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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    Then a lot of people can not use with accuracy, the calculator, especially in Romania
    I think you are confusing something. There are barely any Jewish communities left in this part of Europe. Romanians and other people for whom this calculator is intended don't usually derive ancestry from Jews.

    If you are implying that you have some Jewish ancestry then indeed it might get picked up as either Thracian or Greek, because those components are more Southerly than Slavic. However, the distribution won't be accurate in such a case, so you can safely ignore the results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    Wasn't your ancestry 50% Greek and 50% Pomak? Bulgarians receive similar levels of Slavic, but with even more Thracian. In your case that is replaced with Greek-related ancestry.
    50% Pomak from Greece and 50% Balkan Turk from Bulgaria. I don't have known Greek ancestor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    50% Pomak from Greece and 50% Balkan Turk from Bulgaria. I don't have known Greek ancestor.
    Think of it as Aegean/West Anatolian related ancestry then. This calculator wasn't adjusted for Turks, but your distance is reasonable enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    I think you are confusing something. There are barely any Jewish communities left in this part of Europe. Romanians and other people for whom this calculator is intended don't usually derive ancestry from Jews.

    If you are implying that you have some Jewish ancestry then indeed it might get picked up as either Thracian or Greek, because those components are more Southerly than Slavic. However, the distribution won't be accurate in such a case, so you can safely ignore the results.
    Hebrew assimilate in all corners of Romania, trust.

    For me, 10.6 Thracian component is Balkan component real

    What do you mean? I have same as Croatian, they are not Balkan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    Hebrew assimilate in all corners of Romania, trust.

    For me, 10.6 Thracian component is Balkan component real

    What do you mean? I have same as Croatian, they are not Balkan?
    You are a newbie, mate. There's nothing wrong with that, but at the same time I won't take your word for those statements.

    You don't score similarly to average Croatians. They get around 70% in Slavic, see my 1st post. Ph2ter suspects having an additional Central European ancestry and this pattern is visible across various tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    Think of it as Aegean/West Anatolian related ancestry then. This calculator wasn't adjusted for Turks, but your distance is reasonable enough.
    Actually it best fits to Balkan Turks with the Mongolian population. Balkan Turks don't have Anatolian ancestor. They are like 70% Balkan and 30% Turkmen-Central Asian. And they could detect their East Eurasian admixture and native Balkan spreading with this calculator. I should say it is excellent work when consider it is your first attempt.

    On the other hand my known ancestor and gedmatch oracle 80% Bulgarian and 20% Uyghur. Seems like my Central Asian shifted me to the Greeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    You are a newbie, mate. There's nothing wrong with that, but at the same time I won't take your word for those statements.

    You don't score similarly to average Croatians. They get around 70% in Slavic, see my 1st post. Ph2ter suspects having an additional Central European ancestry and this pattern is visible across various tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    How many samples you use from each nationality to find these averages?
    For Ukrainians, it's 22. All the samples are taken from Davidski's Global 25 database, so I'm not adding anything on my own.
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    Slavic Migration,89
    Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World,10.6
    Mongols et al.,0.4...

    Here is PuntDNAL K13 Gedmatch

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 55.07
    2 SW_Europe 25.17
    3 West_Asia 9.84
    4 SW_Asia 3.71
    5 Siberia 1.81
    6 Oceania 1.27
    7 NE_Asia 1.09
    8 West_Africa 0.79
    9 Americas 0.48
    10 South_Africa 0.3
    11 East_Africa 0.29
    12 SE_Asia 0.17

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 91.3% Belarusian + 8.7% Nogay @ 2.11
    2 52.4% Russian + 47.6% Slovak @ 2.33
    3 92.5% Belarusian + 7.5% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 2.34
    4 93.4% Belarusian + 6.6% Afghan_Hazara @ 2.39
    5 92% Belarusian + 8% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.41
    6 57.7% Russian + 42.3% Slovene @ 2.45
    7 91.6% Belarusian + 8.4% Kumyk @ 2.46
    8 60.7% Russian + 39.3% Hungarian @ 2.48
    9 65.3% Russian + 34.7% Croatian @ 2.49
    10 92.3% Belarusian + 7.7% Balkar @ 2.54
    11 92.3% Belarusian + 7.7% Tadjik @ 2.55
    12 93% Belarusian + 7% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.57
    13 93.3% Belarusian + 6.7% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 2.59
    14 66.8% Russian + 33.2% Bosnian @ 2.6
    15 93% Belarusian + 7% Ossetian @ 2.61
    16 92.6% Belarusian + 7.4% Turkish @ 2.61
    17 93% Belarusian + 7% Dagestan_Azeri @ 2.62
    18 71.6% Russian + 28.4% Serbian @ 2.63
    19 93.8% Belarusian + 6.2% Iranian @ 2.69
    20 94.2% Belarusian + 5.8% Egyptian @ 2.72

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    Slavic Migration,89
    Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World,10.6
    Mongols et al.,0.4...

