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    DNALAND

    Must be fake and ancestry is a joke.

    IŽam Assyrian/Syriac and speak west syriac langued wich is a semite langued. But all test give dffrent resualt and worst of all are DNA.Land. IŽam not indo european iŽam a real semite.

    Check this:

    West Eurasian 100% Central Indoeuropean 62%
    Arab/Egyptian 20%
    Balkan 16%
    Mediterranean Islander 1.7%


    Ancestry:


    Middle East
    50%
    Range: 42%—59%

    Turkey and the Caucasus
    50%
    Range: 50%—66%


    myFTDNA:

    my orgins:

    Middle Eastern 88%
    Jewish Diaspora 9%
    Central/South Asian 2%

    anicent orgins:

    66% farmer
    34% metal age invader

    gedmatch:

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle result

    1 East_Med 41.45
    2 West_Asian 31.91
    3 West_Med 12.7
    4 Red_Sea 7.76
    5 South_Asian 4.55
    6 North_Atlantic 1.15
    7 Oceanian 0.26
    8 Siberian 0.22

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Assyrian 2.79
    2 Kurdish_Jewish 3.79
    3 Iranian_Jewish 4.59
    4 Georgian_Jewish 6.68
    5 Armenian 8.83
    6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.48
    7 Syrian 11.81
    8 Lebanese_Druze 12.18
    9 Lebanese_Christian 12.41
    10 Cyprian 13.28
    11 Turkish 13.41
    12 Samaritan 14.42
    13 Azeri 14.55
    14 Kurdish 14.7
    15 Iranian 15.37
    16 Jordanian 15.96
    17 Palestinian 16.86
    18 Tunisian_Jewish 21.19
    19 Bedouin 21.56
    20 Libyan_Jewish 21.87

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 89% Assyrian + 11% Lebanese_Christian 2.35
    2 91.5% Assyrian + 8.5% Samaritan 2.46
    3 68.7% Assyrian + 31.3% Kurdish_Jewish 2.46
    4 90.7% Assyrian + 9.3% Lebanese_Druze 2.51
    5 78% Assyrian + 22% Iranian_Jewish 2.58
    6 93.4% Assyrian + 6.6% Cyprian 2.63
    7 75.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 24.3% Armenian 2.65
    8 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Yemenite_Jewish 2.69
    9 95.9% Assyrian + 4.1% Palestinian 2.7
    10 92.8% Assyrian + 7.2% Lebanese_Muslim 2.7
    11 96.8% Assyrian + 3.2% Tunisian_Jewish 2.71
    12 97% Assyrian + 3% Libyan_Jewish 2.71
    13 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Algerian_Jewish 2.74
    14 99% Assyrian + 1% Sardinian 2.74
    15 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Italian_Jewish 2.74
    16 96% Assyrian + 4% Syrian 2.75
    17 98% Assyrian + 2% Sephardic_Jewish 2.75
    18 97.3% Assyrian + 2.7% Jordanian 2.76
    19 98.6% Assyrian + 1.4% Egyptian 2.76
    20 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Saudi 2.77


    I cant be indoeuropean, iam not caucsus or caucasian. IŽam a semite, do this tests really work on us. Maybe semites have not take the test so data is incorrect. Iam sorry for my poor english and if i ask stupid questions.
    A indoeuropean langued cant change to a semite langued just like that. Our church can track my ancestors hundreds of years back and prove we talk semite langued.


    I can add i was born Istanbul but got my roots in south east Turkey. Anadol or Anatolia.
    Last edited by Syriac; 10-06-2018 at 09:48 PM.

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    Post K36 I have few Syriac kits so I can compare.

