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    Quote Originally Posted by naruto View Post
    this is the only one i could find. Its an altered spelling "tiagi", but must be a regional thing. has less euro than the other sample with slightly higher S.Indian, baloch, and caucasian. yeah i was surprised by the high med in that eastern up brahmin. I think gangetic plain brahmins get around 2%, but 3-4% is more rare.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 38.3
    2 Baloch 38.23
    3 NE-Euro 11
    4 Caucasian 7.98
    5 NE-Asian 2.19
    6 Mediterranean 1.46
    7 SE-Asian 0.41
    8 American 0.41
    9 SW-Asian 0.02

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 up-brahmin (harappa) 3.66
    2 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 5.29
    3 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 5.44
    4 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 5.55
    5 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 5.58
    6 nepalese-a (xing) 5.64
    7 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 6
    8 punjabi (harappa) 6.84
    9 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 7
    10 up-muslim (harappa) 7.07
    11 gujarati-b (hapmap) 7.26
    12 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 7.34
    13 vaish (reich) 7.54
    14 bihari-muslim (harappa) 7.92
    15 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 8.01
    16 meghawal (reich) 8.77
    17 gujarati (harappa) 9.04
    18 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 9.23
    19 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 9.38
    20 maharashtrian (harappa) 9.41

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 52.8% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 47.2% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2
    2 50.8% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 49.2% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.02
    3 57.1% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 42.9% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.19
    4 50.6% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 49.4% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.22
    5 60.1% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 39.9% vaish (reich) @ 2.26
    6 58.6% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 41.4% vaish (reich) @ 2.27
    7 58.6% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 41.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 2.34
    8 75.8% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 24.2% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.39
    9 74.6% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 25.4% srivastava (reich) @ 2.4
    10 66.6% up-brahmin (harappa) + 33.4% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.42
    11 72.2% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 27.8% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.46
    12 75.1% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 24.9% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.47
    13 76.5% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 23.5% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.52
    14 88.4% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 11.6% chenchu (reich) @ 2.53
    15 67% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 33% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.53
    16 63.7% up-brahmin (harappa) + 36.3% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.53
    17 79.4% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 20.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.54
    18 56.9% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 43.1% punjabi (harappa) @ 2.57
    19 67.3% vaish (reich) + 32.7% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.58
    20 50.8% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 49.2% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.6
    This one could also be a Gujarati Brahmin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    The NEEuro-to-Caucasian and SIndian-to-Baloch proportions look very similar between these samples. Do you have more Tyagi samples? What is interesting is that the "Mediterranean" is missing in the WestUP Tyagi, but is over 3.5% in EastUP.

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    Sample: poi-wife-wgs-raw
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    Results: S-Indian 34.66
    Baloch 33.47
    NE-Euro 16.42
    Caucasian 5.46
    NE-Asian 3.57
    Mediterranean 2.48
    Beringian 1.13
    Siberian 1.08
    American 0.73
    SW-Asian 0.64
    Papuan 0.26
    Pygmy 0.06
    SE-Asian 0.01
    San 0.01
    E-African 0.01
    W-African 0.01


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    This looks like Dumbo's results too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirtan24 View Post
    This one could also be a Gujarati Brahmin.
    tyagis/tiagis are all up brahmins though i think. Plus both of them showed up as matches on gedmatch so its very likely this one is a UP brahmin as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naruto View Post
    tyagis/tiagis are all up brahmins though i think. Plus both of them showed up as matches on gedmatch so its very likely this one is a UP brahmin as well.
    Yes, my remark was particularly for the second one. His Baloch and Caucasian looked slightly higher for a Gangetic population. But maybe it is not that rare in Western UP. Tyagis are found among Gujarati Brahmins too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirtan24 View Post
    This one could also be a Gujarati Brahmin.
    Easily, this one is a near copy of GBR-6

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    Punjabi Ramgarhia (Kalyan), same surname as me:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 38.53
    2 S-Indian 33.74
    3 Caucasian 11.92
    4 NE-Euro 8.64
    5 Mediterranean 3.23
    6 Beringian 1.22
    7 NE-Asian 0.97
    8 SE-Asian 0.88
    9 San 0.83
    10 American 0.04

