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  1. #11521
    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    Gujarati Mochi (Chauhan)

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 42.29
    2 Baloch 34.86
    3 NE-Euro 9.62
    4 Caucasian 5.55
    5 Mediterranean 3.35
    6 Beringian 1.6
    7 SW-Asian 1.22
    8 Papuan 0.56
    9 American 0.55
    10 Siberian 0.39

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 vaish (reich) 3.12
    2 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 3.22
    3 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 3.72
    4 up-brahmin (harappa) 4.27
    5 bihari-muslim (harappa) 4.37
    6 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 4.4
    7 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 5.24
    8 gujarati-b (hapmap) 5.5
    9 meghawal (reich) 5.66
    10 maharashtrian (harappa) 5.75
    11 gujarati (harappa) 6.27
    12 iyengar-brahmin (harappa) 6.97
    13 iyer-brahmin (harappa) 7.02
    14 tn-brahmin (xing) 7.08
    15 brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) 7.16
    16 ap-brahmin (xing) 7.52
    17 rajasthani (harappa) 8
    18 up (harappa) 8.42
    19 up-muslim (harappa) 8.84
    20 kerala-nair (harappa) 9

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 90% iyer-brahmin (harappa) + 10% hungarian (behar) @ 1.36
    2 90% iyer-brahmin (harappa) + 10% slovenian (xing) @ 1.39
    3 90.2% tn-brahmin (xing) + 9.8% n-european (xing) @ 1.39
    4 90.4% tn-brahmin (xing) + 9.6% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 1.45
    5 90.3% tn-brahmin (xing) + 9.7% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 1.45
    6 90% tn-brahmin (xing) + 10% slovenian (xing) @ 1.52
    7 90.9% tn-brahmin (xing) + 9.1% belorussian (behar) @ 1.54
    8 89.9% tn-brahmin (xing) + 10.1% hungarian (behar) @ 1.59
    9 90.3% tn-brahmin (xing) + 9.7% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 1.59
    10 90.5% iyer-brahmin (harappa) + 9.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 1.6
    11 92.2% meghawal (reich) + 7.8% n-european (xing) @ 1.61
    12 90.4% tn-brahmin (xing) + 9.6% orcadian (hgdp) @ 1.61
    13 74.5% up-brahmin (harappa) + 25.5% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 1.61
    14 91.9% meghawal (reich) + 8.1% hungarian (behar) @ 1.63
    15 92% meghawal (reich) + 8% slovenian (xing) @ 1.65
    16 90.3% tn-brahmin (xing) + 9.7% british (1000genomes) @ 1.65
    17 91.4% tn-brahmin (xing) + 8.6% lithuanian (behar) @ 1.66
    18 92.2% meghawal (reich) + 7.8% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 1.66
    19 90.4% iyer-brahmin (harappa) + 9.6% n-european (xing) @ 1.66
    20 92% meghawal (reich) + 8% french (hgdp) @ 1.69
    thanks for editing else i thought this sample to be a west up chauhan rajput , kinda similar result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirtan24 View Post
    Bro Mochi are not "Chamar" per se in Gujarat. They have slightly different functions than conventional Chamars as the former are artisans and latter leather tanners and hence work with "raw" animal skin. Mochi come under SEBC and not SC.

    https://sje.gujarat.gov.in/ddcw/List...e?lang=English
    That's interesting, in Punjab Chamars ( the one that work with Chamra) do the leather work, including making shoes and repairing. In villages they also work as farm labour. I could be wrong, and there might be Mochis who keep a seperate identity. They do fall under SC in Punjab.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochi_(Sikh)

    Seems like they're counted as sub-caste of Chamars. And fall under Ravidassi umbrella.
    Last edited by MonkeyDLuffy; 02-06-2023 at 02:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    I checked back and forgot to mention that he says he's a 2nd generation Indian British and he only knows that his father's of the Mochi community from Surat, Gujarat. He could have other maternal mixes which could explain his high Steppe?
    The high steppe/Med could point towards anglo heritage in maternal side. Very interesting sample.

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  6. #11524
    Chauhan surname does not tell any caste. He may be anyone unless he does describe his caste but it seems med is too high for a Gujarati Dalit subcaste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamdut View Post
    2 population approximation is interesting, 50 percent Sindhi plus 50 percent Tajik. What are variation among different subtype of Pakhtuns ??
    Ludin/Shinwari from Jalalabad: 50% pashtun_harappa +50% sindhi_harappa @ 3.031245
    Khattak from Karak 50% pashtun_harappa +50% punjabi-khatri_harappa @ 2.802226
    Kakazai from Attock 50% gujarati-a_1000genomes +50% urkarah_xing @ 3.646904
    Bettani from Tank 50% sindhi_hgdp +50% stalskoe_xing @ 5.609103
    Safi/Zazai from Kunar 50% kerala-brahmin_harappa +50% lezgin_behar @ 4.850401

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamdut View Post
    Chauhan surname does not tell any caste. He may be anyone unless he does describe his caste but it seems med is too high for a Gujarati Dalit subcaste.
    Lol as I said Mochi are not Dalits. He may have some higher-Steppe maternal mix as Kaazi pointed out but his paternal caste is an artisanal one (see my previous post).
    Into my heart an air that kills,
    From yon far country blows:
    What are those blue remembered hills,
    What spires, what farms are those?

