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    Hi everybody,

    I explain last week that I am now A6397 of the tree I1, FTDNA under A6397 have
    SNP S6402 and I buy it, but FTDNA have other 2 SNP, A6412 and A6613. But for the last two
    you can't buy it. Maybe you can only test it with Y-DNAfull. What is you point of view
    about it ?

    Best
    Last edited by claudefrancis; 10-01-2018 at 09:34 AM.

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    Maybe look for those SNPs at YSEQ? Or perhaps contact FTDNA?
    Y-DNA: I-A14097(Scotland),
    Big Y: I-F2642>Y1966>Y3649>A13241>Y3647>A14097 (1,850 YBP)
    mtDNA: pending (Westeremden, Netherlands)
    Other lines:
    R-M222 x2, R-L21 x2, I-M223, R-S1141, R-U198 & R-U106, mtHg J1c3
    Known ancestry
    Paternal: Britain & Ireland, France and Germany
    Maternal: Netherlands

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    Hi spruithean,

    thanks for your help, I send an email to FTDNA for the clarification. But about YSEQ in I1 not exist A6412 and A6613 test !

    Strange!!

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    Are A6412/A6613 private SNPs, as in restricted to certain familial lineages? A6412 is located at chrY:13,319,662..13,319,662 on the Y-chromosome. You may want to contact YSEQ or FTDNA asking if they may offer a A6613 or A6412 SNP test.

    Anyways here is YFull's tree for I-A6397. It looks like it only branches into S6402, which then branches out further.

    Did you do Big Y? Or are you doing SNP packs?
    Last edited by spruithean; 10-01-2018 at 08:40 PM.
    Y-DNA: I-A14097(Scotland),
    Big Y: I-F2642>Y1966>Y3649>A13241>Y3647>A14097 (1,850 YBP)
    mtDNA: pending (Westeremden, Netherlands)
    Other lines:
    R-M222 x2, R-L21 x2, I-M223, R-S1141, R-U198 & R-U106, mtHg J1c3
    Known ancestry
    Paternal: Britain & Ireland, France and Germany
    Maternal: Netherlands

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    Hi

    At the moment I make the Y-DNA67 test and I buy now SNP S6402 test.

    After I will see

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    double post

    EDIT: I would like to add YFull's tree for I-A6397, once more for future reference.
    Last edited by spruithean; 10-01-2018 at 08:41 PM.
    Y-DNA: I-A14097(Scotland),
    Big Y: I-F2642>Y1966>Y3649>A13241>Y3647>A14097 (1,850 YBP)
    mtDNA: pending (Westeremden, Netherlands)
    Other lines:
    R-M222 x2, R-L21 x2, I-M223, R-S1141, R-U198 & R-U106, mtHg J1c3
    Known ancestry
    Paternal: Britain & Ireland, France and Germany
    Maternal: Netherlands

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    Hi spruithean,

    I don't understand the question is for me about the tree I-A6397 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by claudefrancis View Post
    Hi spruithean,

    I don't understand the question is for me about the tree I-A6397 ?
    I think spruithean added the link again to make it easy for us to find it. Then people here can look at it with you at a later date to help you decide how to test further.
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    I see the project I1 Z138 in FTDNA

    under SNP S6402 positive there 3 direction
    - scotisch (1950 TMRCA)
    - scandinavian (1800/2200 TMRCA)
    - hungarian/romenian (3000 TMRCA)

    I remember Geno 2.0 NG inform me that I was 43% norvegian + danish but honestly I was surprise a little bit for
    this result !
    I know the Nord of France was under invasion of german, hungarian and vikings. But for me influence of german
    are possible the rest is only dream.
    Last edited by claudefrancis; 10-02-2018 at 11:12 AM.

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    Geno 2.0's "Scandinavian" estimate is actually reporting on your autosomal DNA which is inherited in a much different way from Y-DNA and mtDNA. Y-DNA and mtDNA are not involved in the estimates these companies make on your "ethnic" origins.
    Y-DNA: I-A14097(Scotland),
    Big Y: I-F2642>Y1966>Y3649>A13241>Y3647>A14097 (1,850 YBP)
    mtDNA: pending (Westeremden, Netherlands)
    Other lines:
    R-M222 x2, R-L21 x2, I-M223, R-S1141, R-U198 & R-U106, mtHg J1c3
    Known ancestry
    Paternal: Britain & Ireland, France and Germany
    Maternal: Netherlands

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