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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    Is that the MN farmer-like outlier? If so, then deep in the French cluster. But it's unlikely that people like this can explain England_IA, which comes much later.
    It was a rhetorical question, a bit cheeky of me.

    I just don't think we have enough ancient samples to say when the southern shift occurred in Britain but I'm not taking a strong stance either way.

    "distance%=1.9846"
    England_CA_EBA:I2462
    Beaker_Britain,70.4
    Neolithic_Britain,29.6
    My ancestry: 53% S Eng, 2% N Eng, 39% Ire, 6% S Wal
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    I separated the G25 Beaker_Central_Europe references into countries.

    This is a bit of a strange result, where Beaker_Czechia increases over time in England, which could be interpreted as a signal of increasing continental movements into the Isles from the Beaker>nětice>Tumulus>Urnfield>Hallstatt>La Tne line, except Beaker_Czechia isn't the dominant ancestral component in the G25 Unetice or Czech_EBA samples and one Hallstatt_Bylany has reasonably high Beaker_Czechia and one doesn't.

    Attachment 26439

    If Beaker_Czechia is a sign of something continental Celtic-like then I have the highest score on record. This is a tricky model to interpret.

    If many of my ancestors, or those I've inherited from, came to the Isles late this could be one explanation. This is my mother line apparently arriving late:

    Attachment 26440
    Last edited by Capitalis; 10-04-2018 at 08:12 AM. Reason: Added new chart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalis View Post
    I separated the G25 Beaker_Central_Europe references into countries.

    This is a bit of a strange result, where Beaker_Czechia increases over time in England, which could be interpreted as a signal of increasing continental movements into the Isles from the Beaker>nětice>Tumulus>Urnfield>Hallstatt>La Tne line, except Beaker_Czechia isn't the dominant ancestral component in the G25 Unetice or Czech_EBA samples and one Hallstatt_Bylany has reasonably high Beaker_Czechia and one doesn't.

    Attachment 26439

    If Beaker_Czechia is a sign of something continental Celtic-like then I have the highest score on record. This is a tricky model to interpret.

    If many of my ancestors, or those I've inherited from, came to the Isles late this could be one explanation. This is my mother line apparently arriving late:

    Attachment 26440
    Very interesting! You certainly do have a lot of Czechia! Mine look about what I would expect but as you say, I’m not sure how this should be interpreted. At any rate, it’s nice to see them separated by counties.
    Known Paper Trail: 45.3% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian. Or: 87.5% British Isles, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Very interesting! You certainly do have a lot of Czechia! Mine look about what I would expect but as you say, I’m not sure how this should be interpreted. At any rate, it’s nice to see them separated by counties.
    It's a head scratcher; perhaps Beaker_Czechia moved west/northwest immediately after the Beaker period and kept going, as it's highest in modern Dutch (61%), Austrians (60%) and Germans (55%). This would mean Czech_EBA (25%) is not the direct descendant of Beaker_Czechia and the migrations to the Isles came from the west of Czechia throughout the Bronze and Iron Ages. Beaker_SE_Germany is a common pairing when individuals/groups have high Beaker_NW_Czechia, which is logical as they're next door to one another. Maybe I've found a proto-Celtic signal?

    Beaker_NW_Czechia + Beaker_SE_Germany %total:

    73.4 French_East
    69.8 Welsh
    69.0 Dutch
    67.4 German
    65.6 Belgian
    64.4 Austrian
    58.0 English
    57.4 French
    55.4 English_Cornwall
    51.0 Scottish
    43.0 Irish

    I'm just thinking out loud; don't feel pressured to reply, I realise I'm out on a ledge again (the best place to be).

