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    Quote Originally Posted by tipirneni View Post
    What are your related groups in Ancestry and MyHeritage ?
    Punjab and Western India on Ancestry

    and the following on MyHeritage:

    South Asian 65.3%
    Eastern Africa (Kenya, Tanzania, Malawi and Uganda)
    Indians in Madagascar and in East Africa (Kenya, Tanzania, Uganda, Comoros and Mozambique)
    India, Pakistan, Kenya, Tanzania, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajiksindhigujarati View Post
    From Ancestry:
    Central Asia South 80%
    Northern India 12%
    Northern Italy 8%

    From MyHeritage:
    ASIA
    South Asian: 65.3%
    West Asian: 19.6%
    Central Asian: 3.8%
    EUROPE
    Finnish 8.1%
    Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 3.2%

    Edit: Forgot to say, no G25
    Iím assuming itís northern Italy because they are more steppe related

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica277282 View Post
    Iím assuming itís northern Italy because they are more steppe related
    No most likely due to ANF that SPGT groups (e.g. Lohanas) are enriched for compared to other South Asian pops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tajiksindhigujarati View Post
    Hey guys! I posted here a while ago with my harappa world results sourced through autosomal DNA from Ancestry.com, I recently also got a test done from MyHeritage which gave me different results and plugged those in to Gedmatch. Here are my HW results for both, which one would you say is more reliable and why?

    Ancestry Results:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 35.86
    2 S-Indian 29.05
    3 Caucasian 18.43
    4 NE-Euro 11.09
    5 American 1.81
    6 SW-Asian 1.26
    7 Beringian 0.88
    8 Siberian 0.77
    9 Papuan 0.47
    10 E-African 0.24
    11 Mediterranean 0.09
    12 San 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 3.53
    2 kashmiri (harappa) 5.23
    3 sindhi (harappa) 7.22
    4 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 7.38
    5 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 7.45
    6 pathan (hgdp) 8.12
    7 punjabi (harappa) 8.75
    8 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 8.77
    9 punjabi-arain (xing) 8.81
    10 kalash (hgdp) 9.34
    11 pashtun (harappa) 9.82
    12 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 9.85
    13 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 10.22
    14 gujarati-b (hapmap) 10.42
    15 bhatia (harappa) 10.86
    16 sindhi (hgdp) 10.99
    17 gujarati (harappa) 11.31
    18 nepalese-a (xing) 11.61
    19 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 11.84
    20 burusho (hgdp) 11.9

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 61.9% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 38.1% lezgin (behar) @ 1.91
    2 66.7% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 33.3% chechen (behar) @ 1.95
    3 83.4% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 16.6% georgian (behar) @ 2.01
    4 55.4% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 44.6% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 2.1
    5 83.4% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 16.6% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 2.12
    6 83.3% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 16.7% lezgin (behar) @ 2.14
    7 56% gujarati-a (1000genomes) + 44% urkarah (xing) @ 2.16
    8 85.7% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 14.3% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.18
    9 64.9% gujarati (harappa) + 35.1% lezgin (behar) @ 2.23
    10 86.3% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 13.7% georgian (behar) @ 2.24
    11 64.1% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 35.9% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 2.39
    12 85.5% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 14.5% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.4
    13 86.7% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 13.3% adygei (hgdp) @ 2.41
    14 65.9% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 34.1% lezgin (behar) @ 2.44
    15 54.6% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 45.4% lezgin (behar) @ 2.48
    16 82.2% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 17.8% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.49
    17 66.1% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 33.9% lezgin (behar) @ 2.51
    18 64.2% gujarati (harappa) + 35.8% urkarah (xing) @ 2.51
    19 86.6% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 13.4% adygei (hgdp) @ 2.55
    20 93.9% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.1% georgian (behar) @ 2.59

    MyHeritage Results:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 36.5
    2 S-Indian 28.1
    3 Caucasian 17.61
    4 NE-Euro 11.93
    5 American 1.52
    6 Siberian 1.18
    7 Beringian 0.85
    8 SW-Asian 0.77
    9 W-African 0.57
    10 Papuan 0.37
    11 San 0.32
    12 Pygmy 0.28

