South Asian HarappaWorld results

[Raza94]

Ansari match

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 41.49
2 Baloch 35.19
3 NE-Euro 9.03
4 Caucasian 6.83
5 SW-Asian 1.87
6 American 1.82
7 SE-Asian 1.32
8 Mediterranean 1.15
9 Siberian 1.11


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 bengali-brahmin_harappa @ 4.189979
2 bihari-muslim_harappa @ 4.307172
3 brahmin-uttar-pradesh_metspalu @ 4.346324
4 up-brahmin_harappa @ 4.867159
5 vaish_reich @ 4.876248
6 up-kshatriya_metspalu @ 5.506148
7 bihari-brahmin_harappa @ 5.550423
8 karnataka-brahmin_harappa @ 5.806263
9 gujarati-b_hapmap @ 6.075767
10 meghawal_reich @ 6.121325
11 maharashtrian_harappa @ 6.335270
12 gujarati_harappa @ 7.145339
13 kerala-brahmin_harappa @ 7.415364
14 brahmin-tamil-nadu_metspalu @ 7.707330
15 meena_metspalu @ 7.708578
16 tn-brahmin_xing @ 7.760880
17 iyer-brahmin_harappa @ 8.062362
18 iyengar-brahmin_harappa @ 8.064136
19 up-muslim_harappa @ 8.309292
20 ap-brahmin_xing @ 8.730501

[vishankar]

Yes this is more in line with the west coast.

We need much larger sample sets. The new Rai/Chaubey paper on R1a1 (~10000 samples, ~3000 R1a1) should be a good indicator for other haplogroups too. The Arunkumar Tamil data has a reasonable sample size of 1680.

For GSBs, for example, that sample set of 16 shows 1 Q1a3, 15 Ra1a (12 L657), but personally I know of GSB Ls (13% of the 115 samples are L).

yeah ....for such a populous country as India, low sample sizes have no statistical meaning.

[Kakazai_Pashtun]

I will not pay much attention to wiki history. We know Faisalabad region only become productive under British rule thanks to canals. You will not find any pashtun population there unlike what they say on wiki.

Here is interesting video about someone from Lahore who knows thing or two about punjabi muslim castes and their psychology. Kakezai are originally from east punjab, Gurdaspur/sialkot. They were merchant caste that used to bring horses from central asia. In punjab especially east punjab there were large colonies of influential pashtun/afghan population. Kakezai started claiming pashtun origin because of this. After that genetic result its now pretty clear their claims are fake and are actually of khatri hindu origin.




Here he talk about other jat, rajput, arain, gujjar and sheikh.






Now said this its possible there is actual pashtun kakezai tribe in Afghanistan. But this punjabi caste in particular isn't of pashtun origin. They added zai name relatively recently. Punjabi kakezai are mostly found Lahore and Sialkot nowdays.

@Bol_nat, I hope you are alright and in good health and staying safe from COVID-19 along with your family and friends.

Someone drew my attention to your comments on this forum.

I have gone through your comments and regret that you are simply focusing upon the theme that the Kakazai Pashtuns are ethnically Punjabi.

In your response, you have posted the above videos by Asir Ajmal.

Regarding Asir Ajmal, "An important and sad point that needs to be clarified is that Asir Ajmal (who is a psychologist and historically, genealogists, historians, and anthropologists have been tasked with identifying, researching, and providing information about the origins of different communities, nations, tribes, castes, etc., not psychologists.) was never asked nor invited by anyone, from anywhere, to give his opinion or put forward any kind of “theory” about the Kakazai living in Punjab or beyond. He put forward his amateur and controversial “theory” by himself, in order to propel his own YouTube channel. In other words, he used the Kakazai of Punjab and their background or history as a sport, game, a hobby, and/or bait for his YouTube channel that he could garner more views thereby earning some cheap fame and a few bucks." Source: Here

He admits by himself by saying, "I just presented a theory. I am not saying it is totally correct. But it is an interesting theory."

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I have written an extensive and well-researched response to Asir Ajamal's videos which can be found on the following URL: www.kakazai.com (Online since 2005):

"The Kakazai (Loi Mamund) Pashtuns of Punjab are only Pashtuns – A response to Asir Ajmal’s controversial theory"
https://kakazai.com/punjabs-kakazai-...ersial-theory/

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In response to your following comment:

"...this punjabi caste in particular isn't of pashtun origin. They added zai name relatively recently. Punjabi kakezai are mostly found Lahore and Sialkot nowadays."

