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  1. #321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    When you get a chance, can you try to give my dad's results the "JMcB treatment?" He's not an honorary Dutchman, but he is often a virtual Belgian on a lot of these

    (40/40/10/10 - Brit/German/Belgian/Ashkenazi)
    DewslothDad,0.126343650295533,0.138112000926784,0. 0467629631225396,0.0235791130028252,0.037237737713 2392,0.0108767357235524,0.00775535105588393,0.0036 9215384294858,0.00899904883862734,0.01293876385131 13,-0.00487165269698077,0.00644426411625098,-0.010406248123123,-0.00646826560988338,0.0118076661538172,0.002916971 03173823,-0.00143422452914458,0.000760131567559196,-0.00175977271259671,0.00350167959699342,-0.000374339418175538,0.00519341506140227,-0.00505315643929614,0.00650694398316137,0.00215549 530270887

    Thanks!
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgtsqfvg37...ewdad.png?dl=0

    [1] "distance%=1.2862"


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    Beaker_Czech,35.2
    Beaker_Bavaria,31
    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,9.6
    Beaker_France_South,5.4
    Beaker_Britain,3.2
    Baden_LCA,1.4
    Balkans_BA,1.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,1.2
    Scotland_N,1.2
    Beaker_Italy_North,1
    Beaker_Hungary,0.8
    Beaker_Poland,0.8
    England_N,0.8
    Anatolia_EBA,0.6
    Anatolia_MLBA_low_res,0.6
    Beaker_The_Netherlands,0.6
    Afanasievo,0.4
    Alberstedt_LN,0.4
    Balkans_ChL,0.4
    Beaker_Switzerland,0.4
    CWC_Germany,0.4
    Maros,0.4
    Anatolia_BA,0.2
    Battle_Axe_Sweden,0.2
    Beaker_France,0.2
    CWC_Baltic_early,0.2
    Globular_Amphora_Ukraine,0.2
    Hungary_BA,0.2
    Iberia_Central_CA,0.2
    Iberia_ChL,0.2
    Iberia_MN,0.2
    Ireland_MN,0.2
    Nordic_LN,0.2
    Poltavka_o,0.2
    Sweden_MN,0.2
    Vucedol_no_steppe,0.2

    pen=0:
    [1] "distance%=0.762"


    DewslothDad


    Beaker_Britain,17.6
    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,14
    Balkans_ChL,10.6
    Beaker_Czech,10.6
    Protoboleraz_LCA,8.2
    CWC_Baltic,7.2
    Afanasievo,5.8
    Beaker_Bavaria,4.4
    Beaker_Iberia,4
    Beaker_Italy_North,3.4
    Beaker_The_Netherlands,2.6
    Beaker_Poland,2.4
    Baden_LCA,2.2
    Anatolia_MLBA_low_res,2
    Beaker_France,2
    Globular_Amphora_Ukraine,2
    Beaker_Hungary,0.8
    CWC_Baltic_early,0.2
     
    Paper Trail MyHeritage K36 G25 Mod. FTDNA
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    Slovenian 6.25%
    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
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  3. #322
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trelvern View Post
    ph2ter
    Could you please put me on the plot and run the beak calc?
    Thanks.

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    Trelvern_scaled,0.132035,0.138112,0.057699,0.03423 8,0.033545,0.009761,-0.00282,0.000692,0.008181,0.012757,-0.002273,0.008692,-0.011596,-0.017891,0.020087,0.005171,-0.010952,-0.000253,0.002765,0.003252,0.001497,0.010634,0.003 328,0.009037,0.005628
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4em2u4uq0p...lvern.png?dl=0

    [1] "distance%=1.5507"


    Trelvern


    Beaker_Bavaria,34
    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,23.2
    Beaker_France_South,11.6
    Beaker_Czech,11.4
    Beaker_Britain,8.8
    Beaker_Hungary,2.4
    Beaker_Iberia,1.8
    Beaker_Poland,1.2
    Beaker_Switzerland,1
    Beaker_The_Netherlands,1
    CWC_Germany,0.6
    Afanasievo,0.4
    Globular_Amphora_Poland,0.4
    Iberia_Central_CA,0.4
    Petrovka_MLBA,0.4
    Balkans_ChL,0.2
    Beaker_Iberia_no_steppe,0.2
    Beaker_Italy_North,0.2
    Iberia_ChL,0.2
    Maros,0.2
    Scotland_N,0.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,0.2


    pen=0
    [1] "distance%=1.1706"


