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    Quote Originally Posted by Themaster View Post
    Are Indo Mauritians similar in ethnic origin to Indo Caribbean people? Because being Indo Fijian yes most people are from Eastern UP/ Bihar, then South India but after that from many other regions including Haryana and Punjab. Also free migrant Punjabi’s and Gujaratis also came later to Fiji.
    I have relatives in Mauritius* - some still speak Bhojpuri (though in the current generation there is shift to French and English).

    *Gujadhur
    http://www.mauritiustimes.com/mt/nivriti-sewtohul-7/
    "Gujadhur family had to bathe in the Ganges and pay 2 lakhs rupees to the village pancayat in order to recover the Brahmin status they lost by ‘crossing the seven seas’ (Sarup-Gujadhur 2008: 56). But the Gujadhur did not first come to Mauritius as indentured labourers. This kala pani taboo refers to a Brahminical vision of castes and travelling, only shared by orthodox upper-echelon castes which rarely became indentured."
    https://journals.openedition.org/samaj/3886#ftn25
    "The Indo-Mauritians are people of Indian descent. (Who) represent a majority, comprising 68 percent of the population? Their total population is estimated to be 855, 000. A majority of Indo-Mauritians are of Bihari descent. There is a significant migrant population in Mauritius of Bhumihar Brahmins, who has made a mark for themselves in different walks of life. They are still in touch with family members in India and there are many instances of marital relations between them, maintained in order to keep their cultural heritage intact". Jain, R K, 2010: 4 "The untold saga of a Mauritian family (known as the Gujadhur (after first male arrival, Puran Gujadhur Singh) hailing from the desperate village of Kajoor and Satamas (district Gaya) in Bihar, who will rise from the shackles of poverty to become, a few decades later, one of the richest families in the world. It may be that few of the (immigrants) achieved as much as the Gujadhurs- in fact, I know of no other family of Indian origin, who achieved what the Gujadhurs did in such a short span of time, but all the same, I am more convinced than ever that the story of Indian immigration to Mauritius should be returned to and celebrated more often as a momentous success story". Jean Claude de I' Estrac, 2008, Foreword to Leela Sarup's "Unraveling the Thread: The Gujadhurs of Mauritius, V."
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...u_joint_family

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    I have relatives in Mauritius* - some still speak Bhojpuri (though in the current generation there is shift to French and English).

    *Gujadhur
    http://www.mauritiustimes.com/mt/nivriti-sewtohul-7/
    "Gujadhur family had to bathe in the Ganges and pay 2 lakhs rupees to the village pancayat in order to recover the Brahmin status they lost by ‘crossing the seven seas’ (Sarup-Gujadhur 2008: 56). But the Gujadhur did not first come to Mauritius as indentured labourers. This kala pani taboo refers to a Brahminical vision of castes and travelling, only shared by orthodox upper-echelon castes which rarely became indentured."
    https://journals.openedition.org/samaj/3886#ftn25
    "The Indo-Mauritians are people of Indian descent. (Who) represent a majority, comprising 68 percent of the population? Their total population is estimated to be 855, 000. A majority of Indo-Mauritians are of Bihari descent. There is a significant migrant population in Mauritius of Bhumihar Brahmins, who has made a mark for themselves in different walks of life. They are still in touch with family members in India and there are many instances of marital relations between them, maintained in order to keep their cultural heritage intact". Jain, R K, 2010: 4 "The untold saga of a Mauritian family (known as the Gujadhur (after first male arrival, Puran Gujadhur Singh) hailing from the desperate village of Kajoor and Satamas (district Gaya) in Bihar, who will rise from the shackles of poverty to become, a few decades later, one of the richest families in the world. It may be that few of the (immigrants) achieved as much as the Gujadhurs- in fact, I know of no other family of Indian origin, who achieved what the Gujadhurs did in such a short span of time, but all the same, I am more convinced than ever that the story of Indian immigration to Mauritius should be returned to and celebrated more often as a momentous success story". Jean Claude de I' Estrac, 2008, Foreword to Leela Sarup's "Unraveling the Thread: The Gujadhurs of Mauritius, V."
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...u_joint_family
    This is so cool that there's a connection across the globe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    I have relatives in Mauritius* - some still speak Bhojpuri (though in the current generation there is shift to French and English).