With all due respect, I hope you will appreciate the fact that whatever has been written by the British and their colonial masters (i.e. bureaucrats) shouldn't be taken on an as-it-is basis nor as something written on the stone. After all, other communities including Pashtuns and Punjabis had been living in the sub-continent way before the British arrived.

Hence I would like to offer you the following:

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Source: The Afghan Nobility and The Mughals (1526-1707) - by Rita Joshi

And the following extensive and well-researched response:

"Does the Kakazai (Loi Mamund) Pashtuns of Punjab have any connection with the caste of Kalwar / Kalor / Kalwar (or Kalal, Kalal, Klar)?"
https://kakazai.com/does-the-kakazai...al-kalal-klar/


Please feel welcome to read them at your discretion since I didn't want to post the whole article here on this forum to avoid spamming or posting wall-of-text.

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The Kakazai, also known as Loye or Loi Mamund and a division of the Mamund clan, are part of the larger Tarkalani Pashtun tribe who are mainly settled in the Bajaur Agency, Pakistan but originally hailed from the Laghman province of Afghanistan. However, it has grown and scattered around to such an extent that it is recognized as a tribe of its own.

𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐟𝐮𝐫𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐚𝐤𝐚𝐳𝐚𝐢 𝐏𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐭𝐮𝐧𝐬, 𝐩𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞, 𝐯𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐭:

https://youtu.be/LmrTDsNQGGc (Kakazai Pashtuns Background in Pashto)
https://youtu.be/VJ1wyQb8Wlg (Kakazai Pashtuns Background in English)
https://youtu.be/yME7fb-1Sf4 (Kakazai Pashtuns Background in Urdu)

https://www.kakazai.com/ (𝐎𝐟𝐟𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥 𝐰𝐞𝐛-𝐬𝐢𝐭𝐞 | Online since 2005)
https://www.kakazai.com/library (𝐊𝐚𝐤𝐚𝐳𝐚𝐢 𝐏𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐭𝐮𝐧𝐬' 𝐕𝐢𝐫𝐭𝐮𝐚𝐥 𝐋𝐢𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐫&#119858
https://goo.gl/JGfQPY (𝐊𝐚𝐤𝐚𝐳𝐚𝐢 𝐏𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐭𝐮𝐧𝐬' 𝐕𝐢𝐫𝐭𝐮𝐚𝐥 𝐋𝐢𝐛𝐫𝐚𝐫𝐲 @ 𝐅𝐚𝐜𝐞𝐛𝐨𝐨&#119844
https://goo.gl/2EKfke (𝐏𝐡𝐨𝐭𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐦 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐊𝐚𝐤𝐚𝐳𝐚𝐢 𝐏𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐭𝐮𝐧&#119852
https://goo.gl/4huXSi (𝐅𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐫 𝐟𝐮𝐥𝐥 𝐨𝐟 𝐢𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐚𝐬𝐡𝐭𝐮𝐧𝐬' 𝐇𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐲 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐚&#119845

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Should you have further questions about the Kakazai Pashtuns or their history then I will be more than happy to answer.

𝐓𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐤 𝐲𝐨𝐮. 🙂 👍

[iyer]

