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    the Kurgan of Silivri

    Hi,

    Two years ago, the discovery of a very old kurgan (5000 years old) at Silivri (Istanbul) has been made public:
    http://arkeofili.com/silivride-bronz...mezar-bulundu/

    Does everybody know if the results have been published and if DNA have been extracted?

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    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tom...scovery--99235
    I found an english article on it too. Interesting stuff.
    Edit: i see you already posted the english one in another thread
    Last edited by ernekar; 02-25-2018 at 08:48 AM.

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    Maybe it will be part of the research group that received the grant for ancient samples across Turkey.
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    I found a reference to Silivri in a recent book but I can't read it, since I don't speak Turk
    https://books.google.fr/books?id=Mcp...%20dna&f=false

    From what I understand, some results are known with a new dating (1200/1100 BC), but it seems it is more about findings in Besiktas:
    http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/kitap-san...zleri-40622781
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ear...stanbul-121444

    Could somebody translate this part of the book? Some DNA testing seems to have been tried.

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    I found a reference to Silivri in a recent book but I can't read it, since I don't speak Turk
    https://books.google.fr/books?id=Mcp...%20dna&f=false

    From what I understand, some results are known with a new dating (1200/1100 BC), but it seems it is more about findings in Besiktas:
    http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/kitap-san...zleri-40622781
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ear...stanbul-121444

    Could somebody translate this part of the book? Some DNA testing seems to have been tried.

    Besiktas kurgans could be linked with Phrygians.

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    It does not say they are testing or tested the dna, it just says it would be better dated with the testing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffoucart View Post
    I found a reference to Silivri in a recent book but I can't read it, since I don't speak Turk
    https://books.google.fr/books?id=Mcp...%20dna&f=false

    From what I understand, some results are known with a new dating (1200/1100 BC), but it seems it is more about findings in Besiktas:
    http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/kitap-san...zleri-40622781
    http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/ear...stanbul-121444

    Could somebody translate this part of the book? Some DNA testing seems to have been tried.

    Besiktas kurgans could be linked with Phrygians.
    ffoucart, your latest links basically claim that kurgan = Turkic or Altaic peoples and that Anatolia and environs have been inhabited by Turks since the early Iron Age at the latest, which are of course nonsense. On the DNA testing, Afshar is right. I agree with your inference about Phrygians, Thracians are another option.
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