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    No british/Irish ancestors but you have % with Livingdna: post your results!

    The goal is to make a correlation between the regions of the British Isles and the European continent.
    If you don't have British or Irish ancestor, but Living DNA gives you a fairly high percentage (> 10%) then please post your full results here in complete mode.

    Then, I will make a percentage of only your results from the Islands.
    Here are 4 examples:
    3 French: two from the west, and one from the east
    1 polish

    Attachment 24830
    Y haplogroup: R1b: L21 --> DF13 --> BY145002
    The oldest L21 known are I2457 et I2565 from Stonehenge (Beaker Culture, 2400-1900 BC)

    MTDNA: U4c1
    The oldest U4c1 known are "poz224", Yamnaya culture (2882-2698 BC), and 2 Bell-Beaker in Germany (Karsdorf, 2314-2042 BC)

    Paternal MTDNA: K1b2b
    The oldest K1b2 are Eastern European Mesolithic: Kunda Donkalnis5 (Lithuania), 6000 BC and Meso-Ene Lepenski Vir Lepe28 in Serbia, 5900 BC.
    The oldest K1b2b is Alt-3, Corded-Ware Germany (2500 BC)

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    Good idea Tolan.
    Am I the eastern french? Results seems reflect mines. If not, I can send you my british's results.
    K47
    5.69% N-Iber; 10.20 E-Iber; 0.42% N-Afr; 5.42% S-Cauc; 1.43% N-Cauc; 4.81% E-Med; 5.54% E-Euro;2.26% Andean; 2.42% Volga; 8.55 N-Sea Germanic; 10.72 Celtic; 5.35% W-Finn; 0.24% NW-India; 14.65% Scando-Germanic; 1.68% Iranic; 2% Balt; 0.95% Meso-Am; 9.96% W-Med; 7.71% C-Med

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    Barcin 49; Yamnaya_Samara 38.2; WHG 10.6; Clovis 2.2

    MDLP K16
    German 5.57; French (NW) 5.69; French (E) 5.97; Spanish 6.02; French (FR) 6.41

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arnfried View Post
    Good idea Tolan.
    Am I the eastern french? Results seems reflect mines. If not, I can send you my british's results.
    yes, these are yours, there is also Tomenable and me
    Y haplogroup: R1b: L21 --> DF13 --> BY145002
    The oldest L21 known are I2457 et I2565 from Stonehenge (Beaker Culture, 2400-1900 BC)

    MTDNA: U4c1
    The oldest U4c1 known are "poz224", Yamnaya culture (2882-2698 BC), and 2 Bell-Beaker in Germany (Karsdorf, 2314-2042 BC)

    Paternal MTDNA: K1b2b
    The oldest K1b2 are Eastern European Mesolithic: Kunda Donkalnis5 (Lithuania), 6000 BC and Meso-Ene Lepenski Vir Lepe28 in Serbia, 5900 BC.
    The oldest K1b2b is Alt-3, Corded-Ware Germany (2500 BC)

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    This is an ambitious task! Good luck!

    Also, two NW French get 12% Irish but I get none at ~40% Irish ancestry. This suggests you have quite a ball of string to untangle.
    Last edited by Capitalis; 07-26-2018 at 10:15 AM.

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    Some additional results ...
    If you don't have British or Irish ancestor, but Living DNA gives you a fairly high percentage (> 10%) then please post your full results here in complete mode.

    Attachment 26764

    Here is an attempt at synthesis very fragile, given the few results taken into account

    For those who are not British, Irish or Scottish:

    SE England: seems to be rather continental like northern France
    SC England: seems to be more associated with Atlantic Europe
    South Wales: seems to be more Germanic
    East Anglia: seems to be more Germanic
    Ireland: Brittany but non-Briton?
    Last edited by Tolan; 10-17-2018 at 12:51 PM.
    Y haplogroup: R1b: L21 --> DF13 --> BY145002
    The oldest L21 known are I2457 et I2565 from Stonehenge (Beaker Culture, 2400-1900 BC)

    MTDNA: U4c1
    The oldest U4c1 known are "poz224", Yamnaya culture (2882-2698 BC), and 2 Bell-Beaker in Germany (Karsdorf, 2314-2042 BC)

