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    Quote Originally Posted by Camulogène Rix View Post
    According the paper, they might be non local. Furthermore Z27 belongs to Z2 'kindred', in this respect he could be mixed, as suggested by his autosomal admixture (50-70% North).

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    This again blurs our understanding of those supposed locals, who maybe were not locals.
     
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    I guess this article gives a hint towards the origin and spread of the Longobards.
    https://www.ias.edu/ideas/2013/geary-history-genetics

    From the same heartland the Saxons (Chauci) went to Northeastern Dutch and to England. The added picture:


    That's why I resemble them.

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    in add, see this overlap between the early Anglo-Saxon and the different Longobards:


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    LTG,Conqueror,Idwaajeden,Jackson_Devoni,Mixed,Nibe lung,sheepslay3r,Eihwaz,Nibelung_uncle,Alstrohma,S on_Rabai,Dad_Rabai,Titane,Molfish,Camulogene_Rix,f iremonkey,DewslothDad,firemonkey_father,JMcB,Radbo ud,D_Marker,Garimund,Jessie,Dorkymon,Alstrohma,Ang lecynn,Finn,Tomenable,Sktibo,Lugius,DewslothDad,Ti mberwolf,Garimund_mother,Vestri,randwulf_d,randwul f_m,randwulf,randwulf_w,randwulf_fil,DavidR,eolien ,Mitchell,Huijbregts,Jackson_Devoni,Cheryl_Montgom ery,Albert_Sanders,Mary_Curley

    are on the G25 plot:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ipglg0mhi...5Plot.png?dl=0
     
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    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    The next users:

    LTG,Conqueror,Idwaajeden,Jackson_Devoni,Mixed,Nibe lung,sheepslay3r,Eihwaz,Nibelung_uncle,Alstrohma,S on_Rabai,Dad_Rabai,Titane,Molfish,Camulogene_Rix,f iremonkey,DewslothDad,firemonkey_father,JMcB,Radbo ud,D_Marker,Garimund,Jessie,Dorkymon,Alstrohma,Ang lecynn,Finn,Tomenable,Sktibo,Lugius,DewslothDad,Ti mberwolf,Garimund_mother,Vestri,randwulf_d,randwul f_m,randwulf,randwulf_w,randwulf_fil,DavidR,eolien ,Mitchell,Huijbregts,Jackson_Devoni,Cheryl_Montgom ery,Albert_Sanders,Mary_Curley

    are on the G25 plot:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ipglg0mhi...5Plot.png?dl=0
    Interesting thank you...My name is there twice?...I am Jackson_Devoni.

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    Also it is interesting to note that I seem to plot almost right on the border of the Austrian and Hungarian clusters. This is where I have always plotted on other admixture tests and calculators as well. My unique genetic mix makes me look generally either Austrian or Hungarian (Central European).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    I don't understand how can Longobard samples from Hungary/Szolad plot among the North Italians before their migration to North Italy.
    It can mean that the population living in that time in Hungary was similar to today's Italians.
    I read the study aswell and don't understand this. Could it because the old roman provinces in that zone? And that later germanic+slavic migrations changed modern Hungary genetically?

    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Also it is interesting to note that I seem to plot almost right on the border of the Austrian and Hungarian clusters. This is where I have always plotted on other admixture tests and calculators as well. My unique genetic mix makes me look generally either Austrian or Hungarian (Central European).
    What is your ancestry then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    I read the study aswell and don't understand this. Could it because the old roman provinces in that zone? And that later germanic+slavic migrations changed modern Hungary genetically?



    What is your ancestry then?
    As far as I know I am 25% Italian (Calabria region), 25% Finnish and 50% Irish/British Isles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    The next users:

    LTG,Conqueror,Idwaajeden,Jackson_Devoni,Mixed,Nibe lung,sheepslay3r,Eihwaz,Nibelung_uncle,Alstrohma,S on_Rabai,Dad_Rabai,Titane,Molfish,Camulogene_Rix,f iremonkey,DewslothDad,firemonkey_father,JMcB,Radbo ud,D_Marker,Garimund,Jessie,Dorkymon,Alstrohma,Ang lecynn,Finn,Tomenable,Sktibo,Lugius,DewslothDad,Ti mberwolf,Garimund_mother,Vestri,randwulf_d,randwul f_m,randwulf,randwulf_w,randwulf_fil,DavidR,eolien ,Mitchell,Huijbregts,Jackson_Devoni,Cheryl_Montgom ery,Albert_Sanders,Mary_Curley

    are on the G25 plot:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ipglg0mhi...5Plot.png?dl=0
    Hi ph2ter,

    Could my mother be added to the PCA? Here are her unscaled coordinates:

    Eihwaz_Mother,0.01,0.0134,0.004,-0.0092,0.0088,-0.0054,0.0028,0.002,0.0001,0.005,0.0028,0.0024,-0.004,0.009,-0.0018,-0.007,-0.005,-0.0016,-0.0071,-0.0054,0.0031,0.0068,-0.0009,-0.0001,0.0006
    1 Jew_Ashkenazy_Poland +Volga-German Custom:AGUser_Eihwaz 1.7783 85.83 14.17

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    My mother Cheryl_Montgomery seems to cluster right within the red triangle in Britain. She is very close to one of the Swedish Viking Sigtuna samples which is interesting.

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