    - 12,8 Italian
    - 0,1 South Asian (broadly SA)
    - 1,2 broadly Southern European

    My ancestry DNA results before the very recent update:

    - 71% Southern Europe (Italy and Greece)
    - 14% Eastern European
    - 5% Middle Eastern
    - 4% Caucasian
    - 2% British
    - 2% Western Europe
    - 1% European Jewish
    - <1% Iberian

    After the update:

    - 73% Greece and the Balkans
    - 27% Italy

    My MyHeritage results:

    [/U]92.1% Europe[/U]

    East Europe 44,6%

    44.6%
    Balkan

    South Europe
    41.9%

    Greek
    41.9%

    Ashkenazi Jewish
    5.6%

    Africa
    7.9%
    North Africa
    7.9%
    North African
    7.9%

    At FTDNA I am 100% Southeastern European.

    Also Geneplaza, DNA.land and Eurogenes K13 (Gedmatch):

    Geneplaza:

    EUROPEAN 100.0%
    SOUTHERN EUROPEAN 89.3%
    Greek-Albanian 45.5%
    Sicilian 43.8%
    Southwest European 0.0%
    EASTERN EUROPEAN 10.7%
    Eastern Slavic 10.7%
    Southern Slavic 0.0%
    Baltic 0.0%
    NORTHERN EUROPEAN 0.0%
    Northwest European 0.0%
    Scandinavian 0.0%
    ASIAN 0.0%
    SIBERIAN & AMERINDIAN 0.0%
    AFRICAN 0.0%
    Oceanian

    DNA.land

    West Eurasian 100%
    South European 94%
    Balkan 49%
    South/Central European 45%
    North Slavic 3.9%
    Ambiguous 1.5%
    Central Indoeuropean 1.1%


    This is my Eurogenes K13 Oracle:

    K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 East_Med 25.18
    2 West_Med 21.67
    3 Baltic 18.21
    4 North_Atlantic 16.97
    5 West_Asian 12.62
    6 Red_Sea 3.75
    7 East_Asian 1.20


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Greek_Thessaly @ 3.666719
    2 Central_Greek @ 9.449551
    3 Bulgarian @ 10.079420
    4 East_Sicilian @ 10.860690
    5 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.576796
    6 West_Sicilian @ 12.273549
    7 Romanian @ 13.143967
    8 Ashkenazi @ 13.440406
    9 Tuscan @ 13.884970
    10 South_Italian @ 14.375315
    11 Serbian @ 18.004507
    12 North_Italian @ 18.399658
    13 Algerian_Jewish @ 20.174377
    14 Italian_Jewish @ 20.796219
    15 Sephardic_Jewish @ 21.003513
    16 Moldavian @ 23.899855
    17 Tunisian_Jewish @ 24.682604
    18 Libyan_Jewish @ 24.937746
    19 Cyprian @ 26.493221
    20 Croatian @ 27.444063

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarian +50% Central_Greek @ 3.605400


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Bulgarian +25% Central_Greek +25% East_Sicilian @ 3.551438


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++
    1 Ashkenazi + Georgian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.652073
    2 Ashkenazi + Assyrian + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 2.689845
    3 Ashkenazi + Belorussian + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 2.898541
    4 Ashkenazi + Estonian_Polish + Georgian_Jewish + Sardinian @ 3.154184
    5 Ashkenazi + Kurdish_Jewish + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.164341
    6 Central_Greek + Kurdish_Jewish + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.260642
    7 Ashkenazi + Assyrian + Belorussian + Sardinian @ 3.278632
    8 Greek_Thessaly + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.278685
    9 Ashkenazi + Georgian_Jewish + Russian_Smolensk + Sardinian @ 3.314328
    10 Bulgarian + Lebanese_Druze + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.320706
    11 Greek_Thessaly + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.333169
    12 Central_Greek + Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.342300
    13 Bulgarian + Kurdish_Jewish + Sardinian + Southwest_Russian @ 3.371904
    14 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.372509
    15 Croatian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.382109
    16 Greek_Thessaly + Iranian_Jewish + Sardinian + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.387726
    17 Algerian_Jewish + Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Greek_Thessaly @ 3.395472
    18 Ashkenazi + Iranian_Jewish + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.397145
    19 Algerian_Jewish + Central_Greek + Central_Greek + Ukrainian @ 3.414869
    20 Assyrian + Central_Greek + Lithuanian + Sardinian @ 3.415889

