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    My World K=12 G25 calculator

    It becomes popular now, so let me try...

    Code:
    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC22,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Atlantic,0.1319083,0.1504111,0.0582862,0.0090081,0.0575834,0.0001239,-0.0033162,0.0004102,0.0313603,0.0455997,-0.0045288,0.0116063,-0.0227781,-0.0187627,0.0179452,0.0037271,-0.0058094,0.0027731,-0.0018156,-6.96e-05,0.0087901,0.0024868,-0.0068883,-0.0090371,0.0022619
    Baltic,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.089471,0.043208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
    Mediterranean,0.121601,0.1668853,0.0284097,-0.0507648,0.0604727,-0.0224507,-0.0036817,0.004269,0.0418593,0.0789385,-0.0009472,0.0160105,-0.0277253,-0.0140145,-0.0122827,-0.0020772,0.0132775,-0.0012035,0.0010473,-0.0122348,-0.004679,-0.0037715,-0.0091617,-0.0218903,-0.0008383
    Levantine,0.0997375,0.146744,-0.0378534,-0.0702525,-0.0070011,-0.0242986,0.001645,-0.0047594,0.0029656,0.0138728,0.0044454,-0.0001499,0.0025459,0.0018234,-0.0086014,0.0008947,0.0023631,0.0009978,0.0022469,-0.0012506,-0.0024489,0.0011438,-0.0027115,0.0017774,-0.0020656
    Caucasian,0.1047173,0.0868275,-0.0295098,-0.023902,-0.0398535,0.005717,0.0120442,-0.0008655,-0.055375,-0.031208,-0.002517,0.0086172,-0.019177,-0.0029248,0.0109595,-0.0176012,0.0072362,-0.0060175,-0.0154925,0.0167268,0.0074242,0.0014217,-0.0020028,-0.008224,-0.0036822
    Turkic,0.059188,-0.141159,0.010559,-0.000646,-0.03693,-0.000279,-0.003995,0.003923,-0.016566,-0.007836,-0.020136,-0.004196,-0.000595,-0.003165,0.011672,-0.008486,-0.022165,-0.000253,0.00088,-0.006378,-0.005615,-0.001237,-0.00037,0.003133,0.006466
    EastAsian,0.020488,-0.452723,-0.0126712,-0.0650522,0.0841386,0.036535,0.004136,-0.0053538,-0.0131304,0.0005466,-0.0489114,-0.0063544,0.0055302,-0.0077344,-0.0086046,0.0002384,0.0005998,-0.0036232,-0.0091508,-0.0099548,0.0151232,0.016792,0.0218888,-0.0020002,0.0060352
    SouthAsian,0.0092766,-0.1553252,-0.1854302,0.1328348,-0.054564,0.0543279,-0.0056518,0.0159338,0.0827606,0.0537232,0.0021597,-0.0003896,-0.0007804,0.012214,-0.0218918,-0.0179792,0.0139966,-0.0004053,-0.0024324,0.0231424,0.0067818,0.0101643,-0.0051086,0.0055066,-0.0076999
    Iberomaurusian,-0.1950928,0.0838824,-0.0220238,-0.0860472,0.0300366,-0.057284,-0.0743572,0.017953,0.1578106,0.0036082,0.0185774,-0.032521,0.0781954,-0.0503696,0.071036,-0.0394586,0.0052676,-0.066765,-0.1426924,0.0345916,-0.0395804,-0.1231336,0.0711878,-0.013303,0.0179384
    SouthAfrican,-0.6493608,0.0578852,0.0250785,0.038437,-0.001077,0.0054385,0.3631505,-0.291911,0.0193278,0.0323013,-0.0090938,0.2169692,0.1242805,3.45e-05,0.0080072,0.0017568,0.000717,-0.049567,0.015901,0.004471,0.0049288,-0.0020402,-0.002465,0.0057838,0.000389
    Australian,-0.041887,-0.2321502,-0.2081706,0.2292664,0.1405186,-0.3368442,0.00094,0.0043844,-0.0079762,0.0010208,-0.0061382,-0.00021,0.0010406,-0.0006332,-0.0032574,-0.0009548,0.0106656,0.0001522,-0.002514,0.0078536,0.0050162,0.0017308,-0.0040178,0.0022652,-0.0045984
    Amerindian,0.0583345,-0.3200188,0.1179918,0.1086501,-0.1127518,-0.0137701,-0.3229046,-0.3801476,-0.0152882,-0.0184289,0.0016239,-0.0021168,-0.002267,0.0271118,-0.0044108,0.0039943,0.0105938,0.003088,-0.0001257,-0.0010943,-0.0052875,0.0116542,-0.0042056,-0.0014309,-0.0074095
    Some results:

