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Thread: new project for I-Z382+ YDNA Subclade

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    Quote Originally Posted by C J Wyatt III View Post
    After I got my Y-DNA results back, I took a chance on testing Z382 on advice from how I was grouped in the I1 Project. I then tested positive for Z2041 trying to advance myself further, but later they decided Z2041 was in front of Z382. Like I said in the other post, I took a chance with I-FGC24357 with YSEQ and was successful with that. I hope sometime in the coming months that I will be able to do Big-Y.


    My earliest known Wyatt ancestor is my 7th great grandfather William Wyatt, who was indentured in Barbados in 1659. Going back to England, I have a lot of Holcombe's in my Y-DNA results, and that line would lead back to Sir John de Holcombe who was knighted by Richard the Lion Hearted during the Third Crusade. The thought is that his Holcombe line was Norman.

    I am curious where our branches meet. It is probably more recent than a thousand years ago.


    Jack
    Like you, I went the YSEQ route and I got to A4577+. That's what my Big Y gave me when I tested this year too. Then shortly afterwards the Swedish cousin who you can see in my signature popped up. I think it's well worth testing and then waiting after any initial matches to see what comes along.
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    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Like you, I went the YSEQ route and I got to A4577+. That's what my Big Y gave me when I tested this year too. Then shortly afterwards the Swedish cousin who you can see in my signature popped up. I think it's well worth testing and then waiting after any initial matches to see what comes along.
    A couple of questions. I donít see A4577 on the FTDNA Y Tree underneath Z382. Iím curious about all of your snps down stream from Z382. For example after Z382 Iím S26361Ė>S16414->FGC24357.

    Did FTDNA assign you to a new subclade when you matched that Swedish person with a TMRCA of 1000 ybp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    A couple of questions. I donít see A4577 on the FTDNA Y Tree underneath Z382. Iím curious about all of your snps down stream from Z382. For example after Z382 Iím S26361Ė>S16414->FGC24357.

    Did FTDNA assign you to a new subclade when you matched that Swedish person with a TMRCA of 1000 ybp?
    Going by the FTDNA Haplotree, A4577 is in the Z140+ group. If I follow things correctly, CTS8647 is the first common SNP between us in Z382+ and JonikW.


    Jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by C J Wyatt III View Post
    Going by the FTDNA Haplotree, A4577 is in the Z140+ group. If I follow things correctly, CTS8647 is the first common SNP between us in Z382+ and JonikW.


    Jack
    Ah I see. Z59 would be the first common snp between us and him. Not sure why he joined the Z382 project if he is Z382 negative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwauthy View Post
    Ah I see. Z59 would be the first common snp between us and him. Not sure why he joined the Z382 project if he is Z382 negative?
    You're right guys, I'm not in your project but in the Z140 one. My posts here are purely in a spirit of I1 solidarity as I'm interested in the broader tree. For the record, my match and I have indeed formed a new twig within Z140. It's nice to help put the tree together so that those who come after us in coming years can benefit from a wider picture.
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    You're right guys, I'm not in your project but in the Z140 one. My posts here are purely in a spirit of I1 solidarity as I'm interested in the broader tree. For the record, my match and I have indeed formed a new twig within Z140. It's nice to help put the tree together so that those who come after us in coming years can benefit from a wider picture.
    Thanks for the clarification! I completely agree!

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