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    I used my Dante results to make a V5 kit with WGSExtract. I actually tested on LivingDNA and on 23andMe V3:

    V3:

    Population
    S-Indian 37.07 Pct
    Baloch 34.85 Pct
    Caucasian 10.75 Pct
    NE-Euro 9.51 Pct
    SE-Asian 0.12 Pct
    Siberian 1.55 Pct
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan 0.85 Pct
    American 1.05 Pct
    Beringian 1.78 Pct
    Mediterranean 1.24 Pct
    SW-Asian 1.23 Pct
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African -

    V5:

    Population
    S-Indian 35.95 Pct
    Baloch 35.13 Pct
    Caucasian 11.44 Pct
    NE-Euro 10.52 Pct
    SE-Asian -
    Siberian 1.03 Pct
    NE-Asian 0.89 Pct
    Papuan 1.22 Pct
    American 1.71 Pct
    Beringian 1.35 Pct
    Mediterranean -
    SW-Asian 0.41 Pct
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy 0.35 Pct
    W-African -

    LivingDNA:

    Population
    S-Indian 37.24 Pct
    Baloch 34.30 Pct
    Caucasian 10.37 Pct
    NE-Euro 9.34 Pct
    SE-Asian -
    Siberian 1.61 Pct
    NE-Asian 0.22 Pct
    Papuan 0.94 Pct
    American 0.88 Pct
    Beringian 1.74 Pct
    Mediterranean 1.31 Pct
    SW-Asian 1.84 Pct
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy 0.22 Pct
    W-African -
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494*) (FTDNA Kit 311047) (YFull: YF68408), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29*) (FTDNA Kit 329181) (YFull: YF65256))

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    For comparison:

    Dante WGS 30X (186764 SNPs):

    Population
    S-Indian 36.91 Pct
    Baloch 34.68 Pct
    Caucasian 10.91 Pct
    NE-Euro 9.51 Pct
    SE-Asian 0.12 Pct
    Siberian 1.62 Pct
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan 0.90 Pct
    American 1.03 Pct
    Beringian 1.76 Pct
    Mediterranean 1.29 Pct
    SW-Asian 1.26 Pct
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African -

    V3+FTDNAFF+LivingDNA+Geno2 (185316 SNPs):

    Population
    S-Indian 36.96 Pct
    Baloch 34.78 Pct
    Caucasian 10.66 Pct
    NE-Euro 9.62 Pct
    SE-Asian 0.18 Pct
    Siberian 1.61 Pct
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan 0.87 Pct
    American 1.00 Pct
    Beringian 1.74 Pct
    Mediterranean 1.30 Pct
    SW-Asian 1.27 Pct
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African -

    EDIT:

    There were always a few SNPs left over because every kit, even Dante, had some missing SNPs. To get every last SNP, I combined all my kits and ran DIYDodecadWin. It was picking up a couple SNPs from each kit to complete the whole thing.

    That's 23andMe V3, FTDNA FF (old one 2016-2019), LivingDNA (12/2019), Geno 2.0 (old one with ~150k SNPs), Full Genomes Corp (I had a ~250k SNP file of autosomal data left over from my Y Elite/Prime order), Dante Labs WGS 30X (the 'Combined Kits' and '23andMe API SNPs' options in WGSExtractBeta). Total is 2,156,232 SNPs.

    So, this is 100% genotyping rate, zero SNPs missing in DIYDodecadWin:

    36.79% S-Indian
    34.80% Baloch
    10.59% Caucasian
    9.49% NE-Euro
    0.18% SE-Asian
    1.46% Siberian
    0.02% NE-Asian
    0.93% Papuan
    0.99% American
    1.77% Beringian
    1.47% Mediterranean
    1.53% SW-Asian
    0.00% San
    0.00% E-African
    0.00% Pygmy
    0.00% W-African

    4-Ancestors Oracle:

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 north-kannadi+punjabi-jatt-sikh+punjabi-jatt-sikh+pashtun-uthmankhel @ 1.181724
    2 hakkipikki+haryana-jatt+punjabi-jatt-muslim+nuristani @ 1.183359
    3 bhil+punjabi-jatt-muslim+punjabi-jatt-sikh+pashtun-uthmankhel @ 1.188362
    4 chamar+punjabi-jatt-muslim+punjabi-jatt-sikh+pashtun-uthmankhel @ 1.202325
    5 hakkipikki+haryana-jatt+kalash+punjabi-jatt-muslim @ 1.210486

    It's not being tokenized on gedmatch though, might be too big.

