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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    Do you know of any Jatt clans that are J2a?
    Dhillon Afaik

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    Punjabi Arain

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 41.27
    2 S-Indian 26.09
    3 Caucasian 14.68
    4 NE-Euro 8.47
    5 SW-Asian 4.99
    6 Mediterranean 1.24
    7 Siberian 0.84
    8 Beringian 0.83
    9 American 0.71
    10 NE-Asian 0.44
    11 Papuan 0.35
    12 W-African 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 sindhi (harappa) 2.49
    2 pathan (hgdp) 4.79
    3 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 5.22
    4 bhatia (harappa) 6.4
    5 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 6.56
    6 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 6.66
    7 kashmiri (harappa) 6.75
    8 punjabi-arain (xing) 7.43
    9 sindhi (hgdp) 7.54
    10 kalash (hgdp) 7.76
    11 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 7.77
    12 punjabi (harappa) 7.91
    13 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 8.54
    14 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 9.2
    15 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 9.25
    16 burusho (hgdp) 9.25
    17 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 9.28
    18 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 10.22
    19 pashtun (harappa) 10.69
    20 up-muslim (harappa) 11.31

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHawk View Post
    4.99 SW Asian?? That is massive big.

    Someone should try to get his G25 coordinates
    Arains have slight Hotu Cave type ancestry, as suggested by map of Araingang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHawk View Post
    4.99 SW Asian?? That is massive big.

    Someone should try to get his G25 coordinates
    would this high SW asian be due to their claim of arab ancestry...i guess it would be difficult to prove or disprove that given the present resources at our disposal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishankar View Post
    would this high SW asian be due to their claim of arab ancestry...i guess it would be difficult to prove or disprove that given the present resources at our disposal!
    No, it is more likely to suggest iranian type ancestry as modern day baloch and other iranians have high sw asians. Do not forget that baloch is a west iranic language like kurdish and proto-baloch were soldiers of Qasim Army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamdut View Post
    No, it is more likely to suggest iranian type ancestry as modern day baloch and other iranians have high sw asians. Do not forget that baloch is a west iranic language like kurdish and proto-baloch were soldiers of Qasim Army.
    No, there is the possibility of that SW Asian being of Arab ancestry, at least partially. The entire region they inhabit was after all ruled by the Umayyad Caliphate and its successor states for a certain period of time.

    On a somewhat related note, there is also the possibility that not all BMAC in the subcontinent was IVC mediated, as certain groups in Central Asia also score heavy BMAC ancestry.
    Last edited by Mahalat; 01-28-2023 at 03:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahalat View Post
    No, there is the possibility of that SW Asian being of Arab ancestry, at least partially. The entire region they inhabit was after all ruled by the Umayyad Caliphate and its successor states for a certain period of time.

    On a somewhat related note, there is also the possibility that not all BMAC in the subcontinent was IVC mediated, as certain groups in Central Asia also score heavy BMAC ancestry.
    BMAC is related to IVC but both were not exactly same. BMAC is base for central Asians just like IVC is for many South Asians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackHawk View Post
    which map? Those depends on fits. Very poor fits might not suggest anything.

    I think the sample Caucasian is bit low, some North region Aroras, Kamboj and Khatris etc score comparatively 17-18+ Caucasian. In his case it could be Caucasian moving to SW Asian. G25 etc can explain a bit more.
    There's one Telugu Kamma kit getting high SW asian as well. It could be caucasian moving to SW asian though as you suggested since this person pretty much has no Caucasian.

