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Thread: mtDNA C in South Asia

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    Latest mtDNA matches from Genbank:

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    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    The Chitrali 1 I post gedmatch results of is C4a maternal.
    Last edited by soulblighter; 09-26-2015 at 05:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bol_nat View Post
    The Chitrali 1 I post gedmatch results of is C4a maternal.
    Do you know if they have FMS results?
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    Anybody know how to read the age estimates from the mtPhyl tool?
    for example, under 248delA<249delA (bottom right), what does 0.51(-0.07;1.11) mean?
    The variable is called M(Time)(Min 95% Time ; Max 95% Time) but I cannot find any documentation on what that means.
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    Last edited by soulblighter; 10-18-2015 at 02:08 AM.
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    So based on mtPhyl calculations in this file, my mtDNA split off from the Ukranian Genbank sample JX266260 about 4000 YBP!
    Both these samples split from the "Chinese" sample AY255174 about 4500 YBP, although I am not sure which part of China this sample is from.
    Finally, These three samples split from the South siberian mtDNA C4a1c samples (FJ951442, EU482322) about 6000 years ago.
    Last edited by soulblighter; 10-20-2015 at 01:47 PM.
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulblighter View Post
    Both these samples split from the "Chinese" sample AY255174 about 4500 YBP, although I am not sure which part of China this sample is from.
    The identifier for AY255174, XJ8435, indicates that the sequence was from Xinjiang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gisele H View Post
    The identifier for AY255174, XJ8435, indicates that the sequence was from Xinjiang.
    Cool! I wonder if this indicates the migration of mtDNA C4a1 during a major event in the steppe (climate change?)ending up eventually in Xinjiang, South India and Ukraine or any of the others after! The time line with an average of 4500 YBP when they were together probably places them somewhere in the south siberian steppe? I wish I had many more similar sequences to drill down on the timeline....
    Last edited by soulblighter; 10-24-2015 at 07:36 PM.
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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    Hi Soulblighter! I'm C4a1 too...

    Quote Originally Posted by soulblighter View Post
    C4a1( with no defined subgroup) is all over the place from Ukraine to south Siberia, including the steppe. The only exact HVR1 and HVR2 match for my sample so far is Kyrgyz.
    I just found out at 23andMe that my mtDNA group is C4a1. I was born in Delhi and belong to a Punjabi family (both paternal and maternal). I wanted to reach out to you and get some help in tracing my maternal line.

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    Updated tree including C4a1 samples from Pamir.

    To calculate TMRCA, multiply the M value by 7884 years.

    For example, TMRCA to C4a1 = 7884*2.9 years (95% confidence interval range gives 7884* 1.4 to 7884 * 4.3)
    Paternal YDNA: G-P303+ -> G-Z30522+
    Paternal mtDNA: U7a3b1
    Maternal YDNA: R-Z2123+ -> R-YP526+
    Maternal mtDNA: C4a1 (T195C!)

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