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    A new one from France

    Hi everyone
    I'm living in France and just starting in genetic genealogy, my Y-DNA is R1b-U106>Z381>Z156.
    I hope I will read and learn a lot here !
    My apologies, English is not my mother language so please tell me if I'm not clear
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagisterMilitum View Post
    Hi everyone
    I'm living in France and just starting in genetic genealogy, my Y-DNA is R1b-U106>Z381>Z156.
    I hope I will read and learn a lot here !
    My apologies, English is not my mother language so please tell me if I'm not clear
    Thanks
    Hello and welcome to the forum! This is a great place for all things DNA related - especially ancient DNA ;-). Also, welcome to the Z156 group under U106 - I am also U106>Z381>Z156 and the additional SNPs you can see in my signature etc...

    If you don't mind me asking, who did you test with and what test did you take? I ask because there are some major sub groups under Z156 - First there is the Z306/Z304 group and some smaller sub groups, then under Z304 there is both DF96 and DF98 (I am positive for DF98)... and some smaller sub groups... with enough testing you can discover if you are positive for them... but it depends on what tests you have taken :-)!

    Don't be a stranger - because we need more testers from continental European countries like France and Germany!

    Cheers,
    Charlie
    Last edited by Bollox79; 09-09-2018 at 07:40 AM.
    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget Dana b. 1843 Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4?) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b. Relative of King Bela III of Hungary (his Y-DNA and autosomal kinsman buried near him had mtDNA T2b2b1)!

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    If you have not already don soe, I would strongly encourage you to join the U106 Yahoogroup forum by sending an email to: r1b1c_u106-s21-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

    Virtually all of the leading experts regarding the U106 clade participate on that forum.
    Gedmatch DNA: M032736 Gedcom: 6613110.
    Gedmatch Genesis: WH4547538
    co-administrator: Y-DNA R-U106 Haplogroup Project

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollox79 View Post
    Hello and welcome to the forum! This is a great place for all things DNA related - especially ancient DNA ;-). Also, welcome to the Z156 group under U106 - I am also U106>Z381>Z156 and the additional SNPs you can see in my signature etc...

    If you don't mind me asking, who did you test with and what test did you take? I ask because there are some major sub groups under Z156 - First there is the Z306/Z304 group and some smaller sub groups, then under Z304 there is both DF96 and DF98 (I am positive for DF98)... and some smaller sub groups... with enough testing you can discover if you are positive for them... but it depends on what tests you have taken :-)!

    Don't be a stranger - because we need more testers from continental European countries like France and Germany!

    Cheers,
    Charlie
    Hi Charlie, thanks for your reply
    I received my test last week from LDNA, the test was for myself. When I look at my Y-DNA data the next clade (?) after Z156 is S349.1, then S484/Z48. I'm just beginning my researches si I've no idea of what it means ... I discovered that another person on anthro had exactly the same results than me, from AM01921.2/S475.2/Z2983.2 down to Z40395, does it mean that we are cousins ? I 'm born and living in Lyon, France and both my father's and mother's surname seems to be germanic

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    Magister,

    I would go join the U106 DNA forum at yahoo as Wing Genealogist suggested early in this thread as all the experts are there and can give great testing advice. As far as those SNPs (that is what we call the Y-DNA markers like Z156) under Z156 - I am not familiar with them so they might be older SNPs than Z156 - go ahead and send an e-mail to r1b1c_u106-s21-subscribe@yahoogroups.com... we discuss U106 there! Let me know then if you have any trouble ok! I have a friend/kinsman from France who is also Z156 and I am friends with him on facebook... would you like me to see if he is ok with me sending your his contact/e-mail info?

    Additionally do you have a list of the SNPs that LDNA found you positive for other than U106, Z381, and Z156?
    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget Dana b. 1843 Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4?) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b. Relative of King Bela III of Hungary (his Y-DNA and autosomal kinsman buried near him had mtDNA T2b2b1)!