    Here are the three England_IA individuals:

    "distance%=1.7387"
    England_IA:HI1-I0156
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,24.2
    Beaker_C_England,14
    Beaker_NE_England,4.6
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,4.4
    Beaker_S_England,0.4
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,28.8
    Beaker_SE_Germany,8.6
    Beaker_SE_France,3
    Beaker_SW_Poland,3
    Beaker_Iberia,2.6
    Beaker_Netherlands,2.2
    Beaker_C_Germany,2
    Beaker_N_Hungary,1
    Beaker_S_Germany,1
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.2

    "distance%=2.2818"
    England_IA:L-I0789
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,4.6
    Beaker_NE_England,2.4
    Beaker_S_England,2.4
    Beaker_C_England,2.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,32.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,21.6
    Beaker_N_Hungary,12.6
    Beaker_S_Germany,11.8
    Beaker_Netherlands,4.8
    Beaker_E_France,4.6
    Beaker_SW_Poland,0.2

    "distance%=1.6367"
    England_IA:M1489
    Beaker_S_England,1.8
    Beaker_NE_England,1.6
    Beaker_C_England,0.4
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.4
    Beaker_NE_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,78
    Beaker_SE_Germany,6.6
    Beaker_E_France,3.4
    Beaker_S_Germany,2.8
    Beaker_Netherlands,1.8
    Beaker_SE_France,0.8
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.6
    Beaker_C_Germany,0.4
    Beaker_N_Hungary,0.4
    Beaker_SE_Poland,0.4
    Beaker_Iberia,0.2
    Beaker_SW_Poland,0.2

    And some Germanic population averages:

    "distance%=0.975"
    Hungary_Medieval_Szolad
    Beaker_NE_England,2.4
    Beaker_S_England,0.6
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,62.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,18
    Beaker_N_Hungary,7.4
    Beaker_S_Germany,3.8
    Beaker_C_Germany,1.4
    Beaker_E_France,1
    Beaker_NE_Czechia,0.8
    Beaker_SE_France,0.6
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.4
    Beaker_Netherlands,0.4
    Beaker_SW_Poland,0.4

    "distance%=1.2065"
    Italy_Medieval_Collegno
    Beaker_NE_England,2.4
    Beaker_NE_Scotland,0.8
    Beaker_C_England,0.2
    Beaker_S_England,0.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,68.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,13.2
    Beaker_N_Hungary,3.6
    Beaker_S_Germany,3.6
    Beaker_N_Italy,3
    Beaker_SE_France,2.2
    Beaker_C_Germany,1.4
    Beaker_E_France,0.4
    Beaker_Netherlands,0.2

    "distance%=1.3767"
    Germany_Medieval
    Beaker_S_England,12.2
    Beaker_NE_England,8.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,4.4
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,46.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,9.4
    Beaker_S_Germany,7.2
    Beaker_SW_Poland,6.8
    Beaker_N_Hungary,2
    Beaker_SE_France,1.6
    Beaker_Netherlands,1
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.6

    "distance%=1.5014"
    Poprad
    Beaker_NE_England,4
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,1.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.6
    Beaker_S_England,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,78
    Beaker_N_Hungary,6.4
    Beaker_SE_Germany,3.6
    Beaker_S_Germany,1.8
    Beaker_SE_France,1.8
    Beaker_C_Germany,1
    Beaker_Netherlands,0.8
    Beaker_Iberia,0.6

    Finally:

    "distance%=1.4225"
    JMcB
    Beaker_NE_England,24.2
    Beaker_S_England,1.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.6
    Beaker_C_England,0.4
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,47.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,11
    Beaker_C_Germany,6.4
    Beaker_Iberia,5.6
    Beaker_N_Hungary,1.2
    Beaker_SE_France,1.2
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.6

    "distance%=2.6022"
    FionnSneachta
    Beaker_NE_Scotland,31.6
    Beaker_NE_England,28.4
    Beaker_S_England,18
    Beaker_C_England,6.4
    Beaker_SE_France,7
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,6.4
    Beaker_Iberia,2
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.2
    Last edited by Capitalis; 10-05-2018 at 04:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalis View Post
    It's a head scratcher; perhaps Beaker_Czechia moved west/northwest immediately after the Beaker period and kept going, as it's highest in modern Dutch (61%), Austrians (60%) and Germans (55%). This would mean Czech_EBA (25%) is not the direct descendant of Beaker_Czechia and the migrations to the Isles came from the west of Czechia throughout the Bronze and Iron Ages. Beaker_SE_Germany is a common pairing when individuals/groups have high Beaker_NW_Czechia, which is logical as they're next door to one another. Maybe I've found a proto-Celtic signal?

