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    Paper trail and DNA results sort of match general terms as far as picking up the ethnic groups, but i think the geographic areas involved in the DNA testing themselves are not particularly precise. Most of my great grandparents were the immigrants.

    Dad's side:
    GGrandfather northern England
    GGrandmother southern Wales

    Great grandfather northern Germany (Mecklinburg-Schwerin)
    Great grandmother Bavaria

    Mom's side

    Great grandfather -born here but parents were immigrants from Norway and Sweden
    Great grandmother-Norway

    Greatgrandfather--parents were German Jews from near the border with Poland
    Great grandmother--British colonial line, one 2x great family from Sussex included.

    23andme:

    Scandinavian
    Norway
    24.0%


    British & Irish
    21.1%
    United Kingdom

    Ashkenazi Jewish
    11.8%

    French & German
    Netherlands
    2.4%

    Eastern European
    1.3%
    Poland

    Finnish
    0.4%

    Broadly Northwestern European
    34.4%

    Broadly European
    4.5

    I would have thought there would be more German/French, and not sure why no Swedish, but on the whole I think they agree.
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    I think I'm going to make a spreadsheet, looking at these fancy spreadsheets posted here Mine is going to be a bit boring though :p Just 2 ethnicities.
    Mc Donald:
    Most likely fit is 62.4% (+- 9.5%) Europe (various subcontinents)
    and 37.6% (+- 9.5%) Mideast (various subcontinents)
    Dodecad World9:
    1 50% S_Italian_Sicilian +50% Dutch @ 1.083
    2 50% German +50% S_Italian @ 1.126
    3 50% Dutch +50% S_Italian @ 1.148

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    I forget the exact percentages now, but I think it is something like 60% English, 25% Irish, 15% German. Probably within that is something like 2% Dutch?

    My father is about 95% English or more with the rest being Dutch while my mother is something like 60% Irish, 35% German, maybe 5% English. There is more minor Scottish, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, and Northeastern French/Walloon in my tree further back (18th century) but via admixture most of that is mixed away.

    That said my direct paternal line is from Scotland and my mother's father's line is German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    I forget the exact percentages now, but I think it is something like 60% English, 25% Irish, 15% German. Probably within that is something like 2% Dutch?

    My father is about 95% English or more with the rest being Dutch while my mother is something like 60% Irish, 35% German, maybe 5% English. There is more minor Scottish, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, and Northeastern French/Walloon in my tree further back (18th century) but via admixture most of that is mixed away.

    That said my direct paternal line is from Scotland and my mother's father's line is German.
    I always assumed you had recent significant ancestry from Scotland due to your obvious passion for it, and your first flag is Scotland's. So I am curious how did the passion for Scotland rather than say Ireland arise again? It does seem to capture the hearts of so many people around the world even without British ancestry of any sort.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English (possibly containing some Welsh ancestry) 31.25%, Eastern European and Eastern German (Galicia, Poland) 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, French 8.2%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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    Paper trail is 100% German,though one grandparent was an orphan so not too much is known about the specifics on that side. but from all I know that is all German, too. At least within the last 100 years. Don't know much at all about any of it prior to mid 19th century though.

    Interestingly enough, neither AncestryDNA's initial results, MyHeritage or DNA.Land picked up on me being so heavily German. AncestryDNA's update mostly nailed it though. Meanwhile MyHeritage still thinks I'm English with some Balkans and Finnish added...hence why I cringe every time I see a Youtube video where someone used MyHeritage and then goes on their big 'My whole life I lived a lie' shtick.

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    My Chandler line is "supposed" to come from a viking who entered Normandy with Rollo. I can only 100% prove it back to 1595 England with DNA and paperwork. The ancestor "should be" connected to a Gilbert Frille who was Chaundeler of Kyngston upon the Thames in the late 1200's. The only surnames I match genetically are Kingston and a single Hamilton (who is supposed to be a Kingston). The SNP separation seems to fall between about 1050 to 1250 AD for my surname and the Kingston surname. These are the only names I match within ~3,500 years so far. The most prominent Frille surname in Denmark is now thought to be extinct. Who knows though for sure without a proper paper trail all sorts of things happen to break a line. The most likely source of my Y line pre Roman period is close to the Antonine Wall IMO.

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    Thank you all for your replies! It has been interesting reading through each and every one!

    I was inspired to continue.. so I figured out my grandparents' ethnicities based on paper trail, too!

    Paternal Grandfather:
    50% German
    25% Unknown
    12.5% Belgian
    12.5% French

    Paternal Grandmother:
    62.5% Dutch
    25% German
    12.5% Colonial American (Irish, English, Welsh)

    Maternal Grandfather:
    75% German
    25% Swiss

    Maternal Grandmother:
    100% German
    Ethnicity via Paper Trail (Rounded): 63% German, 16% Dutch, 6% Swiss, 6% Unknown, 3% Belgian, 3% French, 3% Colonial American (Irish, English, Welsh).

    Ancestry DNA Results: 64% Germanic Europe, 22% England/Wales/Northwest Europe, 6% Norway, 3% Baltic, 3% Sweden, 2% Slavic.

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    Paternal: 100% Ilocos Norte
    Maternal: 50% Nueva Ecija , 50% Bulacan

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    It becomes more complex everyday.

    71,8% Dutch
    9,3% German
    3,9% Belgian
    0,8% French
    0,8% British
    0,4% Swiss
    0,1% Swedish
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    4,7% Ashkenazi
    1,6% Sephardi
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    ~ 1,1% European/Asian colonial
    ~ 4,5% Indonesian
    ~ 1,0% (South-)Indian
    Ancestry (approx.): ~88.25% West-European; 6.25% Jewish; ~4.50% Indonesian; ~1.00% (South?)-Indian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MischievousRaven View Post
    I've noticed a fair number of other folks here who have calculated their ethnicity in their signature, based on their paper trail! I'd love to see others' ethnicity compositions based on your paper trail, specifically.
    I appreciate you asking this question. I personally wish more people would include their paper trails or known genealogies in their signature so I can easily compare the DNA test results they post to that. I see a lot of people with DNA test results in their signature, and while of course that is fine it doesn't help anything! The best way to understand DNA tests and get useful information from them IMO is to use them as a point of comparison. Having one's genealogy included in a signature is helpful when scanning test results to try and make sense of them.

    That's how I see it anyhow.
    Paper trail ancestry to the best of my knowledge:
    English (possibly containing some Welsh ancestry) 31.25%, Eastern European and Eastern German (Galicia, Poland) 25%, Scottish 17.96%, Scotch-Irish 12.5%, French 8.2%, Native American 1.95%, and Colonial American, 3.125%, which cannot be determined with complete certainty: there is Dutch (at least 1.36%) and some English. The rest could include Spanish, Norwegian, German, and French, but these percentages would be minuscule.

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