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    Thans to you, Bollox and Wing genealogist, I 've heard before about this Yahoo U106 forum, I will follow your advice and register.
    Charlie, no problem for your contact in France, I would be glad to get in touch with him.
    For my samples here's the full test : (it's exactly the same results than "Sktibo" who posted his on this forum..)
    AM01921.2/S475.2/Z2983.2
    CTS10083
    CTS10085/M1250/PF5948
    CTS10149/PF6490/V3993
    CTS10168/M1149
    CTS10362/M5770
    CTS10663/M788
    CTS10834
    CTS109/M8948
    CTS10946/M5804
    CTS11468/PF6520
    CTS11827/M5816
    CTS11948/PF6522/PF6522
    CTS11985/PF6523
    CTS12028/M1272/PF5977
    CTS1217/M5597
    CTS125/M5576
    CTS1274/FGC34/PF6422
    CTS1738/FGC55/PF6449
    CTS196/PF5845
    CTS1996/M5651
    CTS2134
    CTS2254/M3680/PF2657
    CTS2664/PF6454
    CTS2908/M666/PF6123
    CTS3123/M670
    CTS3135/M1206/PF5898
    CTS3229/M672/PF6036/YSC0001265
    CTS3358/M1210/PF5900
    CTS3460/M5670
    CTS3475/PF6456/V2714
    CTS3622/PF6037
    CTS3941/CTS3941/PF2135/PF2135
    CTS4244/PF6257/YSC0001279
    CTS4443/M3696/PF2677
    CTS4944/M1218/PF5909
    CTS5318/M5690
    CTS5418/M1222/PF5912
    CTS543/M5584
    CTS5577/PF6464
    CTS5808/M1226/PF5915
    CTS5815/M696
    CTS5884/M1228/PF5917
    CTS6135/M3708/PF2693
    CTS6203
    CTS623/PF6419
    CTS6252/M5700
    CTS6378
    CTS6800/M5713
    CTS6948/M1231/PF5922
    CTS7604/M1235/PF5928
    CTS7659/FGC50/PF6470
    CTS7904/PF6471
    CTS7933/M5728
    CTS7941/PF6472
    CTS8148
    CTS8243/M5736
    CTS8436/PF6259
    CTS8591
    CTS8612/PF6260
    CTS8626/M1239/PF5934
    CTS8627/PF6478
    CTS8665/PF6479
    CTS8728/L1063/PF6480/S13
    CTS894/PF6420/YSC0001293
    CTS9005/M741
    CTS9014/M5750
    CTS9018/PF6484
    CTS9162/L1185/M1241/PF5937
    CTS9458/M5753
    CTS9556/M5758
    CTS9679
    CTS9722/M5762
    CTS9972/PF6261
    E101/M12191/Y1271
    F102/M625/PF6116
    F1046/M3646/PF2610/YSC0001295
    F115/M1189/PF5870
    F1167/PF4516/YSC0001296
    F1320/M3657/PF2621
    F1381/PF4520
    F154/M636
    F1704/M3675/PF2651
    F1714/F1714/M3677/PF2653/PF2653
    F1767/M3683/PF2660
    F1794/PF6455
    F1857/P337/Page83/PF5901
    F2075/PF2685
    F2142/PF2688
    F2211
    F2434
    F2837/M3726/PF2722
    F29/L821/M5579/PF5857
    F295/M685
    F2993/M3737/PF2732/V3940
    F313/M1219
    F33/M603/PF6013
    F332/M1224/PF5914
    F3335/M3754/PF2758
    F3358/PF4611/YSC0001316
    F3424/M1489
    F344/M1227/PF5916
    F356/M703/PF5919
    F359/M1229/PF5920
    F3689/M2682/PF3495/Y2571
    F3692/M3650
    F370/M708/Y479
    F3703
    F4/M1183/PF5991
    F459/Y482
    F47/M607/Y472
    F506/M1243/PF5940
    F524/M1248/PF5945
    F536/M1251/PF5949
    F63/M614/PF6016
    F640/M1271/PF5975
    F671/M1274/PF5981
    F69/L773/PF6421/YSC0000276
    F83/M1185/PF5861
    F847
    F91/PF5862/V231
    F929/M578/PF3494/S6378
    F93/M621/PF6114
    FGC1599/S23720/Z7822
    FGC33/PF6469
    FGC41/M12190/Y108
    IMS-JST022455
    L1009
    L11/PF6539/S127
    L1345/PF6266/YSC0000224
    L1347/M792/PF6077/YSC0000233
    L1348/PF6521/YSC0000238
    L1350/PF6505/YSC0000225
    L1351/PF6528/YSC0000240
    L1353/PF6489/YSC0000294
    L15/M523/PF3492/S137
    L16/M522/PF3493/S138
    L23/PF6534/S141
    L248.3/M705.3
    L265/PF6431
    L407/PF6252
    L468/M3703/PF2689
    L482/PF6427
    L483
    L500/PF6481
    L502/PF6487
    L506/PF6267
    L51/M412/PF6536/S167
    L58
    L726
    L741/PF5960/YSC0000297
    L747/M702/PF5918/YSC0000287
    L752/PF6483
    L754/PF6269/YSC0000022
    L757/PF6488/V3721/YSC0000293
    L760/M642/PF5877/YSC0000286
    L761/PF6258/YSC0000266
    L762/PF6450/YSC0000258
    L768/PF5976/YSC0000274
    L779/PF5907/YSC0000251
    L781/PF5875/YSC0000255
    L82/PF5972
    L820/PF6262/YSC0000211
    L822/PF6247/YSC0000075
    L875/M706/PF6131/YSC0000288
    L882/M3749/PF2745
    L963
    L970/PF1065
    M10372.1/ZS6696.1
    M1109
    M1160/PF5958
    M11760
    M1186/PF5864
    M1187/PF5865
    M1188/PF5869
    M1190/PF5871
    M1192/PF5872
    M1199/PF5886
    M1216/PF5908
    M1221/P331/PF5911
    M1240/PF5936
    M1259/PF5956
    M1260/PF5957
    M1263/PF5964
    M1264
    M1265/PF5965
    M173/P241/Page29
    M207/Page37/UTY2
    M213/P137/Page38/PF2673
    M251/M9122
    M2684/PF3497/YSC0001319
    M269/PF6517
    M2696/PF3500
    M299
    M306/PF6147/S1
    M343/PF6242
    M3637/PF2589/V186
    M3639/PF2591
    M3751/PF2748
    M3752/PF2749
    M405/S21/U106
    M415/PF6251
    M45/PF5962
    M5577/PF1413/V189
    M5590
    M5608/PF258
    M5642
    M5650
    M5682
    M5691/PF779
    M5695/PF1417/V41
    M5708
    M5717/PF844
    M5737/PF892
    M5738
    M5747
    M5760
    M5781/PF1040
    M5788
    M5809/PF1237
    M5819
    M5822
    M734/PF6057/S4/YSC0000201
    M74/N12/PF5963
    M760/Y506
    M764/PF5953
    M799
    M8952
    M8956
    M8959
    M8961
    M8980
    M8983
    M8986
    M8999
    M9009
    M9011
    M9015
    M9017
    M9020
    M9025
    M9026
    M9028
    M9032
    M9034
    M9037
    M9038
    M9042
    M9045
    M9054
    M9056
    M9057
    M9064
    M9066
    M9110
    M9115
    M9129
    M9156
    M9169
    M9194.3
    M9200
    M9215
    M9218
    M9223
    M9231
    M9237
    M9246
    M9248
    M9252
    M9253
    M9257
    M9261
    M9280
    M9283
    M9286
    M9288/PF985
    M9292
    M9293
    M9295
    M9316/PF1034
    M9317
    M9318
    M9328/PF1053
    M9338
    M9341
    M9348
    M9349
    M9352
    M9356
    M9359
    M9380
    M9387
    M9405
    M9406
    P105/P105
    P128/PF5504
    P131/PF5493
    P132/PF5480
    P135/PF2741
    P139
    P140
    P149
    P160/PF2618
    P161
    P187/PF2632
    P224/PF6050
    P225
    P226/PF5879
    P228/PF5927
    P229/PF6019
    P230/PF5925
    P232
    P233
    P235/PF5946
    P236
    P237/PF5873
    P238/PF6115
    P239/PF5930
    P242/PF6113
    P243/PF5874
    P244/PF5896
    P245/PF6117
    P280
    P281/PF5941
    P282/PF5932
    P283/PF5966
    P284
    P285
    P286/PF6136
    P295/PF5866/S8
    P297/PF6398
    P310/PF6546/S129
    P311/PF6545/S128
    P84.1
    PF1016
    PF1096
    PF2608
    PF5982
    PF6246
    PF6249
    PF6263
    PF6265
    PF6270
    PF6271
    PF6272
    PF6399/S10
    PF6409
    PF6425
    PF6426
    PF6429
    PF6430
    PF6432
    PF6434
    PF6435
    PF6451
    PF6463
    PF6466/YSC0000194
    PF6482/YSC0000203
    PF6485/S3
    PF6495
    PF6497/YSC0000219
    PF6498
    PF6500
    PF6506
    PF6507
    PF6524
    PF6543/S1159/YSC0000191
    PF7372
    S264/Z156
    S349.1
    S484/Z48
    SRY10831.1
    V153
    V1580/Z3965
    Z11010
    Z11892
    Z11910
    Z11916
    Z1759
    Z18049.2
    Z1853
    Z19760
    Z21721
    Z3225
    Z3339.2
    Z40386
    Z40387
    Z40389
    Z40392
    Z40393
    Z40394
    Z40395
    Z4145/Z4147