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 3.78
    2 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 3.79
    3 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 3.9
    4 punjabi (harappa) 4.07
    5 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 4.2
    6 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 4.24
    7 up-muslim (harappa) 5.35
    8 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 5.72
    9 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 6.66
    10 kashmiri (harappa) 6.72
    11 punjabi-arain (xing) 7.09
    12 up-brahmin (harappa) 7.32
    13 nepalese-a (xing) 7.68
    14 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 7.68
    15 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 7.84
    16 sindhi (harappa) 9.48
    17 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 9.68
    18 sindhi (hgdp) 9.81
    19 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 10.27
    20 gujarati-b (hapmap) 10.54

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87.5% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 12.5% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 2.83
    2 84.4% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 15.6% cochin-jew (behar) @ 2.88
    3 63.1% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) + 36.9% up-muslim (harappa) @ 2.88
    4 92.4% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) + 7.6% romanian-b (behar) @ 2.88
    5 91.1% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) + 8.9% romanian-b (behar) @ 2.88
    6 85.2% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) + 14.8% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 2.94
    7 65.6% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 34.4% up-muslim (harappa) @ 2.98
    8 86.7% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 13.3% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 2.99
    9 65.8% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 34.2% up-muslim (harappa) @ 3
    10 56.7% kalash (hgdp) + 43.3% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 3
    11 59.7% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) + 40.3% up-muslim (harappa) @ 3.01
    12 85.5% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 14.5% cochin-jew (behar) @ 3.05
    13 61.5% pathan (hgdp) + 38.5% up-muslim (metspalu) @ 3.05
    14 88.8% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 11.2% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 3.06
    15 61.4% pathan (hgdp) + 38.6% dharkar (metspalu) @ 3.09
    16 79.5% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 20.5% vaish (reich) @ 3.09
    17 79.7% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 20.3% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 3.09
    18 96.3% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 3.7% irula (xing) @ 3.1
    19 67.4% pathan (hgdp) + 32.6% lodi (reich) @ 3.1
    20 56.6% kalash (hgdp) + 43.4% dharkar (metspalu) @ 3.1



    Punjabi Ramgarhia (Kalyan):


    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 39.18
    2 S-Indian 32.38
    3 Caucasian 12.4
    4 NE-Euro 7.96
    5 SW-Asian 1.98
    6 Beringian 1.79
    7 Siberian 1.21
    8 American 1.21
    9 Mediterranean 0.96
    10 Papuan 0.93
    11 San 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi (harappa) 2.1
    2 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 2.26
    3 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 2.5
    4 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 3.78
    5 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 4.32
    6 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 4.35
    7 kashmiri (harappa) 4.58
    8 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 4.78
    9 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 4.86
    10 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 5.15
    11 punjabi-arain (xing) 5.67
    12 up-muslim (harappa) 5.88
    13 sindhi (harappa) 6.17
    14 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 6.23
    15 sindhi (hgdp) 8.01
    16 nepalese-a (xing) 9.09
    17 up-brahmin (harappa) 9.67
    18 pathan (hgdp) 9.73
    19 bhatia (harappa) 9.9
    20 haryana-jatt (harappa) 11.12

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 54.6% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 45.4% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 1.58
    2 97.9% punjabi (harappa) + 2.1% georgian (behar) @ 1.58
    3 97.8% punjabi (harappa) + 2.2% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 1.59
    4 74.5% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 25.5% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 1.63
    5 97.7% punjabi (harappa) + 2.3% armenian (behar) @ 1.65
    6 64% pathan (hgdp) + 36% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 1.68
    7 97.7% punjabi (harappa) + 2.3% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 1.69
    8 97.2% punjabi (harappa) + 2.8% kurd (xing) @ 1.69
    9 97.7% punjabi (harappa) + 2.3% assyrian (harappa) @ 1.7
    10 97.8% punjabi (harappa) + 2.2% adygei (hgdp) @ 1.71
    11 78.6% punjabi (harappa) + 21.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 1.71
    12 97% punjabi (harappa) + 3% iranian (harappa) @ 1.72
    13 65% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) + 35% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.72
    14 97.1% punjabi (harappa) + 2.9% kurd (harappa) @ 1.72
    15 60.3% punjabi (harappa) + 39.7% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 1.73
    16 97.8% punjabi (harappa) + 2.2% georgia-jew (behar) @ 1.73
    17 97.8% punjabi (harappa) + 2.2% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 1.73
    18 97.4% punjabi (harappa) + 2.6% azeri (harappa) @ 1.73
    19 97.7% punjabi (harappa) + 2.3% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 1.74
    20 97.6% punjabi (harappa) + 2.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 1.74
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    Punjabi Baniya? (Jindal)


