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    Quote Originally Posted by Eterne View Post
    @Ruderico, like lukaszM mentions, the unscaled values will tend to work better at neighbour joining dendrograms the classical clustering (though with distorted distances), because as I understand it, under NJ it matters if the data matches the closest populations correctly, while classical clustering is placing a row based on all its relationships.

    As the unscaled values still capture the closest pops about as well as scaled values, and only go badly wrong as distances increase, the NJ trees on unscaled won't be so bad (while classical clustering will take into account lots of the long range distances which are not well captured in unscaled data and go quite wrong).
    Yes, I remembered someone noticed it in comments section on Eurogenes. Maybe it was you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eterne View Post
    @Ruderico, like lukaszM mentions, the unscaled values will tend to work better at neighbour joining dendrograms the classical clustering (though with distorted distances), because as I understand it, under NJ it matters if the data matches the closest populations correctly, while classical clustering is placing a row based on all its relationships.

    As the unscaled values still capture the closest pops about as well as scaled values, and only go badly wrong as distances increase, the NJ trees on unscaled won't be so bad (while classical clustering will take into account lots of the long range distances which are not well captured in unscaled data and go quite wrong).
    Alright, but somehow I still get the same error in PAST3 for some reason. For me it doesn't matter too much, I'm always clustered with the same individuals anyway
    YDNA - E-Y31991>PF4428>BY36857. Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1680 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal
    mtDNA - H20. Maria Josefa de Almeida, b. circa 1750 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

    Global25 PCA West Eurasia dataset Hidden Content
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    [1] "distance%=0.8188"

    Ruderico

    Scotland_LBA,39.6
    ALPc_MN,21.4
    England_CA_EBA,18.8
    Ukraine_N_o,14.6
    Iberomaurusian,5.6

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    Here are my results:

    "distance%=3.0553"

    AndrewV_scaled

    South-Atlantic,73.8
    South-Euro,14.4
    Central-Euro,11.8

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    If you guys have time. I would appreciate if somebody could run mine.
    Thanks.


     
    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Nino_scaled,0.126344,0.119832,0.063356,0.036822,0. 032621,0.015618,0.004935,0.007615,0.011044,0.00400 9,-0.002111,0.009741,-0.010406,-0.016377,0.010043,0.01538,0.009909,-0.002534,0.008045,0.012756,0.009733,-0.00272,0.006655,0.006145,0.000239

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Nino,0.0111,0.0118,0.0168,0.0114,0.0106,0.0056,0.0 021,0.0033,0.0054,0.0022,-0.0013,0.0065,-0.007,-0.0119,0.0074,0.0116,0.0076,-0.002,0.0064,0.0102,0.0078,-0.0022,0.0054,0.0051,0.0002
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    If you guys have time. I would appreciate if somebody could run mine.
    Thanks.


     
    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Nino_scaled,0.126344,0.119832,0.063356,0.036822,0. 032621,0.015618,0.004935,0.007615,0.011044,0.00400 9,-0.002111,0.009741,-0.010406,-0.016377,0.010043,0.01538,0.009909,-0.002534,0.008045,0.012756,0.009733,-0.00272,0.006655,0.006145,0.000239

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Nino,0.0111,0.0118,0.0168,0.0114,0.0106,0.0056,0.0 021,0.0033,0.0054,0.0022,-0.0013,0.0065,-0.007,-0.0119,0.0074,0.0116,0.0076,-0.002,0.0064,0.0102,0.0078,-0.0022,0.0054,0.0051,0.0002
     
    Fit 2.6394
    Central-Euro K7 4.17
    Channel-North-Sea K7 10
    NE-Euro K7 0.83
    North-Atlantic K7 52.5
    South-Atlantic K7 27.5
    South-Euro K7 0
    Uralic K7 5
    nMonte K36
    Fit = 1.87
    NE England 47.5%
    IT Calabria 33.3%
    NL_Friesland 13.3%
    SV_Svealand 5.83%

    G25
    Fit=2.03
    Eng 61.67%
    IT South 30%
    Sweden 8.33%


    E-V13 => E-PH1246 => E-BY14160
    Antonio Reale born circa 1710, Ciminà Italy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    If you guys have time. I would appreciate if somebody could run mine.
    Thanks.


     
    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Nino_scaled,0.126344,0.119832,0.063356,0.036822,0. 032621,0.015618,0.004935,0.007615,0.011044,0.00400 9,-0.002111,0.009741,-0.010406,-0.016377,0.010043,0.01538,0.009909,-0.002534,0.008045,0.012756,0.009733,-0.00272,0.006655,0.006145,0.000239

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Nino,0.0111,0.0118,0.0168,0.0114,0.0106,0.0056,0.0 021,0.0033,0.0054,0.0022,-0.0013,0.0065,-0.007,-0.0119,0.0074,0.0116,0.0076,-0.002,0.0064,0.0102,0.0078,-0.0022,0.0054,0.0051,0.0002
     





    "distance%=2.953"

    Nino_scaled

    North-Atlantic,34.8
    Channel-North-Sea,30
    Central-Euro,15.6
    South-Atlantic,10.8
    Uralic,4.8
    South-Euro,4




    "distance%=2.5484"(pen=0)

    Nino_scaled

    North-Atlantic,56
    South-Atlantic,34.4
    Uralic,8.2
    NE-Euro,1.4


    i didn't notice previous post
    my apologizes to digital noise
    Last edited by Trelvern; 02-27-2019 at 09:09 AM.

