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    For those who don't understand Russian, lukasz's map shows Slavic people ("narodi Slavyanskiye") in yellow and mossy-yellow, with the other groups being non-Slavs ("narodi nye Slavyanskiye").

    That traditional italicised Cyrillic style is hard to read, at least for me, so it isn't especially clear what the divisions are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMXX View Post
    For those who don't understand Russian, lukasz's map shows Slavic people ("narodi Slavyanskiye") in yellow and mossy-yellow, with the other groups being non-Slavs ("narodi nye Slavyanskiye").

    That traditional italicised Cyrillic style is hard to read, at least for me, so it isn't especially clear what the divisions are.
    Serbians-Croatians in yellow and Bulgarians in Green.
    ᾽Άλλο δέ τοι ἐρέω, σὺ δ᾽ ἐνὶ φρεσὶ βάλλεο σῇσιν:
    κρύβδην, μηδ᾽ ἀναφανδά, φίλην ἐς πατρίδα γαῖαν
    νῆα κατισχέμεναι: ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι πιστὰ γυναιξίν.


    -Αγαμέμνων; H Οδύσσεια, Ραψωδία λ

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    Here Macedonians and Bulgars are grouped
    This guy distinguished Bulgarian and Slavic Macedonian languages from each other already back in the 1600s:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hieronymus_Megiser

    See also "Introductio in Chaldaicam linguam, Syriacam, atque Armenicam, & decem alias linguas" (from 1539).
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    Is this wanker similar to us (Belarusians, Poles of Belarus, Poles of eastern Lithuania) in terms of culture, genetic profiles? I doubt. He doesn't strike me as one.

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    I am R1a-Z92 not to be confused with R1a-Z93. Z92 is under Z280. (Balts and eastern Slavs - Belarusians, Russians).

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    Quote Originally Posted by martinmkp View Post
    But Serbo-Croat concept or "South Slavic" (Jugoslavia) concept never worked. Due to several reasons - Croatians never wanted to be together with Serbs, Religious differences (Catholics versus Eastern Christians), possibly geopolitical border between Western European and Eastern European values.

    And those different West-East European values are the key to understand why fe Croats and Serbs or Poles and Russians will never cooperate, and this is why concept of One Slavic Commonwealth will never ever work, and never did. The imaginary geopolitics and its borders do work well.
    The ultimate cause is the border between Eastern and Western part of Roman Empire and Slavs settling on both sides. Germanics hat too, but last notable part of them east of that border left/dissolved in 567 (Gepids).

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    Ok more maps which I have.

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    I would suggest you to be careful with this type of maps. These are maps that were usually drawn before major conflicts on a world scale or before peace conferences or other conferences between Great Powers such as the Berlin Congress or the Paris Peace Conference after the First World War, the map in the OP for example is of the year 1918. The intention of the authors of these maps was to promote the expansionist aspirations of various countries or Great Powers. For example, it is documented that before the Berlin Congress the famous Greek historian Paparigopulos corrupted the most important 19th century cartographer, Kiepert, because he drew maps that suited Greece and its expansionist aims. For this, a little attention.

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