Highest Ne eruo I have seen among any South indian and any South Indian brahmin.
# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 43.81
2 Baloch 34.22
3 NE-Euro 10.81
4 Caucasian 8.08
5 Beringian 1.17
6 NE-Asian 0.93
7 SE-Asian 0.61
8 Papuan 0.26
9 W-African 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 4.39
2 bihari-muslim (harappa) 4.59
3 vaish (reich) 4.76
4 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 4.85
5 up-brahmin (harappa) 5.47
6 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 5.77
7 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 5.92
8 maharashtrian (harappa) 6.16
9 meghawal (reich) 6.43
10 gujarati-b (hapmap) 6.66
11 brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) 7.08
12 gujarati (harappa) 7.09
13 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 7.43
14 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 7.64
15 tn-brahmin (xing) 7.68
16 rajasthani (harappa) 7.93
17 ap-brahmin (xing) 8.11
18 up (harappa) 8.85
19 srivastava (reich) 8.87
20 bihari (harappa) 9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.7% up-brahmin (harappa) + 9.3% irula (xing) @ 2.35
2 90.9% up-brahmin (harappa) + 9.1% pulliyar (metspalu) @ 2.54
3 91.3% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 8.7% russian (behar) @ 2.64
4 73.4% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 26.6% chenchu (reich) @ 2.71
5 92.5% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 7.5% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.8
6 80.8% kanjar (metspalu) + 19.2% urkarah (xing) @ 2.87
7 91.5% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 8.5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.9
8 86.4% up-brahmin (harappa) + 13.6% chenchu (reich) @ 2.92
9 91% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 9% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.96
10 91.5% up-brahmin (harappa) + 8.5% paniya (chaubey) @ 2.97
11 92% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 8% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.99
12 64.6% srivastava (reich) + 35.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.99
13 86.3% up-brahmin (harappa) + 13.7% north-kannadi (chaubey) @ 3.04
14 91.1% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 8.9% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 3.06
15 73.1% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 26.9% north-kannadi (chaubey) @ 3.1
16 80.7% up-brahmin (harappa) + 19.3% tharu (reich) @ 3.12
17 86.5% up-brahmin (harappa) + 13.5% hakkipikki (metspalu) @ 3.13
18 86.8% up-brahmin (harappa) + 13.2% kurumba (reich) @ 3.13
19 73.3% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 26.7% chenchu (reich) @ 3.15
20 82.5% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 17.5% paniya (chaubey) @ 3.18

He is a Tamil brahmin who is half Vadama Iyer and half Vadakalai Iyengar , Vadakalais are all Vadamas who converted so both groups will have no genetic difference and will be carbon copies of each other.

[vishankar]

Highest Ne eruo I have seen among any South indian and any South Indian brahmin.
# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 43.81
2 Baloch 34.22
3 NE-Euro 10.81
4 Caucasian 8.08
5 Beringian 1.17
6 NE-Asian 0.93
7 SE-Asian 0.61
8 Papuan 0.26
9 W-African 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 4.39
2 bihari-muslim (harappa) 4.59
3 vaish (reich) 4.76
4 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 4.85
5 up-brahmin (harappa) 5.47
6 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 5.77
7 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 5.92
8 maharashtrian (harappa) 6.16
9 meghawal (reich) 6.43
10 gujarati-b (hapmap) 6.66
11 brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) 7.08
12 gujarati (harappa) 7.09
13 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 7.43
14 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 7.64
15 tn-brahmin (xing) 7.68
16 rajasthani (harappa) 7.93
17 ap-brahmin (xing) 8.11
18 up (harappa) 8.85
19 srivastava (reich) 8.87
20 bihari (harappa) 9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.7% up-brahmin (harappa) + 9.3% irula (xing) @ 2.35
2 90.9% up-brahmin (harappa) + 9.1% pulliyar (metspalu) @ 2.54
3 91.3% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 8.7% russian (behar) @ 2.64
4 73.4% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 26.6% chenchu (reich) @ 2.71
5 92.5% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 7.5% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.8
6 80.8% kanjar (metspalu) + 19.2% urkarah (xing) @ 2.87
7 91.5% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 8.5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.9
8 86.4% up-brahmin (harappa) + 13.6% chenchu (reich) @ 2.92
9 91% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 9% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.96
10 91.5% up-brahmin (harappa) + 8.5% paniya (chaubey) @ 2.97
11 92% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 8% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.99
12 64.6% srivastava (reich) + 35.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.99
13 86.3% up-brahmin (harappa) + 13.7% north-kannadi (chaubey) @ 3.04
14 91.1% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 8.9% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 3.06
15 73.1% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 26.9% north-kannadi (chaubey) @ 3.1
16 80.7% up-brahmin (harappa) + 19.3% tharu (reich) @ 3.12
17 86.5% up-brahmin (harappa) + 13.5% hakkipikki (metspalu) @ 3.13
18 86.8% up-brahmin (harappa) + 13.2% kurumba (reich) @ 3.13
19 73.3% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 26.7% chenchu (reich) @ 3.15
20 82.5% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 17.5% paniya (chaubey) @ 3.18

He is a Tamil brahmin who is half Vadama Iyer and half Vadakalai Iyengar , Vadakalais are all Vadamas who converted so both groups will have no genetic difference and will be carbon copies of each other.

If the Baloch was in the 38- 39 range..he would fit in among some of the north west indian results we have seen....