    Trelvern


    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,29.2
    Beaker_Britain,12
    Afanasievo,9.6
    Beaker_Italy_North,9.2
    Beaker_Bavaria,7.8
    Globular_Amphora_Poland,7.6
    Beaker_France_South,6.2
    Beaker_Iberia,5.4
    Beaker_Poland,5
    Beaker_Czech,4.2
    Baden_LCA,3.2
    Balkans_ChL,0.6
     
    Paper Trail MyHeritage K36 G25 Mod. FTDNA
    NW Croatian 87.5%
    Slovenian 6.25%
    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4em2u4uq0p...lvern.png?dl=0

    [1] "distance%=1.5507"


    Trelvern


    Beaker_Bavaria,34
    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,23.2
    Beaker_France_South,11.6
    Beaker_Czech,11.4
    Beaker_Britain,8.8
    Beaker_Hungary,2.4
    Beaker_Iberia,1.8
    Beaker_Poland,1.2
    Beaker_Switzerland,1
    Beaker_The_Netherlands,1
    CWC_Germany,0.6
    Afanasievo,0.4
    Globular_Amphora_Poland,0.4
    Iberia_Central_CA,0.4
    Petrovka_MLBA,0.4
    Balkans_ChL,0.2
    Beaker_Iberia_no_steppe,0.2
    Beaker_Italy_North,0.2
    Iberia_ChL,0.2
    Maros,0.2
    Scotland_N,0.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,0.2


    pen=0
    [1] "distance%=1.1706"


    Trelvern


    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,29.2
    Beaker_Britain,12
    Afanasievo,9.6
    Beaker_Italy_North,9.2
    Beaker_Bavaria,7.8
    Globular_Amphora_Poland,7.6
    Beaker_France_South,6.2
    Beaker_Iberia,5.4
    Beaker_Poland,5
    Beaker_Czech,4.2
    Baden_LCA,3.2
    Balkans_ChL,0.6
    Could you plot me and run mine through the calc when you have time please? I am quite admixed so I am not sure how accurate this will be but it is worth a try I think.

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    Jackson_Devoni,0.0109,0.012,0.0132,0.0107,0.0096,0 .0034,0.0022,0.0009,0,-0.0005,0.0019,-0.0011,-0.0048,-0.0022,0.0057,0.0043,-0.0048,0.0044,-0.0006,-0.0023,0.0019,0.0023,-0.0002,0.005,0.0034

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    Jackson_Devoni_scaled,0.124067188128046,0.12186353 0229515,0.0497799284852841,0.034561165634278,0.029 5439902518262,0.00948228242566103,0.00517023403725 595,0.00207683653665858,0,-0.000911180552909247,0.00308538004142115,-0.00164853268090141,-0.00713571299871288,-0.00302769879611562,0.00773605713525954,0.00570135 247112472,-0.00625843430899454,0.00557429816210077,-0.000754188305398592,-0.00287637966895888,0.00237081631511174,0.00284401 300981553,-0.000246495436063226,0.00602494813255683,0.0040714 9112733897

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4em2u4uq0p...lvern.png?dl=0

    [1] "distance%=1.5507"


    Trelvern


    Beaker_Bavaria,34
    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,23.2
    Beaker_France_South,11.6
    Beaker_Czech,11.4
    Beaker_Britain,8.8
    Beaker_Hungary,2.4
    Beaker_Iberia,1.8
    Beaker_Poland,1.2
    Beaker_Switzerland,1
    Beaker_The_Netherlands,1
    CWC_Germany,0.6
    Afanasievo,0.4
    Globular_Amphora_Poland,0.4
    Iberia_Central_CA,0.4
    Petrovka_MLBA,0.4
    Balkans_ChL,0.2
    Beaker_Iberia_no_steppe,0.2
    Beaker_Italy_North,0.2
    Iberia_ChL,0.2
    Maros,0.2
    Scotland_N,0.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,0.2


    pen=0
    [1] "distance%=1.1706"


    Trelvern


    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,29.2
    Beaker_Britain,12
    Afanasievo,9.6
    Beaker_Italy_North,9.2
    Beaker_Bavaria,7.8
    Globular_Amphora_Poland,7.6
    Beaker_France_South,6.2
    Beaker_Iberia,5.4
    Beaker_Poland,5
    Beaker_Czech,4.2
    Baden_LCA,3.2
    Balkans_ChL,0.6
    Thanks a lot
    The 2 beakers individuals i am closest are I0113 (Mittelelbe-Saale) and I6590 (Bavaria)

    Mapping_Beakers.jpg

    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale on the"superhighway"!