    "distance%=1.8786"
    joaoflima
    Atlantic,49.2
    Levantine,15.8
    Baltic,15.4
    Mediterranean,14.4
    Iberomaurusian,4.6
    Amerindian,0.4
    African,0.2




    "distance%=1.6568"
    Greek
    Levantine,45
    Baltic,28
    Mediterranean,22.4
    Caucasian,4.4
    Amerindian,0.2




    "distance%=3.0687"
    Mycenaean
    Levantine,55.8
    Mediterranean,42.8
    Caucasian,1.2
    SouthAfrican,0.2




    "distance%=3.3707"
    Eihwaz
    Levantine,61.2
    Baltic,17.4
    Mediterranean,12.6
    Atlantic,5.4
    Turkic,2.4
    Caucasian,1




    "distance%=1.967"
    Roma
    Levantine,43.8
    SouthAsian,26.4
    Baltic,18.4
    Caucasian,9.8
    Mediterranean,1.6




    "distance%=3.0759"
    Ruderico
    Atlantic,71.6
    Levantine,19.2
    Iberomaurusian,4.8
    Baltic,3.6
    SouthAfrican,0.8




    "distance%=3.0254"
    LTG
    Levantine,54.2
    Baltic,20.8
    Atlantic,17
    Caucasian,8


    "distance%=1.7928"
    Camulogene_Rix
    Atlantic,45.2
    Levantine,25.4
    Baltic,22.2
    Caucasian,6.6
    Australian,0.2
    Iberomaurusian,0.2
    SouthAsian,0.2


    "distance%=1.9522"
    ph2ter_scaled
    Baltic,57.8
    Atlantic,24.2
    Levantine,12
    Caucasian,5.4
    Amerindian,0.6


    "distance%=2.5542"
    Tomenable
    Baltic,68.2
    Atlantic,18
    Levantine,12
    Caucasian,1.8




    "distance%=2.8345"
    Dorkymon_scaled
    Baltic,51.4
    Mediterranean,19.4
    Levantine,17.8
    Caucasian,8
    EastAsian,3.4




    "distance%=1.9698"
    Prosigoj_scaled
    Baltic,52.4
    Levantine,27.6
    Mediterranean,16.6
    Caucasian,3.2
    Amerindian,0.2




    "distance%=1.4819"
    Austrian
    Baltic,42.6
    Atlantic,38
    Levantine,11.8
    Caucasian,7.6


    "distance%=2.6447"
    michal3141_scaled
    Baltic,76.4
    Mediterranean,10
    Levantine,8.4
    Atlantic,1.6
    Caucasian,1.2
    EastAsian,0.8
    SouthAsian,0.8
    Amerindian,0.6
    SouthAfrican,0.2


    "distance%=2.6788"
    Mykhailo_scaled
    Baltic,76.8
    Levantine,10.6
    Mediterranean,10.6
    Caucasian,1.2
    Amerindian,0.6
    Australian,0.2


    "distance%=3.8127"
    Timberwolf
    Atlantic,60.4
    Baltic,32
    Caucasian,7.6


    "distance%=1.4243"
    Turkish_Istanbul
    Levantine,46.6
    Caucasian,27
    Baltic,11.4
    Turkic,7.6
    Mediterranean,4.4
    SouthAsian,2.4
    Australian,0.4
    Amerindian,0.2


    "distance%=7.4495"
    Punjabi_Jat
    Caucasian,44.6
    SouthAsian,43.6
    Baltic,11.8


    "distance%=3.2973"
    Kaspias_scaled
    Levantine,45
    Baltic,25
    Turkic,16.4
    Mediterranean,7.2
    Caucasian,5.2
    Amerindian,0.6
    Australian,0.6


    "distance%=1.4026"
    Cossack_Ukrainian
    Baltic,77.2
    Levantine,7.6
    Mediterranean,7
    Turkic,4.2
    Atlantic,4
     
    Paper Trail MyHeritage K36 G25 Mod. FTDNA
    NW Croatian 87.5%
    Slovenian 6.25%
    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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    What is your reference for Levantine and/or Mediterranean? Some of the results look weird (like Myceanaean being 55% Levantine and only 42%, or Greek being 45% Levantine, and Eihwaz which is if I'm not mistaken 25% German or something is 61% Levantine).
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    [1] "distance%=3.0513"