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    K36

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 8.35
    Armenian 14.26
    Basque 1.74
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med 26.97
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 2.55
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 19.68
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian 7.16
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 5.21
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 13.45
    West_Med 0.63

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syriac View Post
    K36

    Population
    Amerindian -
    Arabian 8.35
    Armenian 14.26
    Basque 1.74
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan -
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med 26.97
    Eastern_Euro -
    Fennoscandian -
    French -
    Iberian -
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 2.55
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 19.68
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic -
    North_Caucasian 7.16
    North_Sea -
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian 5.21
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 13.45
    West_Med 0.63
    In my K36 nMonte there are your top pops

    IQ_Chaldean 0.9191455
    Assyrians 1.0036857
    Iraqi_Jew 1.0249031
    IQ_Syriac 1.1584880
    Georgian_Jew 1.1709080
    Iranian_Jew 1.1977449
    Azerbeijani_Jew 1.2165638
    Kurdish_Jew 1.2427411
    IQ_Mandean 1.3104920
    Armenians 1.3290796

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syriac View Post
    Must be fake and ancestry is a joke.

    IŽam Assyrian/Syriac and speak west syriac langued wich is a semite langued. But all test give dffrent resualt and worst of all are DNA.Land. IŽam not indo european iŽam a real semite.

    Check this:

    West Eurasian 100% Central Indoeuropean 62%
    Arab/Egyptian 20%
    Balkan 16%
    Mediterranean Islander 1.7%


    Ancestry:


    Middle East
    50%
    Range: 42%—59%

    Turkey and the Caucasus
    50%
    Range: 50%—66%


    myFTDNA:

    my orgins:

    Middle Eastern 88%
    Jewish Diaspora 9%
    Central/South Asian 2%

    anicent orgins:

    66% farmer
    34% metal age invader

    gedmatch:

    Eurogenes K13 Oracle result

    1 East_Med 41.45
    2 West_Asian 31.91
    3 West_Med 12.7
    4 Red_Sea 7.76
    5 South_Asian 4.55
    6 North_Atlantic 1.15
    7 Oceanian 0.26
    8 Siberian 0.22

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Assyrian 2.79
    2 Kurdish_Jewish 3.79
    3 Iranian_Jewish 4.59
    4 Georgian_Jewish 6.68
    5 Armenian 8.83
    6 Lebanese_Muslim 9.48
    7 Syrian 11.81
    8 Lebanese_Druze 12.18
    9 Lebanese_Christian 12.41
    10 Cyprian 13.28
    11 Turkish 13.41
    12 Samaritan 14.42
    13 Azeri 14.55
    14 Kurdish 14.7
    15 Iranian 15.37
    16 Jordanian 15.96
    17 Palestinian 16.86
    18 Tunisian_Jewish 21.19
    19 Bedouin 21.56
    20 Libyan_Jewish 21.87

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 89% Assyrian + 11% Lebanese_Christian 2.35
    2 91.5% Assyrian + 8.5% Samaritan 2.46
    3 68.7% Assyrian + 31.3% Kurdish_Jewish 2.46
    4 90.7% Assyrian + 9.3% Lebanese_Druze 2.51
    5 78% Assyrian + 22% Iranian_Jewish 2.58
    6 93.4% Assyrian + 6.6% Cyprian 2.63
    7 75.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 24.3% Armenian 2.65
    8 97.7% Assyrian + 2.3% Yemenite_Jewish 2.69
    9 95.9% Assyrian + 4.1% Palestinian 2.7
    10 92.8% Assyrian + 7.2% Lebanese_Muslim 2.7
    11 96.8% Assyrian + 3.2% Tunisian_Jewish 2.71
    12 97% Assyrian + 3% Libyan_Jewish 2.71
    13 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Algerian_Jewish 2.74
    14 99% Assyrian + 1% Sardinian 2.74
    15 97.8% Assyrian + 2.2% Italian_Jewish 2.74
    16 96% Assyrian + 4% Syrian 2.75
    17 98% Assyrian + 2% Sephardic_Jewish 2.75
    18 97.3% Assyrian + 2.7% Jordanian 2.76
    19 98.6% Assyrian + 1.4% Egyptian 2.76
    20 98.9% Assyrian + 1.1% Saudi 2.77


    I cant be indoeuropean, iam not caucsus or caucasian. IŽam a semite, do this tests really work on us. Maybe semites have not take the test so data is incorrect. Iam sorry for my poor english and if i ask stupid questions.
    A indoeuropean langued cant change to a semite langued just like that. Our church can track my ancestors hundreds of years back and prove we talk semite langued.