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagisterMilitum View Post
    Thans to you, Bollox and Wing genealogist, I 've heard before about this Yahoo U106 forum, I will follow your advice and register.
    Charlie, no problem for your contact in France, I would be glad to get in touch with him.
    For my samples here's the full test : (it's exactly the same results than "Sktibo" who posted his on this forum..)
    AM01921.2/S475.2/Z2983.2
    CTS10083
    CTS10085/M1250/PF5948
    CTS10149/PF6490/V3993
    CTS10168/M1149
    CTS10362/M5770
    CTS10663/M788
    CTS10834
    CTS109/M8948
    CTS10946/M5804
    CTS11468/PF6520
    CTS11827/M5816
    CTS11948/PF6522/PF6522
    CTS11985/PF6523
    CTS12028/M1272/PF5977
    CTS1217/M5597
    CTS125/M5576
    CTS1274/FGC34/PF6422
    CTS1738/FGC55/PF6449
    CTS196/PF5845
    CTS1996/M5651
    CTS2134
    CTS2254/M3680/PF2657
    CTS2664/PF6454
    CTS2908/M666/PF6123
    CTS3123/M670
    CTS3135/M1206/PF5898
    CTS3229/M672/PF6036/YSC0001265
    CTS3358/M1210/PF5900
    CTS3460/M5670
    CTS3475/PF6456/V2714
    CTS3622/PF6037
    CTS3941/CTS3941/PF2135/PF2135
    CTS4244/PF6257/YSC0001279
    CTS4443/M3696/PF2677
    CTS4944/M1218/PF5909
    CTS5318/M5690
    CTS5418/M1222/PF5912
    CTS543/M5584
    CTS5577/PF6464
    CTS5808/M1226/PF5915
    CTS5815/M696
    CTS5884/M1228/PF5917
    CTS6135/M3708/PF2693
    CTS6203
    CTS623/PF6419
    CTS6252/M5700
    CTS6378
    CTS6800/M5713
    CTS6948/M1231/PF5922
    CTS7604/M1235/PF5928
    CTS7659/FGC50/PF6470
    CTS7904/PF6471
    CTS7933/M5728
    CTS7941/PF6472
    CTS8148
    CTS8243/M5736
    CTS8436/PF6259
    CTS8591
    CTS8612/PF6260
    CTS8626/M1239/PF5934
    CTS8627/PF6478
    CTS8665/PF6479
    CTS8728/L1063/PF6480/S13
    CTS894/PF6420/YSC0001293
    CTS9005/M741
    CTS9014/M5750
    CTS9018/PF6484
    CTS9162/L1185/M1241/PF5937
    CTS9458/M5753
    CTS9556/M5758
    CTS9679
    CTS9722/M5762
    CTS9972/PF6261
    E101/M12191/Y1271
    F102/M625/PF6116
    F1046/M3646/PF2610/YSC0001295
    F115/M1189/PF5870
    F1167/PF4516/YSC0001296
    F1320/M3657/PF2621
    F1381/PF4520
    F154/M636
    F1704/M3675/PF2651
    F1714/F1714/M3677/PF2653/PF2653
    F1767/M3683/PF2660
    F1794/PF6455
    F1857/P337/Page83/PF5901
    F2075/PF2685
    F2142/PF2688
    F2211
    F2434
    F2837/M3726/PF2722
    F29/L821/M5579/PF5857
    F295/M685
    F2993/M3737/PF2732/V3940
    F313/M1219
    F33/M603/PF6013
    F332/M1224/PF5914
    F3335/M3754/PF2758
    F3358/PF4611/YSC0001316
    F3424/M1489
    F344/M1227/PF5916
    F356/M703/PF5919
    F359/M1229/PF5920
    F3689/M2682/PF3495/Y2571
    F3692/M3650
    F370/M708/Y479
    F3703
    F4/M1183/PF5991
    F459/Y482
    F47/M607/Y472
    F506/M1243/PF5940
    F524/M1248/PF5945
    F536/M1251/PF5949
    F63/M614/PF6016
    F640/M1271/PF5975
    F671/M1274/PF5981
    F69/L773/PF6421/YSC0000276
    F83/M1185/PF5861
    F847
    F91/PF5862/V231
    F929/M578/PF3494/S6378
    F93/M621/PF6114
    FGC1599/S23720/Z7822
    FGC33/PF6469
    FGC41/M12190/Y108
    IMS-JST022455
    L1009
    L11/PF6539/S127
    L1345/PF6266/YSC0000224
    L1347/M792/PF6077/YSC0000233
    L1348/PF6521/YSC0000238
    L1350/PF6505/YSC0000225
    L1351/PF6528/YSC0000240
    L1353/PF6489/YSC0000294
    L15/M523/PF3492/S137
    L16/M522/PF3493/S138
    L23/PF6534/S141
    L248.3/M705.3
    L265/PF6431
    L407/PF6252
    L468/M3703/PF2689
    L482/PF6427
    L483
    L500/PF6481
    L502/PF6487
    L506/PF6267
    L51/M412/PF6536/S167
    L58
    L726
    L741/PF5960/YSC0000297
    L747/M702/PF5918/YSC0000287
    L752/PF6483
    L754/PF6269/YSC0000022
    L757/PF6488/V3721/YSC0000293
    L760/M642/PF5877/YSC0000286
    L761/PF6258/YSC0000266
    L762/PF6450/YSC0000258
    L768/PF5976/YSC0000274
    L779/PF5907/YSC0000251
    L781/PF5875/YSC0000255
    L82/PF5972
    L820/PF6262/YSC0000211
    L822/PF6247/YSC0000075
    L875/M706/PF6131/YSC0000288
    L882/M3749/PF2745
    L963
    L970/PF1065
    M10372.1/ZS6696.1
    M1109
    M1160/PF5958
    M11760
    M1186/PF5864
    M1187/PF5865
    M1188/PF5869
    M1190/PF5871
    M1192/PF5872
    M1199/PF5886
    M1216/PF5908
    M1221/P331/PF5911
    M1240/PF5936
    M1259/PF5956
    M1260/PF5957
    M1263/PF5964
    M1264
    M1265/PF5965
    M173/P241/Page29
    M207/Page37/UTY2
    M213/P137/Page38/PF2673
    M251/M9122
    M2684/PF3497/YSC0001319
    M269/PF6517
    M2696/PF3500
    M299
    M306/PF6147/S1
    M343/PF6242
    M3637/PF2589/V186
    M3639/PF2591
    M3751/PF2748
    M3752/PF2749
    M405/S21/U106
    M415/PF6251
    M45/PF5962
    M5577/PF1413/V189
    M5590
    M5608/PF258
    M5642
    M5650
    M5682
    M5691/PF779
    M5695/PF1417/V41
    M5708
    M5717/PF844
    M5737/PF892
    M5738
    M5747
    M5760
    M5781/PF1040
    M5788
    M5809/PF1237
    M5819
    M5822
    M734/PF6057/S4/YSC0000201
    M74/N12/PF5963
    M760/Y506
    M764/PF5953
    M799
    M8952
    M8956
    M8959
    M8961
    M8980
    M8983
    M8986
    M8999
    M9009
    M9011
    M9015
    M9017
    M9020
    M9025
    M9026
    M9028
    M9032
    M9034
    M9037
    M9038
    M9042
    M9045
    M9054
    M9056
    M9057
    M9064
    M9066
    M9110
    M9115
    M9129
    M9156
    M9169
    M9194.3
    M9200
    M9215
    M9218
    M9223
    M9231
    M9237
    M9246
    M9248
    M9252
    M9253
    M9257
    M9261
    M9280
    M9283
    M9286
    M9288/PF985
    M9292
    M9293
    M9295
    M9316/PF1034
    M9317
    M9318
    M9328/PF1053
    M9338
    M9341
    M9348
    M9349
    M9352
    M9356
    M9359
    M9380
    M9387
    M9405
    M9406
    P105/P105
    P128/PF5504
    P131/PF5493
    P132/PF5480
    P135/PF2741
    P139
    P140
    P149
    P160/PF2618
    P161
    P187/PF2632
    P224/PF6050
    P225
    P226/PF5879
    P228/PF5927
    P229/PF6019
    P230/PF5925
    P232
    P233
    P235/PF5946
    P236
    P237/PF5873
    P238/PF6115
    P239/PF5930
    P242/PF6113
    P243/PF5874
    P244/PF5896
    P245/PF6117
    P280
    P281/PF5941
    P282/PF5932
    P283/PF5966
    P284
    P285
    P286/PF6136
    P295/PF5866/S8
    P297/PF6398
    P310/PF6546/S129
    P311/PF6545/S128
    P84.1
    PF1016
    PF1096
    PF2608
    PF5982
    PF6246
    PF6249
    PF6263
    PF6265
    PF6270
    PF6271
    PF6272
    PF6399/S10
    PF6409
    PF6425
    PF6426
    PF6429
    PF6430
    PF6432
    PF6434
    PF6435
    PF6451
    PF6463
    PF6466/YSC0000194
    PF6482/YSC0000203
    PF6485/S3
    PF6495
    PF6497/YSC0000219
    PF6498
    PF6500
    PF6506
    PF6507
    PF6524
    PF6543/S1159/YSC0000191
    PF7372
    S264/Z156
    S349.1
    S484/Z48
    SRY10831.1
    V153
    V1580/Z3965
    Z11010
    Z11892
    Z11910
    Z11916
    Z1759
    Z18049.2
    Z1853
    Z19760
    Z21721
    Z3225
    Z3339.2
    Z40386
    Z40387
    Z40389
    Z40392
    Z40393
    Z40394
    Z40395
    Z4145/Z4147
    Here is a list of the SNPs I'm positive for from my testing at Family Tree DNA (I've taken the Big Y which is the a "SNP discovery" test that helped discover a lot of newer SNPs under the older, larger groups like U106 and some of it's subgroups)... I am no expert on the older SNPs leading back to our VERY old ancestor R (under him would have come R1 and then R1a and R1b - we are under R1b and then the U106 group etc)... but I am very familiar with U106 and especially Z156 and sub groups as that is my group also!

