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Thread: A clustering of the Europeans from Global 25

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    Helgenes, JMcB
    Send your unscaled G25 scores.
    I just sent you a mail
    Thank you again
    My results from David Wesolowski's Ancestry Detective Service:

    West British (Britonic?) 42.3%
    Continental Northern and Eastern European 36.6%
    Central French 21.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helgenes50 View Post
    Can I send you the data of 3 Norman samples with 4 gp of same origin ?
    Helgenes_mum_Paul.jpg

    The overlapping region is crowded!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    Helgenes_mum_Paul.jpg

    The overlapping region is crowded!
    If I understand what I see, Paul and me are in the British cluster, that makes sense
    My mother ( M) shifted French due to her higher level of East Mediterranean, present in all her results.
    My results from David Wesolowski's Ancestry Detective Service:

    West British (Britonic?) 42.3%
    Continental Northern and Eastern European 36.6%
    Central French 21.1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcB View Post
    Hello Huijbregts,

    I suspect that I’ll be in the overlapping regions of of 1 & 2. Would you mind running mine, too?
    JMcB.jpg

    Like you suspected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Helgenes50 View Post
    If I understand what I see, Paul and me are in the British cluster, that makes sense
    My mother ( M) shifted French due to her higher level of East Mediterranean, present in all her results.
    That East Mediterranean got completely lost in the clustering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    That East Mediterranean got completely lost in the clustering.
    That's possible, but I try to understand this difference with my mother.
    Before, this one with the old calculators was due to this component.
    For David, my father had a high level of WHG compared to her. As if my parents were of two different regions.
    Now I have the luck to have a new norman, exactly from the same region and distant cousin.
    This one is more british than me.

    I think that his grand daughter will be one of us on this forum. He and I are I1, like roughly 14 % of the Normans from Cotentin ( NW Normandy)
    My results from David Wesolowski's Ancestry Detective Service:

    West British (Britonic?) 42.3%
    Continental Northern and Eastern European 36.6%
    Central French 21.1%

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    Thanks. I fully expect to be in cluster 2 but just to check it out.


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    Tim_G_father,0.0121,0.0137,0.016,0.0122,0.0143,0.0 062,0.0022,0.005,0.0038,-0.0007,-0.0018,0.0031,-0.0068,-0.0029,0.022,0.0013,-0.0162,0.0043,0.002,0.0056,0.0074,0.0031,-0.0033,0.0065,-0.0014
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    Thanks. I fully expect to be in cluster 2 but just to check it out.


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    Tim_G,0.0114,0.0129,0.0172,0.0146,0.0141,0.0069,0. 0011,0.0013,0.0034,-0.0003,-0.0016,0.0034,-0.007,-0.0081,0.0205,0.0048,-0.0163,0.0046,0.0015,0.0014,0.0035,0.0015,-0.0018,0.0071,-0.0026


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    Tim_G_father,0.0121,0.0137,0.016,0.0122,0.0143,0.0 062,0.0022,0.005,0.0038,-0.0007,-0.0018,0.0031,-0.0068,-0.0029,0.022,0.0013,-0.0162,0.0043,0.002,0.0056,0.0074,0.0031,-0.0033,0.0065,-0.0014
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    Like you expected.
    You might be more Irish than your father.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    Sure, send me your unscaled G25 scores.
    Keep in mind though that these 9 clusters are not as detailed as the 'cultural labels'.
    So probably your location will not surprise you, unless you are totally ignorant about your ancestry.
    Another possibility is that you are in the overlap of two clusters. I find that an interesting feature of this plot.
    Alright, here you go, I should be "extremely" Iberian


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    Quote Originally Posted by Huijbregts View Post
    firemonkey_dad.jpg

    Like you expected.
    You might be more Irish than your father.


    Global 25 webrunner which I know you have doubts about.

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    1 English +Irish +Orcadian +Scottish +Welsh Custom:AGUser_firemonkey 0.4225 19.17 52.5 18.33 10 0
    2 English +Irish +Orcadian +Scottish +Welsh Custom:AGUser_firemonkey_father 0.6833 15.83 15 35.83 33.33 0


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    1 English +Irish +Orcadian +Scottish +Welsh Custom:AGUser_firemonkey 0.6797 22.5 46.67 10.83 20 0
    2 English +Irish +Orcadian +Scottish +Welsh Custom:AGUser_firemonkey_father 1.3113 58.33 5 0 36.67 0
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