    I can add i was born Istanbul but got my roots in south east Turkey. Anadol or Anatolia.
    Shlomo ahuno!

    From what I can see of your Gedmatch results you seem to have typical results, keep in mind that the Assyrian average on Eurogenes is made of Eastern Assyrians mostly Church of the East followers.
    I wouldn't take the results from FTDNA, DNA land or Ancestry too serious since their reference populations are quite broad and mostly focused on Europeans.

    I presume your family is originally from Tur Abdin? Btw nice to see some Assyrians still living in Turkey.

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    lukaszM, Thanks alot. Thats very strange result. I know my mom can be Chaldean or Assyrian. None dna sites have linked me to Iraq and thats kinda strange since Iraq is close to the south east Turkey. What i can see i have been linked to Jordan, Palestina, Israel, Lebanon, Syria but most to Turkey Anatolia. Your test seem to show that iŽam most likely Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac.
    Last edited by Syriac; 10-09-2018 at 07:51 AM.

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    Helves, yes iŽam from Turabdin Anatolia. I donŽt live in Turkey anymore i live in Sweden. There is not many Syriac still in Turkey, you maybe heard of seyfo and that we dont got the same rights as the muslim population. Thats kinda strange when i look on mine dna, iŽam more turkish then most turks becuse the link alot more to Greece. Many turks seem to share the same DNA to, so they are proabally Syriac, Assyrians to. My test resultat show iŽam not mixed whit europeans, mongols and africans.

    Are you Syriac to since you say ahuno, thats how we syriacs says. East Assyrians says Khony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syriac View Post
    lukaszM, Thanks alot. Thats very strange result. I know my mom can be Chaldean or Assyrian. None dna sites have linked me to Iraq and thats kinda strange since Iraq is close to the south east Turkey. What i can see i have been linked to Jordan, Palestina, Israel, Lebanon, Syria but most to Turkey Anatolia. Your test seem to show that iŽam most likely Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac.
    This is caused by lack of Iraq academic samples. I have them from person who tested on his own those people (bought them tests in FTDNA).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syriac View Post
    Helves, yes iŽam from Turabdin Anatolia. I donŽt live in Turkey anymore i live in Sweden. There is not many Syriac still in Turkey, you maybe heard of seyfo and that we dont got the same rights as the muslim population. Thats kinda strange when i look on mine dna, iŽam more turkish then most turks becuse the link alot more to Greece. Many turks seem to share the same DNA to, so they are proabally Syriac, Assyrians to. My test resultat show iŽam not mixed whit europeans, mongols and africans.

    Are you Syriac to since you say ahuno, thats how we syriacs says. East Assyrians says Khony.
    Yes I’m Eastern Assyrian from Northern Iraq(Chaldean Catholic), I live in Sweden though aswell.
    It’s not that strange that you get Iraqi Chaldean as first match according to Lukasz averages cause we Assyrians are rather close to one and other regardless of church or region. You can use the ”one to many” option with Gedmatch and find other Assyrians that you are related to and compare their results with yours. Generally speaking I’ve noticed Tur Abdin Assyrians are slightly Levantine shifted, but it depends on the individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lukaszM View Post
    This is caused by lack of Iraq academic samples. I have them from person who tested on his own those people (bought them tests in FTDNA).
    Are you using all of the Iraqi Syrics from the Iraqi Projects?
    These are the ones you should be using
    T895098
    T388981
    T395401
    T056096

    However many Syriacs from Mosul have gotten tested, but Chaldean Catholics and Syriacs in Iraq intermix a lot so we don't know if they are "pure". Frankly I don't think you should be dividing Iraqi Assyrians by sect especially since you have so few samples, it's like creating a Catholic average and a Protestant one for Germany.

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