    PAGES00083+, PF1016+, PF1029+, PF1031+, PF1040+, PF1046+, PF1061+, PF1092+, PF1097+, PF110+, PF1203+, PF1269+, PF1276+, PF192+, PF210+, PF212+, PF223+, PF234+, PF258+, PF2591+, PF2593+, PF2599+, PF2608+, PF2611+, PF2615+, PF2624+, PF263+, PF2643+, PF272+, PF2745+, PF2747+, PF2748+, PF2749+, PF2770+, PF278+, PF292+, PF316+, PF325+, PF342+, PF500+, PF5465+, PF5466+, PF5468+, PF5471+, PF5851+, PF5853+, PF5854+, PF5865+, PF5869+, PF5871+, PF5882+, PF5886+, PF5887+, PF5888+, PF5953+, PF5956+, PF5957+, PF5964+, PF5965+, PF5982+, PF6063+, PF6091+, PF6145+, PF6246+, PF6249+, PF6250+, PF6263+, PF6265+, PF6270+, PF6271+, PF6272+, PF6404+, PF6409+, PF6411+, PF6424+, PF6425+, PF6430+, PF6432+, PF6434+, PF6438+, PF6443+, PF6463+, PF6464+, PF6469+, PF6470+, PF6477+, PF6479+, PF6494+, PF6495+, PF6498+, PF6500+, PF6506+, PF6507+, PF6509+, PF6520+, PF6524+, PF667+, PF719+, PF725+, PF779+, PF796+, PF803+, PF815+, PF821+, PF840+, PF844+, PF892+, PF937+, PF951+, PF954+, PF970+, s10+, s3+, U106+, V186+, V189+, V205+, V52+, V9+, YSC0000067+, YSC0000072+, YSC0000075+, YSC0000082+, YSC0000166+, YSC0000176+, YSC0000179+, YSC0000182+, YSC0000186+, YSC0000191+, YSC0000194+, YSC0000201+, YSC0000203+, YSC0000205+, YSC0000207+, YSC0000213+, YSC0000219+, YSC0000224+, YSC0000225+, YSC0000227+, YSC0000230+, YSC0000232+, YSC0000233+, YSC0000251+, YSC0000269+, YSC0000270+, YSC0000279+, YSC0000288+, YSC0000294+, Z156+, Z306+, Z307+, Z381+, DF98+, A5013+, BY11750+, BY18729+, BY22302+, BY27761+, BY3070+, CTS10465+, CTS10834+, CTS11041+, CTS11985+, CTS12478+, CTS2664+, CTS3063+, CTS3358+, CTS3575+, CTS3654+, CTS4244+, CTS4368+, CTS623+, F115+, F1209+, F1329+, F1704+, F1714+, F1753+, F1767+, F2048+, F2142+, F2155+, F2402+, F2587+, F2688+, F2837+, F2985+, F3111+, F313+, F3136+, F3335+, F3556+, F3692+, F47+, F719+, F82+, FGC14814+, FGC14816+, FGC14817+, FGC14818+, FGC14823+, FGC14830+, FGC14831+, FGC14840+, FGC5795+, L1090+, L11+, L132+, L136+, L15+, L150+, L16+, L23+, L265+, L278+, L350+, L388+, L468+, L482+, L483+, L498+, L500+, L506+, L51+, L52+, L585+, L747+, L752+, L754+, L761+, L768+, L773+, L779+, L82+, M168+, M173+, M207+, M213+, M235+, M269+, M294+, M299+, M306+, M343+, M415+, M42+, M45+, M526+, M74+, M89+, M9+, M94+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P133+, P134+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P139+, P14+, P140+, P141+, P143+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P149+, P151+, P157+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P161+, P163+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P224+, P225+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P231+, P232+, P233+, P234+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P239+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P294+, P295+, P297+, P310+, P311+, P316+, PAGES00026+, PAGES00081+, PAGES00083+, PF2591+, PF2608+, PF2611+, PF2615+, PF2745+, PF2747+, PF2748+, PF2749+, PF2770+, PF5471+, PF5869+, PF5871+, PF5882+, PF5886+, PF5888+, PF5953+, PF5956+, PF5957+, PF5964+, PF5965+, PF5982+, PF6246+, PF6250+, PF6263+, PF6265+, PF6270+, PF6271+, PF6272+, PF6409+, PF6425+, PF6430+, PF6432+, PF6434+, PF6438+, PF6443+, PF6463+, PF6469+, PF6470+, PF6477+, PF6479+, PF6494+, PF6495+, PF6498+, PF6500+, PF6506+, PF6507+, PF6509+, PF6520+, PF6524+, S1667+, S1894+, S1911+, s3+, S4004+, U106+, V168+, V186+, V189+, V205+, V221+, V241+, V250+, V52+, V9+, YSC0000075+, YSC0000082+, YSC0000186+, YSC0000191+, YSC0000224+, YSC0000225+, YSC0000269+, YSC0000288+, Z156+, Z2065+, Z2265+, Z304+, Z305+, Z306+, Z307+, Z381+, CTS10168+, CTS10362+, CTS10834+, CTS109+, CTS11358+, CTS11575+, CTS11726+, CTS11985+, CTS12478+, CTS125+, CTS12632+, CTS1996+, CTS2134+, CTS2664+, CTS3063+, CTS3135+, CTS3331+, CTS3358+, CTS3431+, CTS3536+, CTS3575+, CTS3654+, CTS3662+, CTS3868+, CTS3996+, CTS4244+, CTS4364+, CTS4368+, CTS4437+, CTS4443+, CTS4740+, CTS5318+, CTS5457+, CTS5532+, CTS5884+, CTS6135+, CTS623+, CTS6383+, CTS6800+, CTS6907+, CTS7922+, CTS7933+, CTS8243+, CTS8728+, CTS8980+, CTS9828+, F1046+, F115+, F1209+, F1302+, F1320+, F1329+, F1704+, F1714+, F1753+, F1767+, F1794+, F180+, F2048+, F2075+, F211+, F2142+, F2155+, F2302+, F2402+, F2587+, F2688+, F2710+, F2837+, F29+, F295+, F2985+, F2993+, F3111+, F313+, F3136+, F33+, F332+, F3335+, F344+, F3556+, F356+, F359+, F3692+, F378+, F4+, F47+, F506+, F556+, F63+, F640+, F647+, F652+, F671+, F719+, F82+, F83+, F93+, L11+, L132+, L15+, L150+, L151+, L16+, L23+, L265+, L278+, L350+, L388+, L389+, L407+, L468+, L470+, L471+, L478+, L482+, L483+, L498+, L500+, L502+, L506+, L51+, L52+, L585+, L721+, L747+, L752+, L754+, L761+, L768+, L773+, L774+, L779+, L82+, M139+, M168+, M207+, M235+, M294+, M343+, M415+, M42+, M45+, M526+, M89+, M94+, P128+, P131+, P132+, P135+, P136+, P138+, P14+, P141+, P145+, P146+, P148+, P151+, P158+, P159+, P160+, P166+, P187+, P207+, P225+, P226+, P228+, P229+, P230+, P232+, P233+, P235+, P236+, P237+, P238+, P240+, P242+, P243+, P244+, P245+, P280+, P281+, P282+, P283+, P284+, P285+, P286+, P295+, P297+, P310+, P89-