    *Gujadhur
    http://www.mauritiustimes.com/mt/nivriti-sewtohul-7/
    "Gujadhur family had to bathe in the Ganges and pay 2 lakhs rupees to the village pancayat in order to recover the Brahmin status they lost by ‘crossing the seven seas’ (Sarup-Gujadhur 2008: 56). But the Gujadhur did not first come to Mauritius as indentured labourers. This kala pani taboo refers to a Brahminical vision of castes and travelling, only shared by orthodox upper-echelon castes which rarely became indentured."
    https://journals.openedition.org/samaj/3886#ftn25
    "The Indo-Mauritians are people of Indian descent. (Who) represent a majority, comprising 68 percent of the population? Their total population is estimated to be 855, 000. A majority of Indo-Mauritians are of Bihari descent. There is a significant migrant population in Mauritius of Bhumihar Brahmins, who has made a mark for themselves in different walks of life. They are still in touch with family members in India and there are many instances of marital relations between them, maintained in order to keep their cultural heritage intact". Jain, R K, 2010: 4 "The untold saga of a Mauritian family (known as the Gujadhur (after first male arrival, Puran Gujadhur Singh) hailing from the desperate village of Kajoor and Satamas (district Gaya) in Bihar, who will rise from the shackles of poverty to become, a few decades later, one of the richest families in the world. It may be that few of the (immigrants) achieved as much as the Gujadhurs- in fact, I know of no other family of Indian origin, who achieved what the Gujadhurs did in such a short span of time, but all the same, I am more convinced than ever that the story of Indian immigration to Mauritius should be returned to and celebrated more often as a momentous success story". Jean Claude de I' Estrac, 2008, Foreword to Leela Sarup's "Unraveling the Thread: The Gujadhurs of Mauritius, V."
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...u_joint_family
    Double post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    I have relatives in Mauritius* - some still speak Bhojpuri (though in the current generation there is shift to French and English).

    *Gujadhur
    http://www.mauritiustimes.com/mt/nivriti-sewtohul-7/
    "Gujadhur family had to bathe in the Ganges and pay 2 lakhs rupees to the village pancayat in order to recover the Brahmin status they lost by ‘crossing the seven seas’ (Sarup-Gujadhur 2008: 56). But the Gujadhur did not first come to Mauritius as indentured labourers. This kala pani taboo refers to a Brahminical vision of castes and travelling, only shared by orthodox upper-echelon castes which rarely became indentured."
    https://journals.openedition.org/samaj/3886#ftn25
    "The Indo-Mauritians are people of Indian descent. (Who) represent a majority, comprising 68 percent of the population? Their total population is estimated to be 855, 000. A majority of Indo-Mauritians are of Bihari descent. There is a significant migrant population in Mauritius of Bhumihar Brahmins, who has made a mark for themselves in different walks of life. They are still in touch with family members in India and there are many instances of marital relations between them, maintained in order to keep their cultural heritage intact". Jain, R K, 2010: 4 "The untold saga of a Mauritian family (known as the Gujadhur (after first male arrival, Puran Gujadhur Singh) hailing from the desperate village of Kajoor and Satamas (district Gaya) in Bihar, who will rise from the shackles of poverty to become, a few decades later, one of the richest families in the world. It may be that few of the (immigrants) achieved as much as the Gujadhurs- in fact, I know of no other family of Indian origin, who achieved what the Gujadhurs did in such a short span of time, but all the same, I am more convinced than ever that the story of Indian immigration to Mauritius should be returned to and celebrated more often as a momentous success story". Jean Claude de I' Estrac, 2008, Foreword to Leela Sarup's "Unraveling the Thread: The Gujadhurs of Mauritius, V."
    https://www.researchgate.net/publica...u_joint_family
    I'm assuming you're Indo Mauritian as well ? Are there any notable people from outside of the Hindi belt and the south there ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themaster View Post
    I'm assuming you're Indo Mauritian as well ? ...
    No I'm not Indo-Mauritian. The relatives I mentioned are.