    EDIT again: Got tokenized but one randomly loses a bunch of SNPs after tokenization. I uploaded another attempt which got through, mostly. That one's Gedmatch Harappa:

    (186768 SNPs)

    Population
    S-Indian 36.85 Pct
    Baloch 34.70 Pct
    Caucasian 10.69 Pct
    NE-Euro 9.63 Pct
    SE-Asian 0.16 Pct
    Siberian 1.65 Pct
    NE-Asian -
    Papuan 0.87 Pct
    American 1.02 Pct
    Beringian 1.74 Pct
    Mediterranean 1.36 Pct
    SW-Asian 1.33 Pct
    San -
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African -

    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++
    1 haryana-jatt_harappa + kalash_hgdp + north-kannadi_chaubey + punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 1.123203
    2 hakkipikki_metspalu + haryana-jatt_harappa + kalash_hgdp + punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 1.166674
    3 haryana-jatt_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kurumba_reich + punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 1.176687
    4 hakkipikki_metspalu + haryana-jatt_harappa + kalash_hgdp + punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 1.178176
    5 hakkipikki_metspalu + haryana-jatt_harappa + kalash_hgdp + pushtikar-brahmin_harappa @ 1.218471
    6 haryana-jatt_harappa + kalash_hgdp + kurumba_reich + punjabi-jatt-muslim_harappa @ 1.305389
    7 haryana-jatt_harappa + north-kannadi_chaubey + pathan_hgdp + punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 1.308008

    I think it's something with LivingDNA's raw data. Davidski also said their raw data was weird and giving him problems, and people had to use Excel to fix it. Not sure what it is.
    Last edited by Dr_McNinja; 02-09-2020 at 10:00 PM.
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494*) (FTDNA Kit 311047) (YFull: YF68408), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29*) (FTDNA Kit 329181) (YFull: YF65256))

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    85% South Asian

    5% Central Asian
    5% West Asian
    5% Balkan

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    MyHeritage tests on the GSA chip similar to FTDNA but there's small differences. Nonetheless, a transfer from Family Finder V3 (after March-April of 2019) gives the closest results to MyHeritage's own chip (and their stuff is sequenced by FTDNA's lab anyway).

    For a comparison of autosomal testing companies, here are a few of mine:

    Code:
    DanteLabs-9999,36.93,34.68,10.90,9.49,0.09,1.67,0.01,0.89,1.07,1.65,1.29,1.34,0,0,0,0
    MyHeritageV1-OldChip,36.95,34.78,10.80,9.47,0.09,1.61,0.01,0.90,1.12,1.71,1.26,1.30,0,0,0,0
    FTDNAV3+LivingDNA+FTDNAV3Imputed,36.78,34.51,10.79,9.64,0.32,1.48,0.02,0.79,1.21,1.53,1.29,1.37,0.00,0.00,0.12,0.15
    FTDNAV3+LivingDNA,37.11,34.31,11.20,9.29,0.02,1.60,0.03,1.08,1.08,1.63,1.17,1.32,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.00
    FTDNAV3Imputed,36.79,34.48,10.68,9.63,0.39,1.54,0.02,0.79,1.33,1.62,1.12,1.30,0,0,0.14,0.19
    FTDNAV3,36.65,35.13,12.62,9.1,0,1.6,0,0.91,1.45,1.56,0.35,0.25,0,0.07,0.31,0
    LivingDNA-Current,37.32,34.32,10.41,9.16,0.04,1.61,0.10,0.99,0.96,1.73,1.43,1.71,0,0,0.22,0
    23andMeV3,37.09,34.88,10.77,9.51,0.10,1.62,0.01,0.84,1.01,1.71,1.24,1.21,0,0,0,0
    FTDNAV2-OldChip,37.09,34.88,10.77,9.51,0.10,1.62,0.01,0.84,1.01,1.71,1.24,1.21,0,0,0,0
    23andMeV5,35.97,35.16,11.42,10.47,0.01,1.01,0.87,1.23,1.71,1.35,0.02,0.42,0,0.01,0.34,0
    23andMeV4,36.89,34.97,10.84,9.41,0.27,1.57,0.02,0.84,0.82,1.79,1.12,1.45,0,0,0,0
    
    
    Distance to:	DanteLabs-9999
    0.18193405	MyHeritageV1-OldChip
    0.33852622	23andMeV3
    0.33852622	FTDNAV2-OldChip
    0.50685304	FTDNAV3+LivingDNA+FTDNAV3Imputed
    0.51361464	23andMeV4
    0.62433965	FTDNAV3+LivingDNA
    0.63190189	FTDNAV3Imputed
    0.93717661	LivingDNA-Current
    2.39376273	FTDNAV3
    2.59896133	23andMeV5
    
    Distance to:	23andMeV3
    0.00000000	FTDNAV2-OldChip
    0.23769729	MyHeritageV1-OldChip
    0.33852622	DanteLabs-9999
    0.45716518	23andMeV4
    0.67697858	FTDNAV3+LivingDNA+FTDNAV3Imputed
    0.74451326	FTDNAV3Imputed
    0.82498485	FTDNAV3+LivingDNA
    0.99513818	LivingDNA-Current
    2.42752961	FTDNAV3
    2.60702896	23andMeV5
    FTDNAV3 is interchangeable with MyHeritageV2 (current MyHeritage testing platform) in that list.