    Is there a link between BMS and funnelbeakerculture ?
    "It has been suggested that the Funnelbeaker culture was the origin of the gene allowing adults of Northern European descent to digest lactose"


    lactose.gif
    Last edited by Trelvern; 02-11-2019 at 08:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Could you plot me and run mine through the calc when you have time please? I am quite admixed so I am not sure how accurate this will be but it is worth a try I think.

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    Jackson_Devoni,0.0109,0.012,0.0132,0.0107,0.0096,0 .0034,0.0022,0.0009,0,-0.0005,0.0019,-0.0011,-0.0048,-0.0022,0.0057,0.0043,-0.0048,0.0044,-0.0006,-0.0023,0.0019,0.0023,-0.0002,0.005,0.0034

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    Jackson_Devoni_scaled,0.124067188128046,0.12186353 0229515,0.0497799284852841,0.034561165634278,0.029 5439902518262,0.00948228242566103,0.00517023403725 595,0.00207683653665858,0,-0.000911180552909247,0.00308538004142115,-0.00164853268090141,-0.00713571299871288,-0.00302769879611562,0.00773605713525954,0.00570135 247112472,-0.00625843430899454,0.00557429816210077,-0.000754188305398592,-0.00287637966895888,0.00237081631511174,0.00284401 300981553,-0.000246495436063226,0.00602494813255683,0.0040714 9112733897
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/l2e9260u4g...ckson.png?dl=0

    [1] "distance%=1.6364"


    Jackson_Devoni_scaled


    Beaker_Czech,47
    Beaker_Bavaria,31.4
    Scotland_CA_EBA,3.6
    Afanasievo,2.6
    Beaker_Britain,2.4
    Balkans_BA,2.2
    Beaker_Hungary,2
    Armenia_EBA,0.8
    Protoboleraz_LCA,0.8
    Baden_LCA,0.6
    CWC_Germany,0.6
    Globular_Amphora_Ukraine,0.6
    Poltavka,0.6
    Vucedol_no_steppe,0.6
    Anatolia_BA,0.4
    Anatolia_MLBA_low_res,0.4
    Balkans_ChL,0.4
    Beaker_Switzerland,0.4
    CWC_Baltic,0.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,0.4
    Anatolia_MLBA,0.2
    Beaker_Italy_North,0.2
    Beaker_Italy_North_no_steppe,0.2
    Peloponnese_N,0.2
    Poland_BA,0.2
    Potapovka_MLBA,0.2
    Yamnaya_Kalmykia,0.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,0.2
    Yamnaya_Ukraine_o,0.2


    pen=0
    [1] "distance%=1"


    Jackson_Devoni_scaled


    Beaker_Britain,24.2
    Baden_LCA,16.8
    Beaker_Czech,16.4
    Poltavka,12
    CWC_Baltic,9.6
    Anatolia_MLBA_low_res,6.2
    Potapovka_MLBA,5
    Minoan_Lasithi,4.2
    CWC_Germany,3.4
    Beaker_Bavaria,2.2
     
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    Slovenian 6.25%
    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/lgtsqfvg37...ewdad.png?dl=0

    [1] "distance%=1.2862"