    I would imagine we share a lot of these as these are mostly ancestral (came before) U106 - we are most interested in the SNPs under U106 such as Z156 and what is under that... if you go to this site the U106 DNA project https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/u106/dna-results and follow the SNP listings (I think Z156 cluster is listed on either page 5 or 6) and then under that heading you will see the breakdown of the sub groups - if that makes sense let me know... I am kit 284744 in the DNA project and under DF98 etc... the reason we are more interested in the SNP Z156 and any "newer" SNPs is because that it getting us into the Bronze Age and closer to 0AD as you move "down" the branching of the U106 tree ;-). For instance - our resident DF98 expert and dating expert Dr. Iain McDonald (who is also a member of my DF98 group) has dated the SNP Z156 to about 3000 BC - though this may or may not have changed recently as he continues to improve his dating method... that should put it in perspective as far as dating. When you join the yahoo forum - you will occasionally see dating that Dr. Iain puts out as a message if you check often enough ;-).

    As you find more people that you match at SNPs (if you have taken enough testing like the Big Y) then you find more "recent" matches and that helps branch out and build your tree under Z156 etc... but first you need the testing and also to be lucky enough to have the right matches (which will come in time if you don't right now - no worries) you can see how it happens by looking in the U106 DNA project link - for instance you can see Z156 as a base group, and then as you follow the listings under that you can see it broken down into groups "under" Z156... let me know if that makes sense after you take a look at the U106 DNA project...

    Additionally I sent a message to my French friend on facebook who is Z156+... awaiting his response, but I'm sure he'll say it's ok to give you his e-mail info!!!
    Last edited by Bollox79; 09-10-2018 at 05:36 AM.
    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget Dana b. 1843 Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4?) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b. Relative of King Bela III of Hungary (his Y-DNA and autosomal kinsman buried near him had mtDNA T2b2b1)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagisterMilitum View Post
    For my samples here's the full test : (it's exactly the same results than "Sktibo" who posted his on this forum..)
    They aren't identical. They aren't in haplogroup order and it is hard to tell the difference without using the longhand names. You share a lot of SNPs but not all of them.

    He is also positive for the following but you are negative for them:
    P312/PF6547/S116 R1b1a1a2a1a2
    S227/Z195 R1b1a1a2a1a2a1

    He is negative for the following:
    M405/S21/U106 R1b1a1a2a1a1
    S264/Z156 R1b1a1a2a1a1c1


    Here are your results with the 2017 ISOGG longhand names and put in order:

    SNPs Longhand
    V153 A0a1
    L1009 A1b
    Z11892 A1b
    Z11910 A1b
    Z11916 A1b
    L963 A1b1a1a2 False Positive
    M11760 BT
    M251/M9122 BT
    M299 BT
    M8952 BT
    M8956 BT
    M8959 BT
    M8961 BT
    M8980 BT
    M8983 BT
    M8986 BT
    M8999 BT
    M9009 BT
    M9011 BT
    M9015 BT
    M9017 BT
    M9020 BT
    M9025 BT
    M9026 BT
    M9028 BT
    M9032 BT
    M9034 BT
    M9037 BT
    M9038 BT
    M9042 BT
    M9045 BT
    M9054 BT
    M9056 BT
    M9057 BT
    M9064 BT
    M9066 BT
    M9110 BT
    M9115 BT
    M9129 BT
    M9156 BT
    M9169 BT
    M9194.3 BT
    M9200 BT
    M9215 BT
    M9218 BT
    M9223 BT
    M9231 BT
    M9237 BT
    M9246 BT
    M9248 BT
    M9252 BT
    M9253 BT
    M9257 BT
    M9261 BT
    M9280 BT
    M9283 BT
    M9286 BT
    M9288/PF985 BT
    M9292 BT
    M9293 BT
    M9295 BT
    M9316/PF1034 BT
    M9317 BT
    M9318 BT
    M9328/PF1053 BT
    M9338 BT
    M9341 BT
    M9348 BT
    M9349 BT
    M9352 BT
    M9356 BT
    M9359 BT
    M9380 BT
    M9387 BT
    M9405 BT
    M9406 BT
    PF1096 BT
    SRY10831.1 BT
    Z40386 BT
    Z40387 BT
    Z40389 BT
    Z40392 BT
    Z40393 BT
    Z40394 BT
    Z40395 BT
    CTS10083 C
    CTS6203 C
    CTS6378 C
    CTS8148 C
    CTS9679 C
    F2211 C
    F2434 C
    F3703 C
    F847 C
    V1580/Z3965 C
    Z18049.2 C
    Z4145/Z4147 C
    IMS-JST022455 C1a1~ False Positive
    CTS10362/M5770 CT
    CTS109/M8948 CT
    CTS10946/M5804 CT
    CTS11827/M5816 CT
    CTS1217/M5597 CT
    CTS125/M5576 CT
    CTS1996/M5651 CT
    CTS3460/M5670 CT
    CTS5318/M5690 CT
    CTS543/M5584 CT
    CTS6252/M5700 CT
    CTS6800/M5713 CT
    CTS7933/M5728 CT
    CTS8243/M5736 CT
    CTS9014/M5750 CT
    CTS9458/M5753 CT
    CTS9556/M5758 CT
    CTS9722/M5762 CT
    L970/PF1065 CT
    M5590 CT
    M5608/PF258 CT
    M5642 CT
    M5650 CT
    M5682 CT
    M5691/PF779 CT
    M5695/PF1417/V41 CT
    M5708 CT
    M5717/PF844 CT
    M5737/PF892 CT
    M5738 CT
    M5747 CT
    M5760 CT
    M5781/PF1040 CT
    M5788 CT
    M5809/PF1237 CT
    M5819 CT
    M5822 CT
    PF1016 CT
    M10372.1/ZS6696.1 E1a False Positive
    CTS3941/CTS3941/PF2135/PF2135 E1b~ False Positive
    Z3339.2 E1b1a1a1a1c1a1a3a1c3~ False Positive
    Z21721 E1b1a1a1a2a1a3a2a1a~ False Positive
    Z1759 E1b1a1a1a2a1a3b1a2a2a~ False Positive
    AM01921.2/S475.2/Z2983.2 E1b1a1a1a2a1a3b1a2a2a1b~ False Positive
    CTS4443/M3696/PF2677 F
    CTS6135/M3708/PF2693 F
    F1046/M3646/PF2610/YSC0001295 F
    F1320/M3657/PF2621 F
    F1704/M3675/PF2651 F
    F1714/F1714/M3677/PF2653/PF2653 F
    F1767/M3683/PF2660 F
    F2075/PF2685 F
    F2142/PF2688 F
    F2837/M3726/PF2722 F
    F2993/M3737/PF2732/V3940 F
    F3335/M3754/PF2758 F
    F3692/M3650 F
    L468/M3703/PF2689 F
    L882/M3749/PF2745 F
    M213/P137/Page38/PF2673 F
    M3637/PF2589/V186 F
    M3639/PF2591 F
    M3751/PF2748 F
    M3752/PF2749 F
    P135/PF2741 F
    P139 F
    P140 F
    P149 F
    P160/PF2618 F
    P161 F
    P187/PF2632 F
    PF2608 F
    Z3225 G1~
    CTS2254/M3680/PF2657 GHIJK
    F929/M578/PF3494/S6378 HIJK
    F313/M1219 I2c1a1a1b False Positive
    F3689/M2682/PF3495/Y2571 IJK
    L15/M523/PF3492/S137 IJK
    L16/M522/PF3493/S138 IJK
    M2684/PF3497/YSC0001319 IJK
    M2696/PF3500 IJK
    F1167/PF4516/YSC0001296 J
    F1381/PF4520 J
    F3358/PF4611/YSC0001316 J
    FGC1599/S23720/Z7822 J
    Z1853 J1a2a1a2d2b~ False Positive
    M5577/PF1413/V189 J1a3b~ False Positive
    PF7372 J2b False Positive
    P132/PF5480 K
    P128/PF5504 K~
    P131/PF5493 K~
    M1221/P331/PF5911 K2b
    P105/P105 N1a1 False Positive
    L58 N1a1a1a1a1a1a2a1~ False Positive
    Z11010 N1a1a1a2 False Positive
    Z19760 N1b2 False Positive
    P84.1 na
    S349.1 na
    F3424/M1489 O1b1a1 False Positive
    F91/PF5862/V231 P_or_K2b2
    P295/PF5866/S8 P_or_K2b2
    CTS10085/M1250/PF5948 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS10168/M1149 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS12028/M1272/PF5977 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS196/PF5845 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS3135/M1206/PF5898 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS3358/M1210/PF5900 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS4944/M1218/PF5909 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS5418/M1222/PF5912 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS5808/M1226/PF5915 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS5884/M1228/PF5917 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS6948/M1231/PF5922 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS7604/M1235/PF5928 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS8626/M1239/PF5934 P~_or_K2b2~
    CTS9162/L1185/M1241/PF5937 P~_or_K2b2~
    F115/M1189/PF5870 P~_or_K2b2~
    F29/L821/M5579/PF5857 P~_or_K2b2~
    F332/M1224/PF5914 P~_or_K2b2~
    F344/M1227/PF5916 P~_or_K2b2~
    F359/M1229/PF5920 P~_or_K2b2~
    F4/M1183/PF5991 P~_or_K2b2~
    F506/M1243/PF5940 P~_or_K2b2~
    F524/M1248/PF5945 P~_or_K2b2~
    F536/M1251/PF5949 P~_or_K2b2~
    F640/M1271/PF5975 P~_or_K2b2~
    F671/M1274/PF5981 P~_or_K2b2~
    F83/M1185/PF5861 P~_or_K2b2~