    PV_scaled

    Atlantic,50.8
    Baltic,42.4
    Caucasian,3.2
    Turkic,1.8
    Levantine,0.8
    Australian,0.6
    SouthAfrican,0.2
    SouthAsian,0.2

    pen=0

    [1] "distance%=2.9798"

    PV_scaled

    Atlantic,49.6
    Baltic,41
    Caucasian,6
    Turkic,2.6
    Australian,0.4
    SouthAfrican,0.2
    SouthAsian,0.2
    Ancestry paper trail tally: 21.1% Colonial American (British Isles, German, Dutch, Swiss, French), 14.1% not traced past 19th Century United States (MD, NJ, NY, PA, VA), 7.8% Canadian (Ontario & Quebec), 40.6% German, 15.6% Czech, 0.8% British & Irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erikl86 View Post
    What is your reference for Levantine and/or Mediterranean? Some of the results look weird (like Myceanaean being 55% Levantine and only 42%, or Greek being 45% Levantine, and Eihwaz which is if I'm not mistaken 25% German or something is 61% Levantine).
    Cyprus for Levantine and Sardinian for Mediterranean
     
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    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    Cyprus for Levantine and Sardinian for Mediterranean
    I see.

    My suggestion is not to use Cyprus, as they aren't fully Levantines (in Global25 they are only 50% Levantine, the rest Greek-like, and in most samples I've seen they are 60% Aegean Greek like, 40% Levantine). Use Lebanese Christians or Samaritans. Lebanese Christians would be slightly better because they are less genetically drifted as a result of endogamy.

    I would separate Mediterranean to West and East, as these are very different and you have a lot of populations which would show East Mediterranean but not West Mediterranean.

    For East Mediterranean I'd use either East Sicilian or Crete - or you could also use Italian Jewish or Romaniote Jewish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erikl86 View Post
    I see.

    My suggestion is not to use Cyprus, as they aren't fully Levantines (in Global25 they are only 50% Levantine, the rest Greek-like, and in most samples I've seen they are 60% Aegean Greek like, 40% Levantine). Use Lebanese Christians or Samaritans. Lebanese Christians would be slightly better because they are less genetically drifted as a result of endogamy.

    I would separate Mediterranean to West and East, as these are very different and you have a lot of populations which would show East Mediterranean but not West Mediterranean.

    For East Mediterranean I'd use either East Sicilian or Crete - or you could also use Italian Jewish or Romaniote Jewish.
    OK for Samaritan, but I think that separating Crete and Levantine is not so good idea..
     
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    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    OK for Samaritan, but I think that separating Crete and Levantine is not so good idea..
    All modern East Mediterraneans have some Levantine admixture (which Western Jews and Cypriots probably having the most) - but take into consideration this is one of the things that defines them.

    In your own PCA, one can see that they all group tightly together, and not with Levantines:

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    If Levantine is Lebanese Christian then

    "distance%=3.6514"


    Eihwaz


    Levantine,43.4
    Mediterranean,25
    Baltic,18.6
    Caucasian,11
    Atlantic,1
    Turkic,1


    "distance%=3.3755"


    Mycenaean


    Mediterranean,50.8
    Levantine,41.2
    Caucasian,8

    "distance%=1.9877"


    Greek


    Levantine,32.8
    Mediterranean,29
    Baltic,27.8
    Caucasian,10.4
     
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    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
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    Hungarian 2.02
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    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erikl86 View Post
    All modern East Mediterraneans have some Levantine admixture (which Western Jews and Cypriots probably having the most) - but take into consideration this is one of the things that defines them.

    In your own PCA, one can see that they all group tightly together, and not with Levantines:
    But they are a mix of Levantine, Sardinian, Caucasian and Atlantic/Baltic.
     
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    "distance%=1.8786"
    joaoflima
    Atlantic,49.2
    Levantine,15.8
    Baltic,15.4
    Mediterranean,14.4
    Iberomaurusian,4.6
    Amerindian,0.4
    African,0.2

    "distance%=3.0759"
    Ruderico
    Atlantic,71.6
    Levantine,19.2
    Iberomaurusian,4.8
    Baltic,3.6
    SouthAfrican,0.8


    It's pretty neat how I get such low Baltic, no Mediterranean, but really high Atlantic. Thanks for doing this ph2ter
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