    # Population Percent
    1 S-Indian 53.57
    2 Baloch 38.28
    3 SW-Asian 4.45
    4 Papuan 1.73
    5 NE-Asian 0.98
    6 Siberian 0.34
    7 San 0.33
    8 Caucasian 0.19
    9 SE-Asian 0.12

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 ap-reddy (harappa) 4.13
    2 gujarati-a (1000genomes) 4.86
    3 velama (metspalu) 5.41
    4 gujarati-patel (harappa) 5.59
    5 gujarati-a (hapmap) 5.63
    6 karnataka (harappa) 6.12
    7 velama (reich) 6.33
    8 andhra-pradesh (harappa) 7.21
    9 singapore-indian-b (sgvp) 7.23
    10 kerala-nair (harappa) 7.53

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    Quote Originally Posted by David067 View Post
    Punjabi Arain

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 41.27
    2 S-Indian 26.09
    3 Caucasian 14.68
    4 NE-Euro 8.47
    5 SW-Asian 4.99
    6 Mediterranean 1.24
    7 Siberian 0.84
    8 Beringian 0.83
    9 American 0.71
    10 NE-Asian 0.44
    11 Papuan 0.35
    12 W-African 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 sindhi (harappa) 2.49
    2 pathan (hgdp) 4.79
    3 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 5.22
    4 bhatia (harappa) 6.4
    5 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 6.56
    6 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 6.66
    7 kashmiri (harappa) 6.75
    8 punjabi-arain (xing) 7.43
    9 sindhi (hgdp) 7.54
    10 kalash (hgdp) 7.76
    11 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 7.77
    12 punjabi (harappa) 7.91
    13 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 8.54
    14 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 9.2
    15 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 9.25
    16 burusho (hgdp) 9.25
    17 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 9.28
    18 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 10.22
    19 pashtun (harappa) 10.69
    20 up-muslim (harappa) 11.31
    How much snps does this kit have ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    Punjabi Labana fully

    Scores like UP Brahmins.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/SouthAsianA...t=share_button

    I asked him to have a G25 coordinates for free of cost to be published under David's public spreadsheet. But he doesn't seem interested as he thinks he will look like the other Bhumihar Bihar (Thakur) G25 guy.


    In David's spreadsheet will update later (https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/...25_12.html?m=0)
    Bhumihar Bihar (Thakur) guy from Saran is now BB002 (Vats gotra)
    AG User Parasar is now BB001
    Andhra Pradesh Vaidiki sample BAPV001 is the Jesus looking guy. He is fully Velanadu sect from coastal Andhra.

    David may change it to Jatt_Punjab_Sikh (JPS005 numbering)
    Kahlon Sikh Jatt is PJ005
    Puadh Khaira dad Virk mom is PJ006
    Majha Khaira dad Randhawa mom is PJ007
    Malwa Sidhu dad Dhillon mom is PJ008

    Rohingya; dad from Norala village, Maungdaw, Myanmar and mom from Minbya, Myanmar is RHG001 sample. She's M7b mt-haplo and scores like Bengali Bangladeshi (BEB ) dataset.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativ...t=share_button

    Brahmin_Iyengar (IYN001) is this guy; his dad is mainstream Tamil Nadu Tamil and mom is Hebbar Tamil speaking from Karnataka but both are of same Vadagalai sect Iyengar.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/SouthAsianA...t=share_button

    Brahmin_Karnataka_Tulu (BKT001) is the full Tulu Shivalli Madhwa Brahmin (surname Bhat; Angirasa gotra) from Mangalore Poyadhakudde, mom from Padubidri Mangalore.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativ...t=share_button

    Relabeled "Gujar_India" as "Gujar_Rajasthan" and "Gujar_Pakistan" as "Gujar_Swat" since there are Gujjars in other regions of these countries as well.


    Anyone interested (who is fully representative of any group) can add their coordinates or can generate their G25 coordinates (free of cost) since David is interested in adding more and more South Asian samples in his spreadsheet; unscaled required.
    Off topic but do you know any calculators in Genoplot that have a separate AASI element; that can separate West Eurasian from the South Asian component, and have good East Asian references? I want to try and run some of G25 simulated SE Asian gedmatch samples that I have to see how much AASI and Western Eurasian they have in total.

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