    Beaker_NW_Czechia + Beaker_SE_Germany %total:

    73.4 French_East
    69.8 Welsh
    69.0 Dutch
    67.4 German
    65.6 Belgian
    64.4 Austrian
    58.0 English
    57.4 French
    55.4 English_Cornwall
    51.0 Scottish
    43.0 Irish

    I'm just thinking out loud; don't feel pressured to reply, I realise I'm out on a ledge again (the best place to be).

    Here are the three England_IA individuals:

    "distance%=1.7387"
    England_IA:HI1-I0156
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,24.2
    Beaker_C_England,14
    Beaker_NE_England,4.6
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,4.4
    Beaker_S_England,0.4
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,28.8
    Beaker_SE_Germany,8.6
    Beaker_SE_France,3
    Beaker_SW_Poland,3
    Beaker_Iberia,2.6
    Beaker_Netherlands,2.2
    Beaker_C_Germany,2
    Beaker_N_Hungary,1
    Beaker_S_Germany,1
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.2

    "distance%=2.2818"
    England_IA:L-I0789
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,4.6
    Beaker_NE_England,2.4
    Beaker_S_England,2.4
    Beaker_C_England,2.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,32.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,21.6
    Beaker_N_Hungary,12.6
    Beaker_S_Germany,11.8
    Beaker_Netherlands,4.8
    Beaker_E_France,4.6
    Beaker_SW_Poland,0.2

    "distance%=1.6367"
    England_IA:M1489
    Beaker_S_England,1.8
    Beaker_NE_England,1.6
    Beaker_C_England,0.4
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.4
    Beaker_NE_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,78
    Beaker_SE_Germany,6.6
    Beaker_E_France,3.4
    Beaker_S_Germany,2.8
    Beaker_Netherlands,1.8
    Beaker_SE_France,0.8
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.6
    Beaker_C_Germany,0.4
    Beaker_N_Hungary,0.4
    Beaker_SE_Poland,0.4
    Beaker_Iberia,0.2
    Beaker_SW_Poland,0.2

    And some Germanic population averages:

    "distance%=0.975"
    Hungary_Medieval_Szolad
    Beaker_NE_England,2.4
    Beaker_S_England,0.6
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,62.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,18
    Beaker_N_Hungary,7.4
    Beaker_S_Germany,3.8
    Beaker_C_Germany,1.4
    Beaker_E_France,1
    Beaker_NE_Czechia,0.8
    Beaker_SE_France,0.6
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.4
    Beaker_Netherlands,0.4
    Beaker_SW_Poland,0.4

    "distance%=1.2065"
    Italy_Medieval_Collegno
    Beaker_NE_England,2.4
    Beaker_NE_Scotland,0.8
    Beaker_C_England,0.2
    Beaker_S_England,0.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,68.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,13.2
    Beaker_N_Hungary,3.6
    Beaker_S_Germany,3.6
    Beaker_N_Italy,3
    Beaker_SE_France,2.2
    Beaker_C_Germany,1.4
    Beaker_E_France,0.4
    Beaker_Netherlands,0.2

    "distance%=1.3767"
    Germany_Medieval
    Beaker_S_England,12.2
    Beaker_NE_England,8.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,4.4
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,46.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,9.4
    Beaker_S_Germany,7.2
    Beaker_SW_Poland,6.8
    Beaker_N_Hungary,2
    Beaker_SE_France,1.6
    Beaker_Netherlands,1
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.6

    "distance%=1.5014"
    Poprad
    Beaker_NE_England,4
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,1.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.6
    Beaker_S_England,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,78
    Beaker_N_Hungary,6.4
    Beaker_SE_Germany,3.6
    Beaker_S_Germany,1.8
    Beaker_SE_France,1.8
    Beaker_C_Germany,1
    Beaker_Netherlands,0.8
    Beaker_Iberia,0.6

