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    Question Haplogroup H1e anyone?

    Hello everyone! I'm new here my mtDNA is H1e and my maternal lineage is from Calabria, Southern Italy. I'd be curious to see if there are some people who share this haplogroup H1e? If yes, where are you from?

    Do you have more informations about this haplogroup?

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    I'm H1e and maternally Sephardic Jewish from Turkey. Not too sure if I share the same mutations with Moroccan Jews who have this mtDNA. An Ashkenazi Jew who ran a H1e project told me I don't quite have the same mutation as other Ashkenazi Jews with H1e.

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    Thanks for your message Seabass. It's interesting! I've seen many Spaniards, Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews with the haplogroup H1e... I noticed that H1e is not common amongst Calabrese. I don't really know where it comes from originally maybe Spain? I've heard about the Moroccan Jews it seems that H1e is a typical subclade. Can you tell me more about that Ashkenazi person with that H1e project I would be very interested?
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    I have thee feeling that H1e is rather common in Europe:
    https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml
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    Yes, this haplogroup is mostly found in Europe. Thanks for the link. I have also seen many Spaniards and Portuguese with it, sometimes it's found in Northern Europe like Germany, but I still can not explain why so many Jews have this haplogroup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guba View Post
    Do you have more informations about this haplogroup?
    You download your mitochondrial file off 23andme or deCODEme if you used them and upload it here below:

    https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

    My results below. My mutations didn't match any Southern Europeans or Ashkenazi Jews from memory. Wasn't able to rule out Moroccan Jews in the past when I tried this.

    Found 2128 markers at 2006 positions covering 12.1% of mtDNA.


    Markers found (shown as differences to rCRS):

    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 5177A 5460A 15326G
    HVR1: (16519C)

    IMPORTANT NOTE: The above marker list is almost certainly incomplete due to limitations of genotyping technology and is not comparable to mtDNA sequencing results. It should not be used with services or tools that expect sequencing results, such as mitosearch.


    Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

    1) H1e

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1e:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 5460A 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1e (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 5460A ⇨ H1e ⇨ 5177A (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(7): 263G 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 5460A 15326G
    Extras(1): 5177A (16519C)
    Untested(1): 8860

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seabass View Post
    You download your mitochondrial file off 23andme or deCODEme if you used them and upload it here below:

    https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/

    My results below. My mutations didn't match any Southern Europeans or Ashkenazi Jews from memory. Wasn't able to rule out Moroccan Jews in the past when I tried this.

    Thank you for the link , here are my results which look a lot like yours except for a few changes :

    Found 3270 markers at 3268 positions covering 19.7% of mtDNA.
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 5460A 8860G
    HVR1: (16519C)

    IMPORTANT NOTE: The above marker list is almost certainly incomplete due to limitations of genotyping technology and is not comparable to mtDNA sequencing results. It should not be used with services or tools that expect sequencing results, such as mitosearch.


    Best mtDNA Haplogroup Matches:

    1) H1e

    Defining Markers for haplogroup H1e:
    HVR2: 263G
    CR: 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 5460A 8860G 15326G
    HVR1:

    Marker path from rCRS to haplogroup H1e (plus extra markers):
    H2a2a1(rCRS) ⇨ 263G ⇨ H2a2a ⇨ 8860G 15326G ⇨ H2a2 ⇨ 750G ⇨ H2a ⇨ 4769G ⇨ H2 ⇨ 1438G ⇨ H ⇨ 3010A ⇨ H1 ⇨ 5460A ⇨ H1e ⇨ (16519C)

    Imperfect Match. Your results contained differences with this haplogroup:
    Matches(7): 263G 750G 1438G 3010A 4769G 5460A 8860G
    Extras(0): (16519C)
    Untested(1): 15326

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    I have mtdna H1e, my direct maternal ancestry is from lower Saxony near the Oste river. From what I've seen anecdotally H1e seems to be most common among Germans, Italians and Sephardic Jews.

    In terms of ancient dna H1e has become rather well documented in recent years. I think the oldest evidence we have of H1e so far are among neolithic farmers from Germany so it was probably originally from the near east and spread through out Europe early on in the neolithic. Just a few days ago I saw a study that found a presence of H1e in the Polish Corded Ware from around 2500bc and the Babyno culture of Ukraine around 1800bc. It's also been found in Poland later on in the Weilbark Culture and among the Lombard graves in Roman Pannonia to an individual of mixed southern and north European ancestry. And this is just what I can remember off the top of my head, there are likely more examples.

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    I am ashkenazi H1e. It seems someone converted to Judaism with this Mt haplogroup.
    I haven't read anything definitive, but it might have come into the Jewish people from Rome, Spain, Basque. Over 1-2k years ago, possibly.
    I would like to know too where and when this woman became Jewish and if it was just one or more women with this haplogroup.

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    I have also read that because H1e is a highly polymorphic mutation, there could be a few founding h1e's.it might not be one person.
    So the ashkenazi H1e could have been one of Jacob's wives (from biblical times) or a convert from southern Europe. Who knows! Id like to learn more.

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