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    Hi spruithean,

    after some analize if A6397 are positioned in end Nordic Bronze Age and start Germanic Iron Age expansion, I can say that maybe my ethnic
    as more west nord german as scandinavian. If I will positive as S6402 or more maybe I will say my ethnic will be more scandinavian or
    south Denmark. But at today this is just theory ! I make a test with Gedmatch with archaic DNA Cm3, I have a lot of maches with BR Hungary 3.2ky.

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    Hi

    today I receive my results of Y DNA67 but honestly I don't understand
    I have lot markers with 12 ancestral DNA and 25 but nothing 37 and 67.
    This have a sense to buy Y DNA111 or Y DNA Full ?
    Last edited by claudefrancis; 10-05-2018 at 07:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claudefrancis View Post
    Hi

    today I receive my results of Y DNA67 but honestly I don't understand
    I have lot markers with 12 ancestral DNA and 25 but nothing 37 and 67.
    This have a sense to buy Y DNA111 or Y DNA Full ?
    If you are positive for S6402 that's likely to be Bronze Age not Iron Age if it does have an origin in the Nordic region. That's because it has a TMRCA of 3,000 ybp. Don't forget that any signals you see in ancestry tests like Gedmatch (including archaic ones) may have nothing directly to do with your Y DNA so you won't find any clues there. Your autosomal DNA and Y DNA are different things requiring different tests. If you have the money, I would do Big Y and then upload to YFull. You might not find out everything you want to know now, but you will help to build the tree and could have new matches with other testers in future that will help you to discover more about where your ancestors lived. Oh, and I wouldn't pay too much attention to STRs. SNPs are what you need to focus on now.
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Hi JonikW,
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    maybe now I will buy only YDNA111 to help me to clean some STR very far. I have a lot of matches Germany, Sweden, Norway and England.
    After this analize I will concentrate my research for the SNP of this country with my A6397 or S6402 or more. My surname have a lot of evolution
    variation this is not the way to find my genealogy origin. The only way is genetic. If I can't go down under 1600, I can try to go up. I am now
    in nord Europe in bronze period with Y DNA I just must find the correct SNP to go up.

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    Hi JonikW,
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    maybe now I will buy only YDNA111 to help me to clean some STR very far. I have a lot of matches Germany, Sweden, Norway and England.
    After this analize I will concentrate my research for the SNP of this country with my A6397 or S6402 or more. My surname have a lot of evolution
    variation this is not the way to find my genealogy origin. The only way is genetic. If I can't go down under 1600, I can try to go up. I am now
    in nord Europe in bronze period with Y DNA I just must find the correct SNP to go up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claudefrancis View Post
    Hi JonikW,
    .
    maybe now I will buy only YDNA111 to help me to clean some STR very far. I have a lot of matches Germany, Sweden, Norway and England.
    After this analize I will concentrate my research for the SNP of this country with my A6397 or S6402 or more. My surname have a lot of evolution
    variation this is not the way to find my genealogy origin. The only way is genetic. If I can't go down under 1600, I can try to go up. I am now
    in nord Europe in bronze period with Y DNA I just must find the correct SNP to go up.
    Hi again Claudefrancis. I wouldn't bother with more STRs, especially given what they've shown so far. If you do Big Y I believe it includes the other STR tests anyway. STR testing alone would still leave you needing to know more about SNPs. It could be that you and one of the existing testers will form a branch together. That might then tell you a lot.
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Hi JonikW,
    I will buy Y DNA111, now I am testing S6402. If S6402 will be postive a I will test the SNP branch of Sweden if S6402 will be negative I will test the SNP branch Germany and SNP branch Ireland/Scotland. But my opinion is that the way is Germany.
    This is the result of Y DNA67 and will be more fine with Y DNA111.
    If I have money next year I will test the Big Y, but honestly with the help of you and the forum all will be more easy. Thanks
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    Great. Keep us updated and I wish you all the best.
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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    Hi

    after a better analyse of ftdna I will change my tests in the futur.
    At the moment I am A6397 and I am testing now S6402 with ftdna.
    I buy Y dna111 and I buy mtdna. After the results of my Y DNA67
    I was desapoited, no matches Y DNA37 and no matches Y DNA67.
    People ask me to buy Big Y but sincerly after reflextion pay 449 USD
    is a lot money to have what ?
    Now I just wait the results of Y DNA111 but I am sure no matches or
    maximum 2/3 matches very far.
    About SNP I ask ftdna to buy under A6397 but the company inform me the new SNP are into
    Big Y. I prefer try the way yseq. If S6402 will positive there is some subclade
    to test. If S6402 negative there is A6412 and I can test it with yseq. If A6412 will be negative
    there is the last one A6613 but at the moment yseq doens't have it I just must
    wait. But 449 USD is a good reason to wait.
    Last edited by claudefrancis; 10-07-2018 at 02:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by claudefrancis View Post
    Hi

    after a better analyse of ftdna I will change my tests in the futur.
    At the moment I am A6397 and I am testing now S6402 with ftdna.
    I buy Y dna111 and I buy mtdna. After the results of my Y DNA67
    I was desapoited, no matches Y DNA37 and no matches Y DNA67.
    People ask me to buy Big Y but sincerly after reflextion pay 449 USD
    is a lot money to have what ?
    Now I just wait the results of Y DNA111 but I am sure no matches or
    maximum 2/3 matches very far.
    About SNP I ask ftdna to buy under A6397 but the company inform me the new SNP are into
    Big Y. I prefer try the way yseq. If S6402 will positive there is some subclade
    to test. If S6402 negative there is A6412 and I can test it with yseq. If A6412 will be negative
    there is the last one A6613 but at the moment yseq doens't have it I just must
    wait. But 449 USD is a good reason to wait.
    Yseq is a good choice in my experience, if you're not ready to do Big Y. You can "wish a SNP" there and they will test it for you:
    http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=108
    Living DNA Cautious mode:
    South Wales Border-related ancestry: 86.8%
    Cornwall: 8%
    Cumbria-related ancestry: 5.2%
    Y line: Peak District, England. Big Y match: Scania, Sweden; TMRCA 1,280 ybp (YFull);
    mtDNA: traces to Glamorgan, Wales, 18th century. Mother's Y line (Wales): R-L21 L371

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