[vishankar]

Here is a menon.....GEDMATCH one to many tool match of my malappuram mapilla muslim-

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 47.56
2 Baloch 37.84
3 Caucasian 5.45
4 NE-Euro 4.12
5 SW-Asian 2.07
6 Siberian 1.73
7 American 1.09


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 tn-brahmin_xing @ 2.383837
2 kerala-nair_harappa @ 2.830035
3 iyer-brahmin_harappa @ 2.888778
4 brahmin-tamil-nadu_metspalu @ 3.055076
5 iyengar-brahmin_harappa @ 3.078994
6 rajasthani_harappa @ 3.392263
7 meghawal_reich @ 3.562331
8 goan_harappa @ 3.646132
9 maharashtrian_harappa @ 3.776749
10 ap-brahmin_xing @ 3.998576
11 gujarati_harappa @ 4.155549
12 singapore-indian-b_sgvp @ 4.491120
13 karnataka-brahmin_harappa @ 4.578683
14 kerala-christian_harappa @ 4.822116
15 gujarati-b_hapmap @ 5.543659
16 up-kshatriya_metspalu @ 5.915993
17 kerala-brahmin_harappa @ 6.223508
18 meghawal_metspalu @ 6.227277
19 up_harappa @ 6.261028
20 kurmi_metspalu @ 7.013799

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% kerala-nair_harappa +50% tn-brahmin_xing @ 2.192201


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% meghawal_metspalu +25% meghawal_metspalu +25% punjabi-arain_xing @ 1.539751


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 gujarati-a_hapmap + meghawal_metspalu + naidu_reich + pathan_hgdp @ 1.490653
2 kerala-brahmin_harappa + punjabi-brahmin_harappa + velama_reich + velama_reich @ 1.499742
3 meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + punjabi-arain_xing @ 1.539751
4 meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.545505
5 gujarati-a_1000genomes + meghawal_metspalu + naidu_reich + pathan_hgdp @ 1.552659
6 bhatia_harappa + kerala-nair_harappa + naidu_reich + velama_reich @ 1.555316
7 meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_hgdp + srivastava_reich + velama_reich @ 1.567282
8 bhatia_harappa + naidu_reich + tn-brahmin_xing + velama_reich @ 1.586381
9 bhatia_harappa + iyengar-brahmin_harappa + naidu_reich + velama_reich @ 1.586442
10 gujarati-a_1000genomes + sindhi_harappa + srivastava_reich + velama_reich @ 1.592411
11 gujarati-a_1000genomes + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + punjabi_harappa @ 1.595350
12 gujarati-a_1000genomes + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.604271
13 bhatia_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + velama_reich + vysya_reich @ 1.604999
14 gujarati-a_hapmap + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_harappa @ 1.609452
15 gujarati-a_hapmap + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.609551
16 gujarati-a_1000genomes + kashmiri-pandit_reich + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu @ 1.615531
17 bhatia_harappa + iyer-brahmin_harappa + naidu_reich + velama_reich @ 1.630159
18 gujarati-a_hapmap + sindhi_harappa + srivastava_reich + velama_reich @ 1.633099
19 kerala-brahmin_harappa + meghawal_metspalu + punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.633779
20 bhatia_harappa + meghawal_reich + naidu_reich + velama_reich @ 1.645462

[tipirneni]

Here is a menon.....GEDMATCH one to many tool match of my malappuram mapilla muslim-

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 47.56
2 Baloch 37.84
3 Caucasian 5.45
4 NE-Euro 4.12
5 SW-Asian 2.07
6 Siberian 1.73
7 American 1.09


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 tn-brahmin_xing @ 2.383837
2 kerala-nair_harappa @ 2.830035
3 iyer-brahmin_harappa @ 2.888778
4 brahmin-tamil-nadu_metspalu @ 3.055076
5 iyengar-brahmin_harappa @ 3.078994
6 rajasthani_harappa @ 3.392263
7 meghawal_reich @ 3.562331
8 goan_harappa @ 3.646132
9 maharashtrian_harappa @ 3.776749
10 ap-brahmin_xing @ 3.998576
11 gujarati_harappa @ 4.155549
12 singapore-indian-b_sgvp @ 4.491120
13 karnataka-brahmin_harappa @ 4.578683
14 kerala-christian_harappa @ 4.822116
15 gujarati-b_hapmap @ 5.543659
16 up-kshatriya_metspalu @ 5.915993
17 kerala-brahmin_harappa @ 6.223508
18 meghawal_metspalu @ 6.227277
19 up_harappa @ 6.261028
20 kurmi_metspalu @ 7.013799