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    Last edited by Trelvern; 02-27-2019 at 09:06 AM.

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    "distance%=1.8264"

    Trelvern_scaled

    Channel-North-Sea,45.6
    North-Atlantic,33
    South-Atlantic,17.2
    South-Euro,3.8
    Uralic,0.4


    "distance%=1.7788"(pen=0)

    Trelvern_scaled

    North-Atlantic,60.6
    South-Atlantic,19.2
    Channel-North-Sea,12.6
    South-Euro,7
    Uralic,0.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trelvern View Post
    "distance%=2.953"

    Nino_scaled

    North-Atlantic,34.8
    Channel-North-Sea,30
    Central-Euro,15.6
    South-Atlantic,10.8
    Uralic,4.8
    South-Euro,4




    "distance%=2.5484"(pen=0)

    Nino_scaled

    North-Atlantic,56
    South-Atlantic,34.4
    Uralic,8.2
    NE-Euro,1.4


    i didn't notice previous post
    my apologizes to digital noise
    Thank you. Good calculator. Fits my ancestry perfect also. Specially with Pen = 0.

    50-60% Swedish.. Around 10 % Saami. Around 30-40% South European.
    Last edited by Nino90; 02-27-2019 at 11:10 AM.

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    Sample Fit Central-Euro Channel-North-Sea NE-Euro North-Atlantic South-Atlantic South-Euro Uralic
    1 Test1:Me_scaled 3.5948 10 5 0 5 26.67 53.33 0
    2 Test2ad_scaled 2.5889 65 0 0 16.67 2.5 15.83 0


    [
    {
    "sample": "Test1:Me_scaled",
    "fit": 3.5948,
    "South-Euro": 53.33,
    "South-Atlantic": 26.67,
    "Central-Euro": 10,
    "Channel-North-Sea": 5,
    "North-Atlantic": 5,
    "NE-Euro": 0,
    "Uralic": 0,
    "closestDistances": [
    "South-Euro:Sicilian_West: 5.349862",
    "South-Atlantic:Spanish_Galicia: 5.477938",
    "South-Euro:Sicilian_East: 5.727019",
    "South-Atlanticortuguese: 5.732669",
    "Central-Euro:German: 8.391673",
    "South-Atlantic:Spanish_Pais_Vasco: 8.669796",
    "Channel-North-Sea:English_Cornwall: 9.251213",
    "Channel-North-Seautch: 9.261363",
    "Channel-North-Sea:English: 9.276441",
    "Central-Euro:Czech: 9.573732",
    "North-Atlantic:Scottish: 9.592094",
    "North-Atlantic:Irish: 9.711474",
    "North-Atlantic:Orcadian: 9.820917",
    "North-Atlantic:Norwegian: 10.460208",
    "NE-Euro:Lithuanian: 15.047920",
    "NE-Euro:Latvian: 16.079156",
    "Uralic:Saami: 22.781290"
    ]
    },
    {
    "sample": "Test2ad_scaled",
    "fit": 2.5889,
    "Central-Euro": 65,
    "North-Atlantic": 16.67,
    "South-Euro": 15.83,
    "South-Atlantic": 2.5,
    "Channel-North-Sea": 0,
    "NE-Euro": 0,
    "Uralic": 0,
    "closestDistances": [
    "Central-Euro:German: 3.243112",
    "Channel-North-Seautch: 4.101961",
    "Channel-North-Sea:English_Cornwall: 4.116881",
    "Channel-North-Sea:English: 4.152214",
    "North-Atlantic:Scottish: 4.328836",
    "North-Atlantic:Irish: 4.472193",
    "North-Atlantic:Orcadian: 4.558864",
    "Central-Euro:Czech: 4.718850",
    "North-Atlantic:Norwegian: 5.099589",
    "South-Atlantic:Spanish_Galicia: 6.310137",
    "South-Atlanticortuguese: 6.360630",
    "South-Atlantic:Spanish_Pais_Vasco: 6.732773",
    "South-Euro:Sicilian_West: 9.630520",
    "NE-Euro:Lithuanian: 10.206024",
    "South-Euro:Sicilian_East: 10.312764",
    "NE-Euro:Latvian: 11.318697",
    "Uralic:Saami: 20.273786"
    ]
    }
    ]

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