    L82/PF5972 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1109 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1160/PF5958 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1186/PF5864 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1187/PF5865 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1188/PF5869 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1190/PF5871 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1192/PF5872 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1199/PF5886 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1216/PF5908 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1240/PF5936 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1259/PF5956 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1260/PF5957 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1263/PF5964 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1264 P~_or_K2b2~
    M1265/PF5965 P~_or_K2b2~
    PF5982 P~_or_K2b2~
    F1857/P337/Page83/PF5901 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    L741/PF5960/YSC0000297 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    L768/PF5976/YSC0000274 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    L779/PF5907/YSC0000251 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    L781/PF5875/YSC0000255 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    M45/PF5962 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    M74/N12/PF5963 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P226/PF5879 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P228/PF5927 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P230/PF5925 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P235/PF5946 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P237/PF5873 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P239/PF5930 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P243/PF5874 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P244/PF5896 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P281/PF5941 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P282/PF5932 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P283/PF5966 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    P284 P1~_or_K2b2a~
    CTS10663/M788 R
    CTS3229/M672/PF6036/YSC0001265 R
    CTS3622/PF6037 R
    CTS5815/M696 R
    CTS9005/M741 R
    F154/M636 R
    F295/M685 R
    F33/M603/PF6013 R
    F356/M703/PF5919 R
    F370/M708/Y479 R
    F459/Y482 R
    F47/M607/Y472 R
    F63/M614/PF6016 R
    L1347/M792/PF6077/YSC0000233 R
    L248.3/M705.3 R
    L747/M702/PF5918/YSC0000287 R
    L760/M642/PF5877/YSC0000286 R
    M207/Page37/UTY2 R
    M734/PF6057/S4/YSC0000201 R
    M760/Y506 R
    M764/PF5953 R
    M799 R
    P224/PF6050 R
    P229/PF6019 R
    P232 R
    P280 R
    P285 R
    CTS2908/M666/PF6123 R1
    CTS3123/M670 R1
    F102/M625/PF6116 R1
    F93/M621/PF6114 R1
    L875/M706/PF6131/YSC0000288 R1
    M173/P241/Page29 R1
    M306/PF6147/S1 R1
    P225 R1
    P233 R1
    P236 R1
    P238/PF6115 R1
    P242/PF6113 R1
    P245/PF6117 R1
    P286/PF6136 R1
    M343/PF6242 R1b
    CTS2134 R1b1
    L506/PF6267 R1b1
    L822/PF6247/YSC0000075 R1b1
    M415/PF6251 R1b1
    PF6246 R1b1
    PF6270 R1b1
    PF6272 R1b1
    CTS4244/PF6257/YSC0001279 R1b1a
    CTS8436/PF6259 R1b1a
    CTS8612/PF6260 R1b1a
    CTS9972/PF6261 R1b1a
    FGC41/M12190/Y108 R1b1a
    L1345/PF6266/YSC0000224 R1b1a
    L754/PF6269/YSC0000022 R1b1a
    L761/PF6258/YSC0000266 R1b1a
    L820/PF6262/YSC0000211 R1b1a
    PF6249 R1b1a
    PF6263 R1b1a
    PF6271 R1b1a
    CTS11985/PF6523 R1b1a1a
    CTS5577/PF6464 R1b1a1a
    CTS7904/PF6471 R1b1a1a
    CTS7941/PF6472 R1b1a1a
    CTS9018/PF6484 R1b1a1a
    L502/PF6487 R1b1a1a
    L752/PF6483 R1b1a1a
    P297/PF6398 R1b1a1a
    PF6451 R1b1a1a
    PF6463 R1b1a1a
    PF6498 R1b1a1a
    PF6506 R1b1a1a
    PF6524 R1b1a1a
    CTS10149/PF6490/V3993 R1b1a1a2
    CTS10834 R1b1a1a2
    CTS11468/PF6520 R1b1a1a2
    CTS11948/PF6522/PF6522 R1b1a1a2
    CTS1274/FGC34/PF6422 R1b1a1a2
    CTS1738/FGC55/PF6449 R1b1a1a2
    CTS2664/PF6454 R1b1a1a2
    CTS3475/PF6456/V2714 R1b1a1a2
    CTS623/PF6419 R1b1a1a2
    CTS7659/FGC50/PF6470 R1b1a1a2
    CTS8591 R1b1a1a2
    CTS8627/PF6478 R1b1a1a2
    CTS8665/PF6479 R1b1a1a2
    CTS8728/L1063/PF6480/S13 R1b1a1a2
    CTS894/PF6420/YSC0001293 R1b1a1a2
    E101/M12191/Y1271 R1b1a1a2
    F1794/PF6455 R1b1a1a2
    F69/L773/PF6421/YSC0000276 R1b1a1a2
    FGC33/PF6469 R1b1a1a2
    L1348/PF6521/YSC0000238 R1b1a1a2
    L1350/PF6505/YSC0000225 R1b1a1a2
    L1351/PF6528/YSC0000240 R1b1a1a2
    L1353/PF6489/YSC0000294 R1b1a1a2
    L265/PF6431 R1b1a1a2
    L407/PF6252 R1b1a1a2
    L482/PF6427 R1b1a1a2
    L483 R1b1a1a2
    L500/PF6481 R1b1a1a2
    L757/PF6488/V3721/YSC0000293 R1b1a1a2
    L762/PF6450/YSC0000258 R1b1a1a2
    M269/PF6517 R1b1a1a2
    PF6265 R1b1a1a2
    PF6399/S10 R1b1a1a2
    PF6409 R1b1a1a2
    PF6425 R1b1a1a2
    PF6426 R1b1a1a2
    PF6429 R1b1a1a2
    PF6430 R1b1a1a2
    PF6432 R1b1a1a2
    PF6434 R1b1a1a2
    PF6435 R1b1a1a2
    PF6466/YSC0000194 R1b1a1a2
    PF6482/YSC0000203 R1b1a1a2
    PF6485/S3 R1b1a1a2
    PF6495 R1b1a1a2
    PF6497/YSC0000219 R1b1a1a2
    PF6500 R1b1a1a2
    PF6507 R1b1a1a2
    L23/PF6534/S141 R1b1a1a2a
    L51/M412/PF6536/S167 R1b1a1a2a1
    L11/PF6539/S127 R1b1a1a2a1a
    P310/PF6546/S129 R1b1a1a2a1a
    P311/PF6545/S128 R1b1a1a2a1a
    PF6543/S1159/YSC0000191 R1b1a1a2a1a
    M405/S21/U106 R1b1a1a2a1a1
    S264/Z156 R1b1a1a2a1a1c1
    S484/Z48 R1b1a1a2a1a2b4~ False Positive
    L726 R2 False Positive
    Last edited by ArmandoR1b; 09-10-2018 at 02:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArmandoR1b View Post
    They aren't identical. They aren't in haplogroup order and it is hard to tell the difference without using the longhand names. You share a lot of SNPs but not all of them.