    It appears the best way to get a decent overlap with Gedmatch calculators today is to combine kits from either Family Tree DNA or MyHeritage with LivingDNA and then with an imputed VCF of the former data (FTDNA or MH) from DNA.Land (doesn't accept LivingDNA at the moment). Without the imputed data that's around 75%.
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494*) (FTDNA Kit 311047) (YFull: YF68408), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29*) (FTDNA Kit 329181) (YFull: YF65256))

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    So if you're uploading your raw data from another platform to MyHeritage, you want to upload it in Family Tree DNA Family Finder V3 format so your results would match what you would get if you took MyHeritage's own DNA test. That FTDNA platform is called V1.1 or V2 in DNA Kit Studio 2.8 (whichever is the newest one in the selection). You can use your autosomal data from a WGS test or an imputed VCF from a site like DNA.Land in DNA Kit Studio to make the compatible file (WGS Extract Beta should allow you to make the V3 format autosomal file directly from the BAM, avoiding the need for DNA Kit Studio). You might have to tinker with the Sort by Position vs. Sort by RSID settings to get MyHeritage to take it. I even pasted some empty fields from the beginning of an actual Family Finder V3 raw data file into the beginning of the DNA Kit Studio generated file to make sure it would be accepted. Not sure if that made a difference or not. But I finally did get it to accept a FF V3 format file made using a DNA.Land imputed VCF of a 23andMe V5 test.

    I think you could just upload that directly to FTDNA for autosomal transfer as well (might recognize it as MyHeritage?), but not sure anyone gives a damn about their current version of myOrigins, lol. I guess if v3.0 is popular?

    Also, to add to the previous post: Ancestry DNA is still using the old Illumina Express type chip I think and has very good overlap with Gedmatch and old calculators. It's a saliva test like 23andMe's. If you need to take a test, that should be the #1 choice if the price isn't an issue (the other companies drop their prices to as low as $50 often). LivingDNA is next with 60-70% overlap. Then the FTDNA/MH tests at ~38-40% and then last 23andMe V5 at ~28-30%.
    Last edited by Dr_McNinja; 07-29-2020 at 03:02 PM.
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494*) (FTDNA Kit 311047) (YFull: YF68408), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29*) (FTDNA Kit 329181) (YFull: YF65256))

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_McNinja View Post
    So if you're uploading your raw data from another platform to MyHeritage, you want to upload it in Family Tree DNA Family Finder V3 format so your results would match what you would get if you took MyHeritage's own DNA test. That FTDNA platform is called V1.1 or V2 in DNA Kit Studio 2.8 (whichever is the newest one in the selection). You can use your autosomal data from a WGS test or an imputed VCF from a site like DNA.Land in DNA Kit Studio to make the compatible file (WGS Extract Beta should allow you to make the V3 format autosomal file directly from the BAM, avoiding the need for DNA Kit Studio). You might have to tinker with the Sort by Position vs. Sort by RSID settings to get MyHeritage to take it. I even pasted some empty fields from the beginning of an actual Family Finder V3 raw data file into the beginning of the DNA Kit Studio generated file to make sure it would be accepted. Not sure if that made a difference or not. But I finally did get it to accept a FF V3 format file made using a DNA.Land imputed VCF of a 23andMe V5 test.

    I think you could just upload that directly to FTDNA for autosomal transfer as well (might recognize it as MyHeritage?), but not sure anyone gives a damn about their current version of myOrigins, lol. I guess if v3.0 is popular?

    Also, to add to the previous post: Ancestry DNA is still using the old Illumina Express type chip I think and has very good overlap with Gedmatch and old calculators. It's a saliva test like 23andMe's. If you need to take a test, that should be the #1 choice if the price isn't an issue (the other companies drop their prices to as low as $50 often). LivingDNA is next with 60-70% overlap. Then the FTDNA/MH tests at ~38-40% and then last 23andMe V5 at ~28-30%.
    My heritage ancestry feature used to be free for transfer, now they charge money for ancestry composition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyDLuffy View Post
    My heritage ancestry feature used to be free for transfer, now they charge money for ancestry composition.
    Oh yeah, then probably not worth it, might as well get their DNA test. I subscribe to the site through one of their plans so I continue to get ethnicity estimate results for all transfers. I re-uploaded some of my relatives using this method just to see how it works (originally a combined kit which should have had enough data for FTDNAV3, and then later just imputed kits from 23andMe V4/V5). I guess some people may really want to do a transfer to MH and pay for it, so this may be helpful for them.
    Paternal - Y-DNA: J2b2* (J-M241) Z2432+ Z2433+ Y978+ (J2b2a2b1*) (Hidden Content ) (YFull: YF02959) (FTDNA Kit B6225), mtDNA: M18a* (FTDNA Kit 329180) (YFull: YF63773)
    Maternal- Y-DNA: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2d5a* L657+ Y7+ (R-Y16494*) (FTDNA Kit 311047) (YFull: YF68408), mtDNA: Hidden Content (FTDNA Kit B6225) (YFull: YF02959) (Mother's Mother's Father: R1a1a1b2a1a2c2* Y7+ Y29+ (R-Y29*) (FTDNA Kit 329181) (YFull: YF65256))

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