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 3.27
    2 kashmiri (harappa) 5.29
    3 sindhi (harappa) 6.58
    4 pathan (hgdp) 7.02
    5 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 7.3
    6 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 7.31
    7 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 7.8
    8 punjabi (harappa) 8.71
    9 kalash (hgdp) 8.84
    10 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 9.1
    11 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 9.51
    12 haryana-jatt (harappa) 9.72
    13 pashtun (harappa) 9.78
    14 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 10.17
    15 up-muslim (harappa) 10.24
    16 bhatia (harappa) 10.3
    17 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 10.88
    18 burusho (hgdp) 10.96
    19 punjabi-arain (xing) 11.24
    20 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 11.6

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 82.3% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 17.7% georgian (behar) @ 1.61
    2 83.7% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 16.3% lezgin (hgdp) @ 1.72
    3 83.6% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 16.4% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 1.84
    4 83.8% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 16.2% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 1.87
    5 83.8% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 16.2% urkarah (xing) @ 1.9
    6 81.7% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 18.3% kumyk (yunusbayev) @ 1.98
    7 85.6% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 14.4% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2
    8 93.2% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.8% adygei (hgdp) @ 2.09
    9 93.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.9% balkar (yunusbayev) @ 2.11
    10 81% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 19% adygei (behar) @ 2.13
    11 93.2% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 6.8% north-ossetian (yunusbayev) @ 2.14
    12 84.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 15.6% lezgin (behar) @ 2.15
    13 92.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 7.3% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.23
    14 94.4% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 5.6% abhkasian (yunusbayev) @ 2.28
    15 94.7% punjabi-khatri (harappa) + 5.3% georgian (behar) @ 2.3
    16 80.8% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 19.2% chechen (yunusbayev) @ 2.31
    17 83.8% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 16.2% stalskoe (xing) @ 2.33
    18 65.6% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 34.4% urkarah (xing) @ 2.33
    19 82.3% gujarati-b (hapmap) + 17.7% adygei (hgdp) @ 2.37
    20 80.6% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 19.4% urkarah (xing) @ 2.37
    If you tested on MyHeritage's newer chip, then Ancestry DNA is going be much better as it will have much higher SNP coverage overlap with GEDMatch. So, your Ancestry DNA raw data will also be more accurate for G25 due to the higher overlap.
    pegasus modeling:
    sample": "Punjabi_Jat:Sapporo_AGUser",
    "fit": 1.1506,
    "IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3": 43.33,
    "TKM_Gonur1_BA": 31.67,
    "RUS_Sintashta_MLBA": 25,
    "closestDistances": [

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    Punjabi Muslim Jatt (Warraich) from Gujrat, Pakistan

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 42.9
    2 S-Indian 29.08
    3 NE-Euro 12.99
    4 Caucasian 9.56
    5 SW-Asian 1.73
    6 Beringian 1.51
    7 American 1.03
    8 Siberian 0.65
    9 Mediterranean 0.55

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 3.5
    2 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 5.62
    3 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 5.73
    4 bhatia (harappa) 5.98
    5 punjabi-arain (xing) 6
    6 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 6.2
    7 sindhi (harappa) 6.45
    8 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 6.5
    9 punjabi (harappa) 6.75
    10 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 6.79
    11 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 6.94
    12 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 7.1
    13 sindhi (hgdp) 7.31
    14 haryana-jatt (harappa) 7.72
    15 pathan (hgdp) 7.98
    16 kashmiri (harappa) 8.47
    17 nepalese-a (xing) 8.8
    18 burusho (hgdp) 9.93
    19 kalash (hgdp) 10.79
    20 up-muslim (harappa) 10.9


    His father is Warraich from Gujrat and mother is Cheema from Wazirabad
    Last edited by David067; 04-03-2022 at 11:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sapporo View Post
    If you tested on MyHeritage's newer chip, then Ancestry DNA is going be much better as it will have much higher SNP coverage overlap with GEDMatch. So, your Ancestry DNA raw data will also be more accurate for G25 due to the higher overlap.
    I tested in December of last year, idk when the new chip was released but it probably is the new one.
    I don't have G25, what do you mean by that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by desi View Post
    No most likely due to ANF that SPGT groups (e.g. Lohanas) are enriched for compared to other South Asian pops.
    Probably an answered question but what are the SPGT groups please?