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    v3 makes alot more sense tbh.
    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 70.38
    2 E_Eurasian 28.84


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Sindhi @ 1.627461
    2 GujaratiA @ 1.710931
    3 Kshatriya @ 2.145699
    4 Kashmiri_Pandit @ 3.348711
    5 Uzbek_Afghan @ 3.510926
    6 Kurd_SE @ 3.870975
    7 Tajik @ 4.356021
    8 Tajik_Afghan @ 5.314993
    9 Pathan @ 5.678350
    10 Turkmen @ 5.885023
    11 Pashtun_Afghan @ 7.018645
    12 GujaratiB @ 7.156156
    13 UP_Brahmin @ 7.191258
    14 Burusho @ 7.250609
    15 Kalash @ 8.535342
    16 Vaish @ 9.931052
    17 Punjabi @ 11.738305
    18 Meghawal @ 12.470393
    19 GujaratiC @ 13.020225
    20 Tamil_Brahmin @ 13.032165

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Balkar +50% UP_Caste @ 0.000000
    2 50% Balkar +50% Uzbek @ 0.000000
    3 50% Bengali +50% Chechen @ 0.000000
    4 50% Burusho +50% Pashtun_Afghan @ 0.000000
    5 50% GujaratiB +50% Pashtun_Afghan @ 0.000000
    6 50% GujaratiC +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.000000
    7 50% Jains +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.000000
    8 50% Pashtun_Afghan +50% UP_Brahmin @ 0.000000
    9 50% Pathan +50% Tajik_Afghan @ 0.000000
    10 50% Pathan +50% Turkmen @ 0.000000
    11 50% Tajik_Pomiri +50% Tamil_Brahmin @ 0.000000
    12 50% Meghawal +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.419546
    13 50% Hazara +50% Sardinian @ 0.450342
    14 50% Tajik +50% Uzbek_Afghan @ 0.497656
    15 50% Tajik_Pomiri +50% Turkmen_Afghan @ 0.501032
    16 50% French_South +50% Hazara @ 0.501177
    17 50% Hazara +50% LBK_EN @ 0.502078
    18 50% Chenchu +50% Loschbour @ 0.512447
    19 50% Kallar +50% Mordovian @ 0.535916
    20 50% Chechen +50% Kamsali @ 0.543575


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +25% Altaian +25% Kshatriya @ 0.000000
    Gedmatch Kits:
    MJ1661095 Myheritage
    JZ1078191 Ancestry
    HN6848975 23andme

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    V5:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 67.56
    2 E_Eurasian 32.44


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Tajik_Afghan @ 1.039035
    2 Uzbek_Afghan @ 1.266520
    3 Kashmiri_Pandit @ 1.353729
    4 Turkmen @ 1.856138
    5 UP_Brahmin @ 2.801896
    6 Burusho @ 2.876640
    7 GujaratiB @ 2.884291
    8 GujaratiA @ 3.065869
    9 Kshatriya @ 3.356962
    10 Vaish @ 5.766782
    11 Sindhi @ 6.010535
    12 Punjabi @ 7.340628
    13 Kurd_SE @ 7.390236
    14 Meghawal @ 8.163568
    15 GujaratiC @ 8.556829
    16 Tamil_Brahmin @ 8.596217
    17 Tajik @ 8.890250
    18 Turkmen_Afghan @ 9.240769
    19 Jains @ 9.260715
    20 Pathan @ 10.264463