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    it is nice that you score east slavic in gene plazza { slavic tribes in greece there is no way around it}
    about your living dna results generally speaking look logic
    thanks for sharing
    if you score { north atlantic , north sea , and french to some degree in eurogenes k36}?
    than living dna results reflect it well in there complete mode ......
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    Hi Adam! Do you mean that East Slavic admixture is something very typical for a Greek?
    Yes, the Living DNA results don't look bad, it is just that the North and Western European percentages seemed rather high to me.
    I will look up my K36 results and post them here too.
    Thanks for the input!
    Alexandra

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    These are my Eurogenes K36 results using my AncestryDNA data. The ones based on MyHeritage data are slightly different (all the percentages are slightly different)

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 1.28
    Armenian 3.55
    Basque 3.24
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 7.41
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 10.23
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 6.26
    East_Med 7.56
    Eastern_Euro 2.11
    Fennoscandian -
    French 0.81
    Iberian 4.90
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 21.55
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 13.25
    North_African 0.84
    North_Atlantic 1.97
    North_Caucasian 0.96
    North_Sea 3.77
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 0.76
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 3.44
    West_Med 6.07
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    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 1.40
    Armenian 3.46
    Basque 3.04
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 7.00
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 9.94
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 5.91
    East_Med 7.44
    Eastern_Euro 1.83
    Fennoscandian -
    French 0.69
    Iberian 5.70
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 23.03
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 12.29
    North_African 0.52
    North_Atlantic 1.23
    North_Caucasian 0.90
    North_Sea 3.79
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 1.60
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 4.16
    West_Med 6.05

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    Very interesting results! I made a thread with Middle Eastern and Mediterranean Living DNA results: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....for-Living-DNA

    You can compare yours to some of the other Mediterranean populations for reference. Living DNA's labels are a little weird, so don't take them too literally. I'll also add your results to the thread.

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    Thank you, Jonahst! I will take a look at the thread now. Greetings, A

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexandra_K View Post
    I just got my Living DNA results! I am not sure if they are very accurate
    From the results that I've seen, their assignments for East Europeans and specifically Southeast Europeans needs quite the improvement.

    In my case, I don't receive even 0.1% in the components that include Romanian references.

    They stated from the beginning that results will improve as they continue building on their calculator, but that's yet to happen.

    Europe 92.7%

    Europe (East) 45.1%

    Northeast Europe 32.7%
    Finland and Western Russia 4.8%
    Mordovia 4%
    Baltics 3.6%

    Europe (South) 29.4%

    Aegean 22.1%
    North Italy 3.8%
    South Italy 2%
    Tuscany 1.6%

    Europe (North and West) 9.4%

    France 9.4%

    Great Britain and Ireland 8.7%

    England and Wales 8.7%

    Near East 5.9%

    North Turkey 2.8%
    Kurdish 1.6%
    South Turkey 1.5%

    Asia (East) 1.4%

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    Thank you for sharing, Dorkymon! Yes, I also have the feeling that some improvement would be good although they are not completely irrational either.

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    I add here my Living DNA results in cautious mode. The "Europe North and West" and "Great Britain and Ireland" categories disappear in this mode. Maybe this could be a little closer to the truth? Again, I wonder what the large percentage of the Tuscany-related ancestry can account for? Italian ancestors at the side of my paternal family which comes from Kephalonia? Or a shared earlier ancestry with Italians?

    Europe 100%
    Europe (South) 44.1%
    Aegean 44.1%
    Tuscany-related ancestry 36%
    Northeast Europe-related ancestry 10%
    North Italy-related ancestry 3.5%
    Europe (unassigned) 6.3%

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