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    Predicted Y-DNA Haplogroup Under Review?

    Hello Anthrogenica:

    Nearly a month ago (Sep. 20th), I received the results of my Y-12 DNA Test from Family Tree DNA. However, Family Tree DNA has not yet predicted my haplogroup, stating "Your predicted haplogroup is under review. Our team is reviewing your haplogroup prediction for accuracy. This process can take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. We apologize for the inconvenience and will update this page automatically when your prediction is ready."

    What's the average length of time that FTDNA uses to predict one's Y-DNA haplogroup? I would like to do some more advanced Y-DNA testing in the coming months, especially SNP testing, so it would be beneficial to know how and when they figure out one's haplogroup.
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    They aren't 'figuring out' your haplogroup. They will tell you your detailed haplogroup when you do a detailed haplogroup (ie SNP) test. All they are doing is faffing around trying to work out what high level haplogroup to predict you have. This does not equate to a confirmed haplogroup result.

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    Got it from the Morley Y-DNA SNP predictor. Will confirm once I am able to purchase SNPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arobert6239 View Post
    What's the average length of time that FTDNA uses to predict one's Y-DNA haplogroup?
    If your haplogroup remains "under review" for more than a few days, FTDNA is probably running a basic haplogroup test (free of charge) in order to assign you. In fact, you might use their Contact Form to confirm that they are doing exactly that.

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    Curious to know how this worked out for you, arobert.

    I'm also somewhere on the block, and just ordered my BigY. Do you have plans to do further testing?

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    It's not very accurate! Predicted R1b-M529 for me, but the actual Haplogroup was R1b-L513.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    It's not very accurate! Predicted R1b-M529 for me, but the actual Haplogroup was R1b-L513.
    That's not actually inaccurate. R-L513 is downstream of R-M529 as shown here: https://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=10
    You're positive for both R-M529 and R-L513 and your terminal SNP is likely far downstream of R-L513 if you were to do the Big Y. Before doing SNP testing, FTDNA gave a predicted haplogroup of R-M269 for my dad but once I bought the Big Y, the terminal SNP was determined to be R-BY3440.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FionnSneachta View Post
    That's not actually inaccurate. R-L513 is downstream of R-M529 as shown here: https://www.ytree.net/DisplayTree.php?blockID=10
    You're positive for both R-M529 and R-L513 and your terminal SNP is likely far downstream of R-L513 if you were to do the Big Y. Before doing SNP testing, FTDNA gave a predicted haplogroup of R-M269 for my dad but once I bought the Big Y, the terminal SNP was determined to be R-BY3440.
    Yeah, all my dad got with a 67 marker test was R-M269. BigY gave us R-BY20328 (downstream of R-M269, R-P312, R-L21, and R-DF63, among others).

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    Quote Originally Posted by arobert6239 View Post
    Got it from the Morley Y-DNA SNP predictor. Will confirm once I am able to purchase SNPs.
    The haplogroup box on the profiles is for confirmed SNP test results. I think you've reported a Z367+ result since then in which case please put that unless you have actually tested Z34+ with a SNP test. Otherwise you render profiles meaningless.
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