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Chechen +50% Hazara @ 0.317223
    2 50% Tajik +50% Turkmen_Afghan @ 0.627667
    3 50% Kashmiri_Pandit +50% Tajik_Afghan @ 0.696606
    4 50% Tajik_Afghan +50% Uzbek_Afghan @ 0.716800
    5 50% Tajik_Pomiri +50% Uzbek @ 0.805361
    6 50% GujaratiC +50% Tajik @ 0.834100
    7 50% Kashmiri_Pandit +50% Turkmen @ 0.951590
    8 50% Tajik +50% Tamil_Brahmin @ 0.969449
    9 50% Pathan +50% Turkmen_Afghan @ 0.981684
    10 50% Turkmen +50% Uzbek_Afghan @ 1.023943
    11 50% Kashmiri_Pandit +50% UP_Brahmin @ 1.026413
    12 50% Tajik_Afghan +50% Tajik_Afghan @ 1.039035
    13 50% GujaratiA +50% UP_Brahmin @ 1.041728
    14 50% Hazara_Afghan +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 1.042880
    15 50% Burusho +50% Kashmiri_Pandit @ 1.066424
    16 50% Burusho +50% GujaratiA @ 1.068000
    17 50% Jains +50% Tajik @ 1.080931
    18 50% Hazara +50% Loschbour @ 1.103592
    19 50% UP_Brahmin +50% Uzbek_Afghan @ 1.128164
    20 50% GujaratiB +50% Kashmiri_Pandit @ 1.146244


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Adygei +25% Ami +25% Finnish @ 0.000000

    v3:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 68.90
    2 E_Eurasian 30.10
    3 SSA 1.00


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 GujaratiA @ 0.000000
    2 Kshatriya @ 0.801498
    3 Kashmiri_Pandit @ 1.526621
    4 Uzbek_Afghan @ 1.649426
    5 Sindhi @ 3.141534
    6 Tajik_Afghan @ 3.415492
    7 Turkmen @ 3.942272
    8 Kurd_SE @ 4.640929
    9 GujaratiB @ 5.220670
    10 UP_Brahmin @ 5.267557
    11 Burusho @ 5.318915
    12 Tajik @ 6.307252
    13 Pathan @ 7.613526
    14 Vaish @ 7.978727
    15 Pashtun_Afghan @ 8.954329
    16 Punjabi @ 9.793886
    17 Kalash @ 10.486396
    18 Meghawal @ 10.520081
    19 GujaratiC @ 11.085999
    20 Tamil_Brahmin @ 11.092506

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Armenian +50% Hazara @ 0.000000
    2 50% Finnish +50% Kamsali @ 0.000000
    3 50% Finnish +50% UP_Chamar @ 0.000000
    4 50% GujaratiA +50% GujaratiA @ 0.000000
    5 50% GujaratiD +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.000000
    6 50% Kalash +50% Meghawal @ 0.000000
    7 50% Kamsali +50% Mordovian @ 0.000000
    8 50% Russian +50% UP_Chamar @ 0.000000
    9 50% Sindhi +50% Tajik_Afghan @ 0.000000
    10 50% Mordovian +50% UP_Chamar @ 0.267244
    11 50% Kamsali +50% Russian @ 0.288727
    12 50% Bengali +50% Russian @ 0.353933
    13 50% Georgian +50% Hazara @ 0.396333
    14 50% GujaratiA +50% Kshatriya @ 0.398835
    15 50% Adygei +50% Mala @ 0.406917
    16 50% Pathan +50% Vaish @ 0.418555
    17 50% Pashtun_Afghan +50% Punjabi @ 0.420278
    18 50% Adygei +50% Chenchu @ 0.421987
    19 50% Balkar +50% Kallar @ 0.454034
    20 50% Balkar +50% Bhil @ 0.474502


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +25% Ami +25% Iranian @ 0.000000


    SISTER 2:

    V5:
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 69.40
    2 E_Eurasian 30.60


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 GujaratiA @ 1.198504
    2 Kashmiri_Pandit @ 1.528062
    3 Uzbek_Afghan @ 1.742250
    4 Kshatriya @ 2.029804
    5 Tajik_Afghan @ 3.461478
    6 Sindhi @ 3.718370
    7 Turkmen @ 4.149673
    8 UP_Brahmin @ 5.336692
    9 GujaratiB @ 5.362727
    10 Burusho @ 5.405056
    11 Kurd_SE @ 5.605087
    12 Tajik @ 6.290644
    13 Pathan @ 7.674485
    14 Vaish @ 8.230044
    15 Pashtun_Afghan @ 8.997818
    16 Punjabi @ 9.907578
    17 Kalash @ 10.426950
    18 Meghawal @ 10.700636
    19 GujaratiC @ 11.146091
    20 Tamil_Brahmin @ 11.177862