    That is the land of lost content,
    I see it shining plain,
    The happy highways where I went
    And cannot come again...

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    Punjabi Ramgarhia (Kalsi):

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 36.87
    2 S-Indian 35.57
    3 NE-Euro 11.15
    4 Caucasian 10.22
    5 Siberian 2.42
    6 Mediterranean 2.01
    7 American 1.33
    8 SE-Asian 0.43

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 4.34
    2 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 4.98
    3 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 5.03
    4 up-muslim (harappa) 5.18
    5 punjabi (harappa) 5.26
    6 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 5.38
    7 up-brahmin (harappa) 5.87
    8 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 6.11
    9 nepalese-a (xing) 6.14
    10 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 7.11
    11 kashmiri (harappa) 7.5
    12 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 7.95
    13 brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) 7.98
    14 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 8.17
    15 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 8.42
    16 bengali-brahmin (harappa) 8.91
    17 punjabi-arain (xing) 9.07
    18 bihari-muslim (harappa) 9.67
    19 vaish (reich) 10.21
    20 gujarati-b (hapmap) 10.35

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 55.4% pathan (hgdp) + 44.6% srivastava (reich) @ 2.44
    2 67.6% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 32.4% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.56
    3 81.5% up-kshatriya (metspalu) + 18.5% urkarah (xing) @ 2.58
    4 63.6% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 36.4% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.58
    5 63.1% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 36.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.58
    6 50.6% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 49.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.6
    7 51.8% kashmiri (harappa) + 48.2% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.6
    8 81.7% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 18.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.62
    9 57.3% up-brahmin (harappa) + 42.7% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.71
    10 61.5% vaish (reich) + 38.5% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.75
    11 82.1% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 17.9% urkarah (xing) @ 2.79
    12 70.5% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) + 29.5% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.79
    13 90.4% up-brahmin (harappa) + 9.6% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 2.81
    14 56.7% vaish (reich) + 43.3% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.81
    15 68.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 31.6% srivastava (reich) @ 2.85
    16 90.2% up-brahmin (harappa) + 9.8% lezgin (behar) @ 2.85
    17 65.1% bengali-brahmin (harappa) + 34.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.85
    18 55.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 44.7% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.86
    19 91.5% up-brahmin (harappa) + 8.5% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 2.86
    20 83.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 16.7% chenchu (reich) @ 2.87

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    Deol Jatt.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 36.63
    2 S-Indian 31.56
    3 Caucasian 13.65
    4 NE-Euro 12.39
    5 SW-Asian 2.27
    6 American 1.22
    7 Siberian 1.15
    8 Papuan 0.95
    9 San 0.1
    10 SE-Asian 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 4
    2 kashmiri (harappa) 4.84
    3 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 4.87
    4 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 5.33
    5 punjabi (harappa) 5.47
    6 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 5.74
    7 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 6
    8 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 6.63
    9 up-muslim (harappa) 6.84
    10 sindhi (harappa) 6.87
    11 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 7.66
    12 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 7.81
    13 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 8.17
    14 haryana-jatt (harappa) 8.54
    15 nepalese-a (xing) 8.93
    16 pathan (hgdp) 9.2
    17 punjabi-arain (xing) 9.29
    18 up-brahmin (harappa) 10.43
    19 bhatia (harappa) 10.61
    20 sindhi (hgdp) 11.5

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 95.2% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 4.8% paniya (chaubey) @ 2.65
    2 93.2% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.8% chenchu (reich) @ 2.69
    3 95.2% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 4.8% pulliyar (metspalu) @ 2.72
    4 95.3% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 4.7% irula (xing) @ 2.77
    5 94.2% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 5.8% nihali (metspalu) @ 2.77
    6 73.4% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 26.6% urkarah (xing) @ 2.8
    7 93.3% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.7% gond (metspalu) @ 2.82
    8 88% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 12% srivastava (reich) @ 2.83
    9 81.5% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 18.5% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.84
    10 91.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 8.6% tharu (reich) @ 2.85
    11 82.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 17.6% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.85
    12 93.9% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.1% sahariya (reich) @ 2.86
    13 93.9% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.1% mala (reich) @ 2.86
    14 84% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 16% vaish (reich) @ 2.87
    15 94.9% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 5.1% santhal (reich) @ 2.87
    16 93.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.9% bhil (reich) @ 2.87
    17 93.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.3% kurumba (reich) @ 2.87
    18 93.9% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.1% ap-mala (xing) @ 2.88
    19 94.9% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 5.1% asur (chaubey) @ 2.88
    20 93.6% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.4% north-kannadi (chaubey) @ 2.89

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    Njab Jatt, ever heard of this surname?