    Paternal MTDNA: K1b2b
    The oldest K1b2 are Eastern European Mesolithic: Kunda Donkalnis5 (Lithuania), 6000 BC and Meso-Ene Lepenski Vir Lepe28 in Serbia, 5900 BC.
    The oldest K1b2b is Alt-3, Corded-Ware Germany (2500 BC)

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    Duplicate...
    Last edited by Tolan; 10-17-2018 at 12:47 PM.
    Y haplogroup: R1b: L21 --> DF13 --> BY145002
    The oldest L21 known are I2457 et I2565 from Stonehenge (Beaker Culture, 2400-1900 BC)

    MTDNA: U4c1
    The oldest U4c1 known are "poz224", Yamnaya culture (2882-2698 BC), and 2 Bell-Beaker in Germany (Karsdorf, 2314-2042 BC)

    Paternal MTDNA: K1b2b
    The oldest K1b2 are Eastern European Mesolithic: Kunda Donkalnis5 (Lithuania), 6000 BC and Meso-Ene Lepenski Vir Lepe28 in Serbia, 5900 BC.
    The oldest K1b2b is Alt-3, Corded-Ware Germany (2500 BC)

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    Europe 98.8%

    Europe (North and West) 39.4%
    Germanic 39.4%

    Great Britain and Ireland 34.9%
    Southeast England 6.1%
    South England 5.3%
    Lincolnshire 5%
    North Yorkshire 4.2%
    Central England 3.9%
    East Anglia 2.9%
    South Central England 2.9%
    Northumbria 1.9%
    South Wales Border 1.6%
    Aberdeenshire 1.1%

    Europe (South) 23%
    Tuscany 23%

    Europe (East) 1.5%
    Mordovia 1.5%

    Near East 1.2%
    Arabia 1.2%

    My paper trail ancestry is almost entirely within Baden-Wuerttemberg and this is also where I live, but I am pulled southwards by the Italian in most PCAs.
    The test is about 14 months old now.

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    I think they are wrong with these English genetic references. They force its. All my ancestors up to grade 5-6 are from a small area in southern Romania, but... they attributed me 8.7% England and even 10% NW Europe!
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    Dad cannot be more than 50% British by ancestry, if anything, there are Germans on his British (mother's) side.
    His father's side is mostly SW. German (South Hesse, Rhineland, B-W and Bavaria), with some Belgian and Ashkenazi (no known Italian), nevertheless:

    Great Britain and Ireland 71.1%
    Southeast England 20.6%
    East Anglia 13.6%
    Lincolnshire 12.2%
    South Central England 9.5%
    South Yorkshire 4.7%
    Cumbria 2.4%
    Northwest Scotland 2.4%
    Devon 2.3%
    Cornwall 2.2%
    North Yorkshire 1.2%

    Europe (South) 14.3%
    North Italy 11.1%
    Aegean 3.2%

    Europe (North and West) 8.2%
    Scandinavia 8.2%

    Europe (East) 6.4%
    West Balkans 2.6%
    East Balkans 2%
    Finland and Western Russia 1.8%
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tolan View Post
    Some additional results ...
    If you don't have British or Irish ancestor, but Living DNA gives you a fairly high percentage (> 10%) then please post your full results here in complete mode.

    Attachment 26764

    Here is an attempt at synthesis very fragile, given the few results taken into account

    For those who are not British, Irish or Scottish:

    SE England: seems to be rather continental like northern France
    SC England: seems to be more associated with Atlantic Europe
    South Wales: seems to be more Germanic
    East Anglia: seems to be more Germanic
    Ireland: Brittany but non-Briton?
    Quote Originally Posted by Nive1526 View Post
    Europe 98.8%

    Europe (North and West) 39.4%
    Germanic 39.4%

    Great Britain and Ireland 34.9%
    Southeast England 6.1%
    South England 5.3%
    Lincolnshire 5%
    North Yorkshire 4.2%
    Central England 3.9%
    East Anglia 2.9%
    South Central England 2.9%
    Northumbria 1.9%
    South Wales Border 1.6%
    Aberdeenshire 1.1%

    Europe (South) 23%
    Tuscany 23%

    Europe (East) 1.5%
    Mordovia 1.5%

    Near East 1.2%
    Arabia 1.2%

    My paper trail ancestry is almost entirely within Baden-Wuerttemberg and this is also where I live, but I am pulled southwards by the Italian in most PCAs.
    The test is about 14 months old now.
    I wonder if Lincolnshire might also be a possible indicator...
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>BY44243

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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