    DewslothDad


    Beaker_Czech,35.2
    Beaker_Bavaria,31
    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,9.6
    Beaker_France_South,5.4
    Beaker_Britain,3.2
    Baden_LCA,1.4
    Balkans_BA,1.4
    Minoan_Lasithi,1.2
    Scotland_N,1.2
    Beaker_Italy_North,1
    Beaker_Hungary,0.8
    Beaker_Poland,0.8
    England_N,0.8
    Anatolia_EBA,0.6
    Anatolia_MLBA_low_res,0.6
    Beaker_The_Netherlands,0.6
    Afanasievo,0.4
    Alberstedt_LN,0.4
    Balkans_ChL,0.4
    Beaker_Switzerland,0.4
    CWC_Germany,0.4
    Maros,0.4
    Anatolia_BA,0.2
    Battle_Axe_Sweden,0.2
    Beaker_France,0.2
    CWC_Baltic_early,0.2
    Globular_Amphora_Ukraine,0.2
    Hungary_BA,0.2
    Iberia_Central_CA,0.2
    Iberia_ChL,0.2
    Iberia_MN,0.2
    Ireland_MN,0.2
    Nordic_LN,0.2
    Poltavka_o,0.2
    Sweden_MN,0.2
    Vucedol_no_steppe,0.2

    pen=0:
    [1] "distance%=0.762"


    DewslothDad


    Beaker_Britain,17.6
    Beaker_Mittelelbe-Saale,14
    Balkans_ChL,10.6
    Beaker_Czech,10.6
    Protoboleraz_LCA,8.2
    CWC_Baltic,7.2
    Afanasievo,5.8
    Beaker_Bavaria,4.4
    Beaker_Iberia,4
    Beaker_Italy_North,3.4
    Beaker_The_Netherlands,2.6
    Beaker_Poland,2.4
    Baden_LCA,2.2
    Anatolia_MLBA_low_res,2
    Beaker_France,2
    Globular_Amphora_Ukraine,2
    Beaker_Hungary,0.8
    CWC_Baltic_early,0.2
    Thank you! So far, only you and Dad have CWC_Baltic_early in both default and pen=0 versions. I was wondering if (in Dad's case) it was a hint at a remnant of a CWC Baltic path for DF19.

    Dad's Anatolia/Minoan is pretty clearly indicating his minor Ashkenazi hertitage, and probably responsible for nudging his marker on the dropbox plot in that direction from the rest of his ancestry.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Thank you! So far, only you and Dad have CWC_Baltic_early in both default and pen=0 versions. I was wondering if (in Dad's case) it was a hint at a remnant of a CWC Baltic path for DF19.

    Dad's Anatolia/Minoan is pretty clearly indicating his minor Ashkenazi hertitage, and probably responsible for nudging his marker on the dropbox plot in that direction from the rest of his ancestry.
    You mean I and your dad or someone else?
    Your dad's Baltic_Early is only noise. Huijbregts said that we should stick with pen=0.001 and ignore these little admixtures (under 1% or 0.5%).
    Yes, his Asheknazi pulls him toward south.
     
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    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
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    Plot this guy from Naples:

    Jericho_scaled,0.104717,0.150298,-0.012822,-0.048773,0.01231,-0.008925,0.00376,-0.000231,0.007567,0.023144,-0.007145,0.009292,-0.006392,-0.000413,-0.008822,-0.005038,0.007302,-0.003167,-0.002011,-0.008129,-0.006738,0.003957,-0.001849,0.004217,-0.005987

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    I2a1a2b (Y5596>A815)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf View Post
    Plot this guy from Naples:

    Jericho_scaled,0.104717,0.150298,-0.012822,-0.048773,0.01231,-0.008925,0.00376,-0.000231,0.007567,0.023144,-0.007145,0.009292,-0.006392,-0.000413,-0.008822,-0.005038,0.007302,-0.003167,-0.002011,-0.008129,-0.006738,0.003957,-0.001849,0.004217,-0.005987
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/i3g577puvw...richo.png?dl=0
     
    Paper Trail MyHeritage K36 G25 Mod. FTDNA
    NW Croatian 87.5%
    Slovenian 6.25%
    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    You mean I and your dad or someone else?
    Your dad's Baltic_Early is only noise. Huijbregts said that we should stick with pen=0.001 and ignore these little admixtures (under 1% or 0.5%).
    Yes, his Asheknazi pulls him toward south.
    Thanks! I'm not sure CWC_Baltic_Early is only noise. It may be pointing at a small bit of Baltic ancestry. See:

    CWCrunnertop.JPG
    second half:
    cwcrunnerbot.JPG

    ^^Mind you the above is with pen=0 and so by Huijbregts' rules it's not valid, anyway.
    Just having fun and looking under rocks.
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112 (S17075-)

    Y-cousin: 6DRIF-23 (DF19>>Z17112+, S17075+)

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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