    Finally:

    "distance%=1.4225"
    JMcB
    Beaker_NE_England,24.2
    Beaker_S_England,1.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.6
    Beaker_C_England,0.4
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,47.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,11
    Beaker_C_Germany,6.4
    Beaker_Iberia,5.6
    Beaker_N_Hungary,1.2
    Beaker_SE_France,1.2
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.6

    "distance%=2.6022"
    FionnSneachta
    Beaker_NE_Scotland,31.6
    Beaker_NE_England,28.4
    Beaker_S_England,18
    Beaker_C_England,6.4
    Beaker_SE_France,7
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,6.4
    Beaker_Iberia,2
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.2

    Thank you, Capitalis, it’s nice to see my numbers compared to FionnSneachta who’s a true Irishman. Whereas, my Isles is approximately 60% English and most of that from SC & SE England. So I seem to be shifted towards the continent with more of a Germanic influence.

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post491974

    Couldn’t help but notice the similarities here:

    "distance%=1.4225"
    JMcB
    Beaker_NE_England,24.2
    Beaker_S_England,1.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.6
    Beaker_C_England,0.4
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,47.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,11
    Beaker_C_Germany,6.4
    Beaker_Iberia,5.6
    Beaker_N_Hungary,1.2
    Beaker_SE_France,1.2
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.6

    distance%=1.3767"
    Germany_Medieval
    Beaker_S_England,12.2
    Beaker_NE_England,8.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,4.4
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,46.6
    Beaker_SE_Germany,9.4
    Beaker_S_Germany,7.2
    Beaker_SW_Poland,6.8
    Beaker_N_Hungary,2
    Beaker_SE_France,1.6
    Beaker_Netherlands,1
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.6

    Have you done David’s Celtic vs Germanic Plot?
    Last edited by JMcB; 10-05-2018 at 06:17 PM.
    Known Paper Trail: 45.3% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian. Or: 87.5% British Isles, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian.
    LivingDNA: 88.1% British Isles (59.7% English, 27% Scottish & 1.3% Irish), 5.9% Europe South (Aegian 3.4%, Tuscany 1.3%, Sardinia 1.1%), 4.4% Europe NW (Scandinavia) & 1.6% Europe East, (Mordovia).
    FT Big Y: I1-Z140 branch I-F2642 >Y1966 >Y3649 >A13241 >Y3647 >A13248 (circa 900 AD) >A13242/YSEQ (circa 1030 AD) >A13243/YSEQ (circa 1550 AD).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Thank you, Capitalis, it’s nice to see my numbers compared to FionnSneachta who’s a true Irishman. Whereas, my Isles is approximately 60% English and most of that from SC & SE England. So I seem to be shifted towards the continent with more of a Germanic influence.

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post491974

    […]

    Have you done David’s Celtic vs Germanic Plot?
    Not yet. What's the opposite of a true Irishman? Asking for a friend. Maybe my ancestors got off a boat from the continent to Ireland in 1800, took on local names and departed for Wales in 1850, leaving me fooled.
    My ancestry: 53% S Eng, 2% N Eng, 39% Ire, 6% S Wal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Capitalis View Post
    Not yet. What's the opposite of a true Irishman? Asking for a friend. Maybe my ancestors got off a boat from the continent to Ireland in 1800, took on local names and departed for Wales in 1850, leaving me fooled.
    A true Irishwoman. ;-)
    Known Paper Trail: 45.3% English, 29.7% Scottish, 12.5% Irish, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian. Or: 87.5% British Isles, 6.25% German & 6.25% Italian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    A true Irishwoman. ;-)
    I initially took that to mean that Irish women will take a boat anywhere... Then I got it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    - in this PCA sensitive to recent drift, take a look how England_IA cluster relative to Britain_&_Ireland_BA. And especially note the unusual position of one of the England_IA samples. This doesn't look like a bounce back in local Neolithic ancestry, because it's way too late (Iron Age), but rather like a new population coming in, probably from what is now France (Hallstatt? Belgae?).