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    KNT005 - Otyrar
    aDNA Match (2nd)
    I4097 - Hasanlu
    aDNA Match (3rd)
    I4157 - Bustan
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    Quote Originally Posted by tajiksindhigujarati View Post
    Probably an answered question but what are the SPGT groups please?

    SPGT : Swat Protohistoric Grave Type









    AlMirani_scaled
    Distance: 2.8981% / 0.02898110
    43.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    18.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    16.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    15.2 Levant_PPNB
    4.0 TJK_Sarazm_En
    1.4 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    0.6 Yoruba
    0.2 Dinka


    AlMirani-Jr_scaled
    Distance: 2.0949% / 0.02094947
    49.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    16.8 Levant_PPNB
    14.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    14.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    3.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    1.8 WHG
    0.2 Yoruba

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    I4097 - Hasanlu
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    I4157 - Bustan
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    G-Y218555

    Oman
    This kit came recently at the top of my GEDmatch ďOne-to-ManyĒ list :




    AlMirani_scaled
    Distance: 2.8981% / 0.02898110
    43.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    18.8 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
    16.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    15.2 Levant_PPNB
    4.0 TJK_Sarazm_En
    1.4 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
    0.6 Yoruba
    0.2 Dinka


    AlMirani-Jr_scaled
    Distance: 2.0949% / 0.02094947
    49.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
    16.8 Levant_PPNB
    14.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
    14.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    3.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
    1.8 WHG
    0.2 Yoruba

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    Quote Originally Posted by David067 View Post
    Punjabi Muslim Jatt (Warraich) from Gujrat, Pakistan

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 42.9
    2 S-Indian 29.08
    3 NE-Euro 12.99
    4 Caucasian 9.56
    5 SW-Asian 1.73
    6 Beringian 1.51
    7 American 1.03
    8 Siberian 0.65
    9 Mediterranean 0.55

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 3.5
    2 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 5.62
    3 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 5.73
    4 bhatia (harappa) 5.98
    5 punjabi-arain (xing) 6
    6 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 6.2
    7 sindhi (harappa) 6.45
    8 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 6.5
    9 punjabi (harappa) 6.75
    10 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 6.79
    11 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 6.94
    12 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 7.1
    13 sindhi (hgdp) 7.31
    14 haryana-jatt (harappa) 7.72
    15 pathan (hgdp) 7.98
    16 kashmiri (harappa) 8.47
    17 nepalese-a (xing) 8.8
    18 burusho (hgdp) 9.93
    19 kalash (hgdp) 10.79
    20 up-muslim (harappa) 10.9


    His father is Warraich from Gujrat and mother is Cheema from Wazirabad

    Punjabi Muslim Jatt (Bajwa)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 Baloch 41.25
    2 S-Indian 28.85
    3 Caucasian 12.87
    4 NE-Euro 12.63
    5 Siberian 1.35
    6 SW-Asian 0.98
    7 Beringian 0.97
    8 American 0.85
    9 Mediterranean 0.24

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 3.59
    2 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 3.62
    3 sindhi (harappa) 4.69
    4 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 5.13
    5 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 5.57
    6 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 6.01
    7 pathan (hgdp) 6.02
    8 bhatia (harappa) 6.09
    9 kashmiri (harappa) 6.24
    10 punjabi (harappa) 6.27
    11 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 6.28
    12 punjabi-arain (xing) 6.83
    13 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 7.31
    14 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 7.56
    15 haryana-jatt (harappa) 7.7
    16 sindhi (hgdp) 8.42
    17 kalash (hgdp) 8.74
    18 burusho (hgdp) 9.25
    19 nepalese-a (xing) 9.65
    20 gujarati-muslim (harappa) 9.91


    I have found few more Jatt like results + slightly mixed jatt like results likely from pakistan among his matches but waiting for confirmation

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