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    MDLP K23b

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 49.04
    2 Caucasian 28.57
    3 European_Early_Farmers 11.92
    4 Ancestral_Altaic 4.03
    5 Near_East 1.54
    6 South_Central_Asian 1.17
    7 South_Indian 1.01
    8 Amerindian 0.99
    9 Khoisan 0.44
    10 East_Siberian 0.32
    11 Subsaharian 0.29
    12 East_African 0.26
    13 Melano_Polynesian 0.17
    14 African_Pygmy 0.12
    15 Archaic_African 0.06
    16 Archaic_Human 0.05
    17 South_East_Asian 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Ukrainian_West ( ) 2.87
    2 Slovak ( ) 3.44
    3 Sorb ( ) 3.53
    4 Kashub ( ) 3.64
    5 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 4.8
    6 Belarusian_West ( ) 4.97
    7 Belarusian-East ( ) 4.97
    8 Czech ( ) 5.02
    9 Ukrainian_East ( ) 5.42
    10 Russian_South ( ) 5.74
    11 Russian-West ( ) 5.86
    12 Ukrainian ( ) 6.5
    13 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 6.54
    14 Russian_North ( ) 6.65
    15 Russian-North-West ( ) 6.69
    16 Don_cossack ( ) 6.99
    17 Hungarian ( ) 7.29
    18 Slovenian ( ) 7.44
    19 Pole ( ) 7.52
    20 Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) 7.76

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 83.2% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 16.8% Belgian ( ) @ 1.99
    2 83.3% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 16.7% Frisian ( ) @ 2.02
    3 85.8% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 14.2% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 2.05
    4 87.6% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 12.4% French ( ) @ 2.07
    5 86.3% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 13.7% English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) @ 2.11
    6 79.1% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 20.9% German-Volga ( ) @ 2.12
    7 86.8% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 13.2% British ( ) @ 2.16
    8 67.3% Russian-West ( ) + 32.7% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 2.17
    9 92.5% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 7.5% French_South ( ) @ 2.18
    10 94.9% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 5.1% Basque_French ( ) @ 2.19
    11 94.8% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 5.2% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 2.19
    12 94% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 6% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 2.2
    13 91.8% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 8.2% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 2.2
    14 91.8% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 8.2% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) @ 2.21
    15 84.4% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 15.6% Irish ( ) @ 2.23
    16 91.3% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 8.7% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) @ 2.24
    17 55.7% Balt ( ) + 44.3% Serb_Serbia ( ) @ 2.24
    18 71.6% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 28.4% Austrian ( ) @ 2.24
    19 91.6% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 8.4% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 2.25
    20 90.5% Ukrainian_Center ( ) + 9.5% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) @ 2.25

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Estonian_ +50% Serb_Serbia_ @ 2.320471


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Russian-West_ +25% Serb_Serbia_ +25% Sorb_ @ 2.317666


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 Croat_BH_ + Finn_West_ + Ukrainian_Center_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.270331
    2 Balt_ + Russian-West_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Slovak_ @ 2.275584
    3 Croat_ + Kashub_ + Russian-Upper-Volga_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.308575
    4 Balt_ + Belarusian-East_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Slovak_ @ 2.315310
    5 Russian-West_ + Russian-West_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Sorb_ @ 2.317666
    6 Estonian_ + Estonian_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Serb_Serbia_ @ 2.320471
    7 Belarusian-East_ + Russian-West_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Sorb_ @ 2.325362
    8 Austrian_ + Russian-West_ + Ukrainian_Center_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.329068
    9 Finn_West_ + Pole_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.337052
    10 Russian-North-West_ + Russian-West_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.341166
    11 Belarusian-East_ + Croat_BH_ + Finn_West_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.344864
    12 Belarusian_Russian_ + Finn_West_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.351864
    13 Belarusian-East_ + Croat_ + Kashub_ + Russian-Upper-Volga_ @ 2.360335
    14 Finn_West_ + Mixed_East_Slav_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.360410
    15 Austrian_ + Belarusian-East_ + Ukrainian_Center_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.363396
    16 Belarusian_West_ + Croat_BH_ + Finn_West_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.366314
    17 Croat_ + Finn_West_ + Ukrainian_Center_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.367570
    18 Russian-North-West_ + Russian-North-West_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.369357
    19 Estonian_ + Serb_Serbia_ + Slovak_ + Ukrainian_Center_ @ 2.369548
    20 Kashub_ + Russian-West_ + Russian-West_ + Serb_Serbia_ @ 2.370260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    For Europeans I guess Northeast is highest makes sense, do Asian populations get much higher or similar?

    In a second I will post MDLP K23b, I think is most detailed for Eurasian populations.
    It is easy enough to submit a few through the web runner:

    Asians_SiberianK10.png

    Many have high EHG with this model, though it probably is missing some components for modeling Asians since it is Euro-focused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    You mean WHG for Baltic countries?
    They get about 15% of WHG in average, but for example sample Latvia_HG:I4550 get 80% of WHG.

    No I meant which K10 Siberian :average or indiduals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    Why Basque has more, I heard Basque is distant I2 people, no?
    Haplogroups are irrelevant, but from what I understand Basque's neolithic ancestry has more WHG than everyone else in Europe, even if they have relatively low amounts of Steppe. Other Iberians would have similar numbers were it not for their additional eastern mediterranean ancestry that arrived since the late Bronze (I think)
    They are basically a relic from the Bronze or Iron ages that remained isolated in the Pyrenees or thereabouts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruderico View Post
    Haplogroups are irrelevant, but from what I understand Basque's neolithic ancestry has more WHG than everyone else in Europe, even if they have relatively low amounts of Steppe. Other Iberians would have similar numbers were it not for their additional eastern mediterranean ancestry that arrived since the late Bronze (I think)
    They are basically a relic from the Bronze or Iron ages that remained isolated in the Pyrenees or thereabouts
    I don't think regular Iberians will get significant HG not even trying to diss, Slavs have additional Eastern Mediterranean ancestry as you were mention for Iberians, but you can see we still have significantly more HG ancestry despite this.

    Basque are truly unique, to my understanding they are many haplogroup I2 who has seperated thousands years in the past from our Eastern European I2 and migrated west. They most likely retain more of their ancestral roots while being isolate in their migration. In the eye test Basque are usually taller than most Southern Europeans, and even their women can be very good at basketball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    I don't think regular Iberians will get significant HG not even trying to diss, Slavs have additional Eastern Mediterranean ancestry as you were mention for Iberians, but you can see we still have significantly more HG ancestry despite this.

    Slavs also have Steppe and CHG ancestry than Iberians, so I'm not sure it's a fair comparison
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    I don't think regular Iberians will get significant HG not even trying to diss, Slavs have additional Eastern Mediterranean ancestry as you were mention for Iberians, but you can see we still have significantly more HG ancestry despite this.

    Basque are truly unique, to my understanding they are many haplogroup I2 who has seperated thousands years in the past from our Eastern European I2 and migrated west. They most likely retain more of their ancestral roots while being isolate in their migration. In the eye test Basque are usually taller than most Southern Europeans, and even their women can be very good at basketball.
    Basques aren't the same as the other Iberians, for sure. But there are other Western Euros with significant WHG retained:

    EuroAtlanticSiberianK10.png

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