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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    Might be the Mohyals. As Rahul77 mentioned, "Bakhshi is a title used by Potoharis. You had Anand Bakhshi and Bakhshi Ghulam Mohammed, both were Mohyals, the first one from Pindi and the other from Poonch."
    Not sure about Bakhshi Ghulam Mohammed, but Anand Bakhshi has family from Rawalpindi with origins allegedly in Kashmir.
    They could be Mohyals but things aren’t clear in Jammu. For example Sudan, Bali, Chhibber etc are all Mohyals and we intermarry with them and they call themselves Dogra. Even I have Sudan and Chhibber relatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bored View Post
    Bakshi is a common last name in Jammu too. Not sure what caste.
    I have dozens of Bakshis in my extended family. Even my Grandfather would use Bakshi, but as the title. Post-partition, it turned into a surname. That was funny.
    Last edited by Rahuls77; 04-20-2021 at 11:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rahuls77 View Post
    I have dozens of Bakshis in my extended family. Even my Grandfather would use Bakshi, but as the title. Post=partition, it turned into a surname. That was funny.
    Rahul, I think you’re the only person on this forum (besides me) who has been to Jammu and has knowledge about the people of Jammu province (Dogras, Poonchis, other Paharis). Everyone else thinks we’re either from Uttarakhand or Kashmiri lol. Just wanted to say that.

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    My other maternal cousins results (will be getting my friends very soon he is also a gakkhar) :

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 36.47
    2 S-Indian 33.04
    3 Caucasian 15.19
    4 NE-Euro 10.18
    5 Mediterranean 2.63
    6 Siberian 2.12
    7 NE-Asian 0.37

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_kayani987 View Post
    My other maternal cousins results (will be getting my friends very soon he is also a gakkhar) :

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 36.47
    2 S-Indian 33.04
    3 Caucasian 15.19
    4 NE-Euro 10.18
    5 Mediterranean 2.63
    6 Siberian 2.12
    7 NE-Asian 0.37
    Can you post the Oracle's too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_kayani987 View Post
    My other maternal cousins results (will be getting my friends very soon he is also a gakkhar) :

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 36.47
    2 S-Indian 33.04
    3 Caucasian 15.19
    4 NE-Euro 10.18
    5 Mediterranean 2.63
    6 Siberian 2.12
    7 NE-Asian 0.37
    Can you post the company your cousin tested with and SNP overlap. Information on SNP can be found on the end of the page displaying results as a pie chart.
    Your results along with this one makes 3 from your community (Gakhars) from Potohar. Thanks for sharing.
    Target: Kapisa_scaled
    Distance: 1.7453% / 0.01745296
    44.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
    35.0 UZB_Bustan_BA
    18.0 KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1
    2.6 MNG_East_N

    Mitochondrial Haplogroup: R30b found in Shahr-I-Sokhta_BA1 subclades found in Swat IA:Leobanr, Katelai & Barikot Historic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    Might be the Mohyals. As Rahul77 mentioned, "Bakhshi is a title used by Potoharis. You had Anand Bakhshi and Bakhshi Ghulam Mohammed, both were Mohyals, the first one from Pindi and the other from Poonch."
    Not sure about Bakhshi Ghulam Mohammed, but Anand Bakhshi has family from Rawalpindi with origins allegedly in Kashmir.
    https://forebears.io/surnames/bakshi

    The last name Bakhsi is found in every state in India. It is among the top 10 000 most popular names world wide.

    Bakshi is also used in my community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kapisa View Post
    Might be the Mohyals. As Rahul77 mentioned, "Bakhshi is a title used by Potoharis. You had Anand Bakhshi and Bakhshi Ghulam Mohammed, both were Mohyals, the first one from Pindi and the other from Poonch."
    Not sure about Bakhshi Ghulam Mohammed, but Anand Bakhshi has family from Rawalpindi with origins allegedly in Kashmir.
    Im confused about the dogra identity. Are dogras rajput or brahmins ??

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    Surname: Maira (Muslim); Y-Haplogroup: L-M357 ; mt-Haplogroup: R6
    *I have heard Maira last name in both muslims and non-muslims but not sure what baradari/clan it belongs to. Any ideas?
    results are low overlap and might not represent the whole group but this individual only.
    Kit: 23andme; SNPs used in this evaluation: 52526.

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 41.89
    2 S-Indian 29.66
    3 Caucasian 13.91
    4 NE-Euro 9
    5 SW-Asian 1.6
    6 Siberian 1.54
    7 SE-Asian 1.09
    8 Papuan 0.95
    9 W-African 0.28
    10 Mediterranean 0.07

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 sindhi (harappa) 3.9
    2 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 4.49
    3 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 4.57
    4 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 4.96
    5 punjabi-arain (xing) 5.22
    6 punjabi (harappa) 5.32
    7 kashmiri (harappa) 5.66
    8 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 5.81
    9 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 5.98
    10 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 6.13
    11 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 6.29
    12 sindhi (hgdp) 6.64
    13 pathan (hgdp) 6.7
    14 bhatia (harappa) 6.8
    15 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 7
    16 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 7.81
    17 kalash (hgdp) 9.03
    18 up-muslim (harappa) 9.56
    19 burusho (hgdp) 9.8
    20 nepalese-a (xing) 10.86

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 81.3% pathan (hgdp) + 18.7% velama (metspalu) @ 2.08
    2 80.1% pathan (hgdp) + 19.9% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 2.22
    3 81.1% pathan (hgdp) + 18.9% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 2.25
    4 80.2% pathan (hgdp) + 19.8% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 2.3
    5 66% kalash (hgdp) + 34% meghawal (reich) @ 2.33
    6 74.2% pathan (hgdp) + 25.8% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 2.38
    7 80.8% pathan (hgdp) + 19.2% karnataka (harappa) @ 2.4
    8 75.8% pathan (hgdp) + 24.2% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 2.41
    9 68.9% kalash (hgdp) + 31.1% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.42
    10 83% pathan (hgdp) + 17% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 2.43
    11 74.1% pathan (hgdp) + 25.9% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 2.44
    12 69.2% kalash (hgdp) + 30.8% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 2.45
    13 83% pathan (hgdp) + 17% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 2.45
    14 85% pathan (hgdp) + 15% vysya (reich) @ 2.45
    15 77.8% pathan (hgdp) + 22.2% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) @ 2.48
    16 68.5% kalash (hgdp) + 31.5% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.5
    17 67.5% kalash (hgdp) + 32.5% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 2.51
    18 73.2% pathan (hgdp) + 26.8% meghawal (reich) @ 2.52
    19 64.4% kalash (hgdp) + 35.6% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 2.52
    20 75.2% pathan (hgdp) + 24.8% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.53

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% kashmiri-pandit_reich +50% sindhi_harappa @ 2.832764
    Target: Kapisa_scaled
    Distance: 1.7453% / 0.01745296
    44.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
    35.0 UZB_Bustan_BA
    18.0 KAZ_Ak_Moustafa_MLBA1
    2.6 MNG_East_N

    Mitochondrial Haplogroup: R30b found in Shahr-I-Sokhta_BA1 subclades found in Swat IA:Leobanr, Katelai & Barikot Historic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karnalIroh View Post
    Im confused about the dogra identity. Are dogras rajput or brahmins ??
    Dogras are usually people from Jammu and districts of J&K around Jammu, such as Reasi, Udhampur. etc. Some tend to include Ramban, Doda & Kishtwar as the Dogra country, I mean their dialects are quite close to each other.

    A Dogra can be from any caste or religion.

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