    He is also positive for the following but you are negative for them:
    P312/PF6547/S116 R1b1a1a2a1a2

    [/table]
    Thanks a lot, I hope it didn't took you too long to do that...
    So if I do understand, the next clade after Z156 should be S484/Z48, but it's a "false positive". I tried some researches on the net, but I didn't really understood what this term means.. Can you explain it to me ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagisterMilitum View Post
    Thanks a lot, I hope it didn't took you too long to do that...
    So if I do understand, the next clade after Z156 should be S484/Z48, but it's a "false positive". I tried some researches on the net, but I didn't really understood what this term means.. Can you explain it to me ?
    A False Positive is a result which conflicts with your Haplogroup assignment. It is highly likely the result is an error.

    These type of DNA tests are not 100% accurate. I don't know the error rate off-hand, but I believe it is in the range of 1-5% or so. I counted 19 false positives in 393 results. This results in an error rate just under 5%. In addition, the Y chromosome is notoriously difficult to read, and it's error rate may be higher than for the autosomal DNA.

    Also note where the vast majority of false positives cluster around certain haplogroups (such as E & N). It is possible there may be something going on which is contributing to these mis-calls.


    There would likely also be some "false negative" calls as well (where a SNP you should be positive for tested negative). This are MUCH harder to find, since the companies don't give you the HUGE number of negative calls.
    Gedmatch DNA: M032736 Gedcom: 6613110.
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    co-administrator: Y-DNA R-U106 Haplogroup Project

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