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% kerala-nair_harappa +50% tn-brahmin_xing @ 2.192201


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% meghawal_metspalu +25% meghawal_metspalu +25% punjabi-arain_xing @ 1.539751


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 gujarati-a_hapmap + meghawal_metspalu + naidu_reich + pathan_hgdp @ 1.490653
2 kerala-brahmin_harappa + punjabi-brahmin_harappa + velama_reich + velama_reich @ 1.499742
3 meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + punjabi-arain_xing @ 1.539751
4 meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.545505
5 gujarati-a_1000genomes + meghawal_metspalu + naidu_reich + pathan_hgdp @ 1.552659
6 bhatia_harappa + kerala-nair_harappa + naidu_reich + velama_reich @ 1.555316
7 meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_hgdp + srivastava_reich + velama_reich @ 1.567282
8 bhatia_harappa + naidu_reich + tn-brahmin_xing + velama_reich @ 1.586381
9 bhatia_harappa + iyengar-brahmin_harappa + naidu_reich + velama_reich @ 1.586442
10 gujarati-a_1000genomes + sindhi_harappa + srivastava_reich + velama_reich @ 1.592411
11 gujarati-a_1000genomes + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + punjabi_harappa @ 1.595350
12 gujarati-a_1000genomes + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.604271
13 bhatia_harappa + kerala-brahmin_harappa + velama_reich + vysya_reich @ 1.604999
14 gujarati-a_hapmap + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_harappa @ 1.609452
15 gujarati-a_hapmap + meghawal_metspalu + sindhi_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.609551
16 gujarati-a_1000genomes + kashmiri-pandit_reich + meghawal_metspalu + meghawal_metspalu @ 1.615531
17 bhatia_harappa + iyer-brahmin_harappa + naidu_reich + velama_reich @ 1.630159
18 gujarati-a_hapmap + sindhi_harappa + srivastava_reich + velama_reich @ 1.633099
19 kerala-brahmin_harappa + meghawal_metspalu + punjabi-ramgarhia_harappa + velama_reich @ 1.633779
20 bhatia_harappa + meghawal_reich + naidu_reich + velama_reich @ 1.645462

looks like half TN brahmin mixed

[iyer]

looks like half TN brahmin mixed

Artificial similarity.

[Kaazi]

Highest Ne eruo I have seen among any South indian and any South Indian brahmin.
# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 43.81
2 Baloch 34.22
3 NE-Euro 10.81
4 Caucasian 8.08
5 Beringian 1.17
6 NE-Asian 0.93
7 SE-Asian 0.61
8 Papuan 0.26
9 W-African 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 4.39
2 bihari-muslim (harappa) 4.59
3 vaish (reich) 4.76
4 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 4.85
5 up-brahmin (harappa) 5.47

..
He is a Tamil brahmin who is half Vadama Iyer and half Vadakalai Iyengar , Vadakalais are all Vadamas who converted so both groups will have no genetic difference and will be carbon copies of each other.

Interesting, this one's got UP Brahman like NE-Euro (+Caucasian). There's this one South Brahman profile from Xing et al that's around 24% Steppe whom I assume around 10-12% HW NE-Euro if it's not misled by its very poor coverage. The person scored 17% "European" on Zack's K=11.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sUc/edit#gid=0

Target: BV43:BV43
Distance: 3.4570% / 0.03457031 | R3P
72.8 Telugu_GBR:HG04025.SG
24.2 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA
3.0 UZB_Dzharkutan1_BA

[iyer]

Interesting, this one's got UP Brahman like NE-Euro (+Caucasian). There's this one South Brahman profile from Xing et al that's around 24% Steppe whom I assume around 10-12% HW NE-Euro if it's not misled by its very poor coverage. The person scored 17% "European" on Zack's K=11.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...sUc/edit#gid=0

Target: BV43:BV43
Distance: 3.4570% / 0.03457031 | R3P
72.8 Telugu_GBR:HG04025.SG
24.2 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA
3.0 UZB_Dzharkutan1_BA

Their is probs some variation between different subsects among South Indian brahmins .