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    Weird flip

    I was assigned Mtdna haplogroup J1c2b by 23andMe, and I ran the raw data through James Lick's subclade predictor. Interestingly, I do not have a complete match to any haplogroup clade because there's a flip at the 15452 marker. There's supposed to be an A, and I have a T. And apparently it's far up the tree, as the first to have the mutation is R2'JT super-group. Is this strange? I have all the other J1c2b markers. I'm just wondering if anyone else has something like this, and also what would cause it.

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    Back mutations happen, maybe something like that happened with you. Are you classified as J1c2b, with the flip as a private/extra mutation?

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    Yeah, 23andMe, Wegene, and Lick all have me as J1c2b. I guess a mutation could happen, given that my great-great-grandmother, Nellie Ryan from County Waterford, had twelve children, of which half were daughters, and my great-grandmother Alice had ten daughters-no sons, just daughters. But my grandmother only had one daughter, my mother.

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