    From your website:

    To check whether England_IA can be modeled as a mixture of Britain_&_Ireland_BA and Hallstatt with formal methods, I ran an analysis with the qpAdm software using all of the publicly available Bronze Age samples from present-day Britain and Ireland. The standard errors are high, likely because Britain_&_Ireland_BA and Hallstatt are closely related, but, overall, we can probably say that the model does limp across the line.

    England_IA
    Britain_&_Ireland_BA 0.5550.172
    Hallstatt 0.4450.172
    chisq 18.513
    tail prob 0.100973
    Full output

    However, the really important thing about this output is that England_IA cannot be modeled as simply Britain_&_Ireland_BA (the chisq and tail prob are way off). Thus, even though the Hallstatt samples from Bylany don't appear to be ideal proxies for the admixture in England_IA that is lacking in Britain_&_Ireland_BA, the signal they produce does suggest that a closely related population arrived in the British Isles during or after the Bronze Age to give rise to England_IA.
    This is my interpretation of what I've found; feel free to critique. I'm aware you don't like the accuracy of admixture analysis but am not sure if nMonte counts as such.

    The ancestral component that's been increasing in the Isles (most prominently in England) throughout the Bronze Age until the end of the Iron Age is apparently the blue 'Czechia' component found in Czechia Beakers. It's not a dominant component in Czech_EBA or Unetice however.

    Attachment 26513

    The reason why the two Hallstatt samples weren't the right population for your model was perhaps because DA111 has lower 'Czechia' than England_LBA (we're looking for higher) and although DA112 does have higher 'Czechia' it's not high enough to boost England_LBA to England_IA levels.

    The component we're looking for is basically whatever my ancestry is, which sounds very egotistical but I receive very high 'Czechia' (>80%) and I plot next to the unusual England_IA sample, which I agree is the general direction the population of Britain has been moving towards since the EBA, rather than towards Britain Neolithic. I was imagining a small impact of a Neolithic population with a large genetic difference but can now see that it's been a large impact of a post-Beaker population with a small genetic difference.

    I assume I would plot in a similar position as below on the new PCA, which puts me in the direction of NW France rather than the Netherlands. I interpret that to mean I've been less affected by post-Roman migrations than most and the K9 bar chart seems to support that.

    Attachment 26514

    Attachment 26515

    Instead of Central European Hallstatt I agree we're looking for a population falling between modern Belgium and NW France. I think immediately after the Beaker period either a Central European population settled Northern France and migrated continuously into the Isles for the next 2000 years (note the regular increases in the 'Czechia' component every era throughout the Bronze Age), or an unsampled Beaker population in Northern France was very similar to the Czechia Beakers.

    The modern Isles and especially the Cornish population also has a 'France' component that wasn't as prominent previously, indicating post-Roman movements into the Isles. Also, the 'Czechia' component seems to have a relationship with the 'SE Germany' component. See my post #24 above for more details if interested.

    "distance%=1.6361"
    England_IA:M1489 - unusual sample
    Beaker_S_England,2.6
    Beaker_NE_England,1.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.4
    Beaker_C_England,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,80.2
    Beaker_SE_Germany,6

    Beaker_E_France,2.4
    Beaker_N_Holland,2.4
    Beaker_S_Germany,1.6
    Beaker_N_Hungary,1
    Beaker_C_Spain,0.8
    Beaker_C_Germany,0.4
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.4
    Beaker_SE_France,0.4

    "distance%=1.6983"
    Me
    Beaker_NE_England,2.8
    Beaker_C_England,0.4
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,84.6
    Beaker_N_Hungary,3
    Beaker_SE_Germany,2.2
    Beaker_S_Germany,1.6
    Beaker_SW_Poland,1.6
    Beaker_C_Germany,1.2
    Beaker_N_Italy,1.2
    Beaker_N_Spain,0.4
    Beaker_SE_France,0.4
    Beaker_C_Spain,0.2