    M3a1 R2

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 40.21
    2 S-Indian 29.35
    3 NE-Euro 13.35
    4 Caucasian 11.78
    5 Mediterranean 1.96
    6 Siberian 1.38
    7 SW-Asian 0.69
    8 San 0.45
    9 Beringian 0.37
    10 Papuan 0.33
    11 American 0.14

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 2.89
    2 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 4.67
    3 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 5.35
    4 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 5.36
    5 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 5.85
    6 sindhi (harappa) 6.01
    7 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 6.2
    8 punjabi (harappa) 6.23
    9 haryana-jatt (harappa) 6.34
    10 kashmiri (harappa) 6.53
    11 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 7.02
    12 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 7.13
    13 punjabi-arain (xing) 7.24
    14 pathan (hgdp) 7.24
    15 bhatia (harappa) 7.45
    16 nepalese-a (xing) 8.48
    17 sindhi (hgdp) 9.17
    18 up-muslim (harappa) 9.36
    19 burusho (hgdp) 9.86
    20 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 9.96

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.5% pathan (hgdp) + 38.5% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.41
    2 66.7% pathan (hgdp) + 33.3% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.42
    3 78.8% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 21.2% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.6
    4 79.8% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 20.2% kashmiri-pandit (reich) @ 2.64
    5 55.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 44.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.69
    6 78.8% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 21.2% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.7
    7 85% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 15% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 2.74
    8 98.6% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 1.4% irula (xing) @ 2.76
    9 93.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 6.7% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.79
    10 98.8% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 1.2% pulliyar (metspalu) @ 2.79
    11 94.7% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 5.3% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.79
    12 89.6% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 10.4% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 2.79
    13 88.8% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 11.2% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.79
    14 89.8% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 10.2% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 2.8
    15 98.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 1.1% georgian (behar) @ 2.8
    16 98.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 1.1% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 2.8
    17 97.1% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 2.9% srivastava (reich) @ 2.81
    18 96.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 3.6% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 2.81
    19 98.5% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 1.5% north-kannadi (chaubey) @ 2.82
    20 98.8% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) + 1.2% adygei (hgdp) @ 2.82

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    Deol Jatt.

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    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 36.3
    2 S-Indian 30.65
    3 Caucasian 13.72
    4 NE-Euro 13.41
    5 Siberian 1.98
    6 SW-Asian 1.6
    7 Beringian 1.1
    8 SE-Asian 0.57
    9 American 0.31
    10 Mediterranean 0.3
    11 Pygmy 0.05

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 4.24
    2 kashmiri (harappa) 5.5
    3 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 5.57
    4 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 5.8
    5 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 6
    6 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 6.4
    7 punjabi (harappa) 6.43
    8 sindhi (harappa) 7.11
    9 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 7.39
    10 haryana-jatt (harappa) 7.65
    11 up-muslim (harappa) 7.7
    12 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 8.7
    13 pathan (hgdp) 8.77
    14 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 8.85
    15 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 8.89
    16 nepalese-a (xing) 9.05
    17 punjabi-arain (xing) 10.06
    18 bhatia (harappa) 10.72
    19 up-brahmin (harappa) 11
    20 burusho (hgdp) 11.35

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 79.4% up-brahmin (harappa) + 20.6% lezgin (behar) @ 2.4
    2 78.8% up-brahmin (harappa) + 21.2% urkarah (xing) @ 2.48
    3 92.6% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 7.4% russian (behar) @ 2.6
    4 93.8% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 6.2% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.61
    5 92.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 7.7% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.74
    6 92.8% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 7.2% belorussian (behar) @ 2.79
    7 92.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 7.6% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.8
    8 93.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 6.6% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.94
    9 78.7% up-brahmin (harappa) + 21.3% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.98
    10 91.8% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 8.2% chuvash (behar) @ 3.01
    11 81.1% up-brahmin (harappa) + 18.9% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 3.06
    12 71.7% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 28.3% urkarah (xing) @ 3.07
    13 92.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 7.7% slovenian (xing) @ 3.11
    14 88.2% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 11.8% nogai (yunusbayev) @ 3.13
    15 53.9% up-brahmin (harappa) + 46.1% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.13
    16 80.4% up-brahmin (harappa) + 19.6% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 3.18
    17 92.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 7.7% hungarian (behar) @ 3.23
    18 51.5% pashtun (harappa) + 48.5% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 3.24
    19 87.6% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 12.4% stalskoe (xing) @ 3.27
    20 91.9% punjabi (harappa) + 8.1% russian (behar) @ 3.38

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