    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 52.19
    2 Baloch 36.22
    3 Caucasian 3.67
    4 NE-Euro 3.15
    5 NE-Asian 1.66
    6 SE-Asian 0.97
    7 Mediterranean 0.94
    8 Siberian 0.64
    9 Pygmy 0.54
    10 W-African 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 singapore-indian-b (sgvp) 2.46
    2 tharu (metspalu) 3.42
    3 ap-reddy (harappa) 3.85
    4 dharkar (metspalu) 3.96
    5 up-muslim (metspalu) 4.24
    6 karnataka (harappa) 4.24
    7 ap-brahmin (xing) 4.55
    8 rajasthani (harappa) 4.63
    9 andhra-pradesh (harappa) 4.81
    10 kanjar (metspalu) 4.97
    11 up (harappa) 5.08
    12 ap-hyderabad (harappa) 5.14
    13 kerala-nair (harappa) 5.15
    14 velama (metspalu) 5.16
    15 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 5.21
    16 bihari (harappa) 5.28
    17 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 5.28
    18 tamil (harappa) 5.35
    19 velama (reich) 5.48
    20 kerala-christian (harappa) 5.69

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 32% vysya (reich) @ 1.6
    2 79.4% velama (metspalu) + 20.6% nepalese-a (xing) @ 1.65
    3 60.5% vysya (reich) + 39.5% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 1.65
    4 60% vysya (reich) + 40% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 1.66
    5 56.2% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 43.8% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 1.67
    6 54.4% tamil-vellalar (harappa) + 45.6% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 1.67
    7 62% velama (metspalu) + 38% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 1.72
    8 73.7% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 26.3% velama (metspalu) @ 1.75
    9 81% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 19% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 1.77
    10 60.3% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 39.7% dusadh (metspalu) @ 1.77
    11 87.7% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) + 12.3% vysya (reich) @ 1.78
    12 52.6% gujarati (harappa) + 47.4% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 1.81
    13 70.5% velama (metspalu) + 29.5% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.81
    14 71.4% velama (metspalu) + 28.6% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 1.82
    15 57.6% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) + 42.4% lodi (reich) @ 1.82
    16 64.8% gujarati (harappa) + 35.2% vysya (reich) @ 1.82
    17 64.4% vysya (reich) + 35.6% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 1.84
    18 57.5% velama (metspalu) + 42.5% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.87
    19 70.2% vysya (reich) + 29.8% bhatia (harappa) @ 1.87
    20 71.4% tamil-vellalar (harappa) + 28.6% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 1.91

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    Hello Guys, I am new to this thread, I have one doubt regarding nmonte runner,
    Why NMonte runner is showing less distance for south asians aganist onge but significantly higher distance for East asian populations?
    For Eg:
    Fit for Gujarati:
    Onge:24
    Japanese:47
    Onge/East Asians/AASI diverged from each other at the same time about 40000 years ago, so South Asians should be at the similar distance with both Onge and East Asian populations, but NMonte runner puts Onge to be too much closer to South Asians. What's happening guys here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ammi View Post
    Hello Guys, I am new to this thread, I have one doubt regarding nmonte runner,
    Why NMonte runner is showing less distance for south asians aganist onge but significantly higher distance for East asian populations?
    For Eg:
    Fit for Gujarati:
    Onge:24
    Japanese:47
    Onge/East Asians/AASI diverged from each other at the same time about 40000 years ago, so South Asians should be at the similar distance with both Onge and East Asian populations, but NMonte runner puts Onge to be too much closer to South Asians. What's happening guys here?
    Overall Onge/Andnamese are much closer to South Asians

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    Quote Originally Posted by naruto View Post
    tyagis/tiagis are all up brahmins though i think. Plus both of them showed up as matches on gedmatch so its very likely this one is a UP brahmin as well.
    UP brahmin NE Euro is higher then even Kashmiri pandits

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