    "distance%=1.7609"
    Garimund
    Beaker_NE_England,13.2
    Beaker_C_England,0.8
    Beaker_S_England,0.4
    Beaker_SE_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_SW_Scotland,0.2
    Beaker_NW_Czechia,48.4
    Beaker_SE_Germany,23.6

    Beaker_C_Spain,5.2
    Beaker_SE_France,5
    Beaker_N_Spain,2.8
    Beaker_SW_Poland,0.2
    Last edited by Capitalis; 10-06-2018 at 05:21 AM. Reason: Images
    My ancestry: 53% S Eng, 2% N Eng, 39% Ire, 6% S Wal
    LivingDNA: 53% S Eng, 7% E Anglia, 15% SW Scot, 9% S Wal, 8% Brit Isles, 4.5% Basque/Sardinian/Tuscan, 3.4% Chechen/Indian/Kurdish

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  18. #30
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    Sex
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    Location
    Cardiff
    Ethnicity
    NW European
    Nationality
    Welsh
    Y-DNA
    R1b-U106 (Z306/S497)
    mtDNA
    H13a1a

    England Ireland Wales European Union
    Tidied up the groupings a bit.

    Attachment 26542

    distance%=0.6931
    Unetice
    Beaker_S_Germany_W_Czechia,37
    Beaker_N_Holland,26.2
    Beaker_S_England,15.6
    Beaker_C_Germany,5.6
    Beaker_E_Czechia_SW_Poland,5.4
    Beaker_N_Hungary,3.2
    LN_Sweden,2.8
    Beaker_NE_England,2.2
    Beaker_Scotland,1.8
    Beaker_SE_France,0.2

    distance%=1.7644
    Garimund
    S_Germany_W_Czechia,71.4
    NE_England,11
    Spain,8.2
    SE_France,6
    S_England,1.2
    Scotland,1.2
    E_Czechia_SW_Poland,0.8
    LN_Sweden,0.2

    distance%=1.4306
    JMcB
    S_Germany_W_Czechia,59.8
    NE_England,24.2
    C_Germany,5.6
    Spain,5
    N_Hungary,1.2
    SE_France,1.2
    N_Italy,1
    N_Holland,0.8
    Scotland,0.6
    S_England,0.4
    E_France_W_Germany,0.2

    distance%=1.9367
    Jessie
    S_Germany_W_Czechia,40.8
    NE_England,12.8
    E_Czechia_SW_Poland,12.6
    C_Germany,9.2
    N_Holland,6.8
    Scotland,6.6
    S_England,5.6
    SE_France,3.8
    N_Hungary,0.8
    Spain,0.8
    N_Italy,0.2

    distance%=2.596
    FionnSneachta
    Scotland,31
    NE_England,28.8
    S_England,23.6
    SE_France,8.2
    S_Germany_W_Czechia,6.8
    Spain,1.2
    N_Italy,0.4

    distance%=2.2728
    Finn
    S_Germany_W_Czechia,63.6
    Scotland,26.2
    NE_England,5.2
    Spain,1.4
    N_Hungary,1.2
    E_France_W_Germany,1
    SE_France,1
    E_Czechia_SW_Poland,0.2
    N_Italy,0.2

    distance%=2.0489
    Radboud
    S_Germany_W_Czechia,37.8
    S_England,26
    Scotland,14
    N_Hungary,9
    NE_England,8
    Spain,1.6
    C_Germany,1
    N_Holland,1
    N_Italy,0.6
    SE_France,0.6
    E_France_W_Germany,0.4

    distance%=1.713
    Me
    Beaker_S_Germany_W_Czechia,88.8
    Beaker_N_Hungary,3.2
    Beaker_NE_England,3
    Beaker_E_Czechia_SW_Poland,2.2
    Beaker_C_Germany,1.4
    Beaker_Spain,0.6
    Beaker_SE_France,0.4
    Beaker_N_Italy,0.2
    Beaker_S_England,0.2

    Data file is attached for anyone to run themselves.
    Last edited by Capitalis; 10-07-2018 at 09:36 PM.
    My ancestry: 53% S Eng, 2% N Eng, 39% Ire, 6% S Wal
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