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Hazara +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
    2 50% Hazara +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    3 50% Hazara +50% Ukrainian @ 0.000000
    4 50% Belarusian +50% Hazara @ 0.663100
    5 50% Bulgarian +50% Hazara @ 0.675556
    6 50% GujaratiC +50% Kalash @ 0.715290
    7 50% Georgian +50% Hazara @ 0.745252
    8 50% Hazara +50% Norwegian @ 0.745485
    9 50% Bengali +50% Russian @ 0.799596
    10 50% Kalash +50% Turkmen_Afghan @ 0.812462
    11 50% Kalash +50% Tamil_Brahmin @ 0.817108
    12 50% Bengali +50% Finnish @ 0.833017
    13 50% Kalash +50% Punjabi @ 0.864999
    14 50% Tajik +50% UP_Brahmin @ 0.878775
    15 50% Burusho +50% Tajik @ 0.887697
    16 50% Bengali +50% Mordovian @ 0.890566
    17 50% Czech +50% Hazara @ 0.920588
    18 50% Croatian +50% Hazara @ 0.963309
    19 50% Estonian +50% Hazara @ 0.994549
    20 50% GujaratiB +50% Tajik @ 1.022415


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Adygei +25% Ami +25% Hungarian @ 0.000000

    v3:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 70.78
    2 E_Eurasian 27.76
    3 SSA 1.46


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Sindhi @ 0.365970
    2 GujaratiA @ 2.819083
    3 Kurd_SE @ 2.860225
    4 Kshatriya @ 2.912797
    5 Tajik @ 3.513866
    6 Kashmiri_Pandit @ 4.530777
    7 Uzbek_Afghan @ 4.673472
    8 Pathan @ 4.697242
    9 Pashtun_Afghan @ 6.032085
    10 Tajik_Afghan @ 6.445988
    11 Turkmen @ 6.940805
    12 Kalash @ 7.627374
    13 GujaratiB @ 8.221346
    14 UP_Brahmin @ 8.285254
    15 Burusho @ 8.338531
    16 Vaish @ 10.904197
    17 Balochi @ 11.871879
    18 Brahui @ 12.291943
    19 Tajik_Pomiri @ 12.303641
    20 Punjabi @ 12.774794

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Belarusian +50% Hallkipiki @ 0.000000
    2 50% Bengali +50% Kurd_N @ 0.000000
    3 50% Estonian +50% Hallkipiki @ 0.000000
    4 50% Estonian +50% Mala @ 0.000000
    5 50% Finnish +50% Kurumba @ 0.000000
    6 50% Kurumba +50% Mordovian @ 0.000000
    7 50% Kurumba +50% Russian @ 0.000000
    8 50% Turkish +50% UP_Kol @ 0.000000
    9 50% Belarusian +50% Mala @ 0.262138
    10 50% Abkhasian +50% Mala @ 0.283859
    11 50% Adygei +50% Piramalai @ 0.293915
    12 50% Belarusian +50% Chenchu @ 0.301781
    13 50% Bhil +50% Chechen @ 0.320160
    14 50% Adygei +50% Tharu @ 0.364540
    15 50% Sindhi +50% Sindhi @ 0.365970
    16 50% Madiga +50% Ukrainian @ 0.391570
    17 50% Adygei +50% Kallar @ 0.392719
    18 50% Chechen +50% Kallar @ 0.412109
    19 50% Chenchu +50% Estonian @ 0.467610
    20 50% Chechen +50% Tharu @ 0.472086


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +25% Altaian +25% Kurd_SE @ 0.000000
    Gedmatch Kits:
    MJ1661095 Myheritage
    JZ1078191 Ancestry
    HN6848975 23andme

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