    Here is PuntDNAL K13 Gedmatch

    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 55.07
    2 SW_Europe 25.17
    3 West_Asia 9.84
    4 SW_Asia 3.71
    5 Siberia 1.81
    6 Oceania 1.27
    7 NE_Asia 1.09
    8 West_Africa 0.79
    9 Americas 0.48
    10 South_Africa 0.3
    11 East_Africa 0.29
    12 SE_Asia 0.17

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 91.3% Belarusian + 8.7% Nogay @ 2.11
    2 52.4% Russian + 47.6% Slovak @ 2.33
    3 92.5% Belarusian + 7.5% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 2.34
    4 93.4% Belarusian + 6.6% Afghan_Hazara @ 2.39
    5 92% Belarusian + 8% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.41
    6 57.7% Russian + 42.3% Slovene @ 2.45
    7 91.6% Belarusian + 8.4% Kumyk @ 2.46
    8 60.7% Russian + 39.3% Hungarian @ 2.48
    9 65.3% Russian + 34.7% Croatian @ 2.49
    10 92.3% Belarusian + 7.7% Balkar @ 2.54
    11 92.3% Belarusian + 7.7% Tadjik @ 2.55
    12 93% Belarusian + 7% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.57
    13 93.3% Belarusian + 6.7% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 2.59
    14 66.8% Russian + 33.2% Bosnian @ 2.6
    15 93% Belarusian + 7% Ossetian @ 2.61
    16 92.6% Belarusian + 7.4% Turkish @ 2.61
    17 93% Belarusian + 7% Dagestan_Azeri @ 2.62
    18 71.6% Russian + 28.4% Serbian @ 2.63
    19 93.8% Belarusian + 6.2% Iranian @ 2.69
    20 94.2% Belarusian + 5.8% Egyptian @ 2.72
    And my is:


    Slavic Migration,88
    Pre-Slavic_Thracian_World,11.4
    Mongols et al.,0.6


    # Population Percent
    1 NE_Europe 50.53
    2 SW_Europe 31.03
    3 West_Asia 9.76
    4 SW_Asia 3
    5 South_Asia 1.31
    6 Americas 1.29
    7 Siberia 1.01
    8 Oceania 0.77
    9 West_Africa 0.74
    10 South_Africa 0.48
    11 SE_Asia 0.08


    Single Population Sharing:


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 German_North 3.21
    2 Slovak 4.15
    3 Ukrainian 4.61
    4 Utahn_European 4.75
    5 Irish 5.07
    6 Slovene 5.34
    7 Orcadian 5.52
    8 Norwegian 5.55
    9 Scottish 5.74
    10 English 5.82
    11 Hungarian 6.13
    12 Swedish 7.14
    13 German_South 8.13
    14 Belgian 8.42
    15 Croatian 8.71
    16 Moldavian 8.9
    17 Belarusian 9.07
    18 Bosnian 10.44
    19 French 12.16
    20 Mordovian 13.24


    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 95.7% German_North + 4.3% Mexican @ 1.99
    2 97.1% German_North + 2.9% Eskimo @ 2.01
    3 94% German_North + 6% Colombian @ 2.05
    4 96.4% German_North + 3.6% Ecuadorian @ 2.08
    5 98% German_North + 2% Pima @ 2.16
    6 98% German_North + 2% Mayan @ 2.18
    7 98.1% German_North + 1.9% Karitiana @ 2.19
    8 98.1% German_North + 1.9% Surui @ 2.19
    9 98.1% German_North + 1.9% Colombian @ 2.19
    10 92.4% German_North + 7.6% Aluet @ 2.27
    11 70.9% English + 29.1% Mordovian @ 2.29
    12 97.5% German_North + 2.5% Chukchi @ 2.3
    13 64.4% German_South + 35.6% Russian @ 2.31
    14 93.6% German_North + 6.4% Puerto_Rican @ 2.33
    15 89.2% Norwegian + 10.8% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.33
    16 95.9% German_North + 4.1% Dominican @ 2.34
    17 97.3% German_North + 2.7% Mawasi @ 2.35
    18 97.7% German_North + 2.3% Biaka_Pygmy @ 2.35
    19 97.7% German_North + 2.3% Bantu_SE @ 2.38
    20 97.5% German_North + 2.5% Paniya @ 2.39


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