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    This calculator is just for fun. Let nobody take it too seriously...Here are the reference values:
    Code:
    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC12,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC22,PC23,PC24,PC25
    ALANI,0.10551405,0.09652585,-0.0268227,-0.0158593,-0.03491415,0.0046433,0.0087012,-0.00262495,-0.0505532,-0.0279596,0.0006739,0.0092092,-0.0180769,-0.0042424,0.00927995,-0.0107365,0.0067995,-0.00590995,-0.01134125,0.0106646,0.0056087,0.00309745,-0.0012109,-0.0042084,-0.0033021
    ARMENII,0.10079025,0.1256379,-0.0602451,-0.0508456,-0.03495005,-0.01150435,0.00403415,-0.0062382,-0.03113865,-0.0087077,0.0021247,-0.0013913,-0.0004907,-0.00028215,-0.0011469,0.00707595,0.000528,0.0028377,0.0014602,-0.00461275,0.0024498,-0.0010799,-0.001366,-0.0030824,0.00157665
    BRITANNICI,0.127197,0.1414125,0.06071675,0.052003,0.0427,0.02224175,0.00423,0.007038,0.000767,0.00314375,-0.00150225,0.011952,-0.016687,-0.0180285,0.0250405,0.0044085,-0.01101775,-0.00063375,0.01049575,0.00037475,0.00723725,0.0034625,-0.00123225,0.015062,-0.00128725
    FENNI,0.12821106,0.08217224,0.0877019,0.07558852,0.02812794,0.02330006,0.00945382,0.01431178,0.00073578,-0.0271109,0.00380542,-0.00917938,0.01675954,0.00877946,-0.00398658,-0.00046744,-0.00295628,-0.00030438,-0.00126118,0.00304446,0.00434514,-0.00052922,0.0031485,0.0014295,0.00321256
    GERMANI,0.130611875,0.135573,0.06316775,0.05838225,0.03946875,0.02014975,0.0048175,0.005595875,0.003476875,-0.00316625,-0.002578,0.0025665,-0.01007175,-0.0053845,0.014284625,-0.000066125,-0.012810125,0.0033255,0.001602625,0.00456475,0.005677375,0.007774625,-0.000724125,0.010603875,0.001063
    HISPANI,0.114898,0.1480416,0.0388959,-0.002763433,0.044110667,-0.0030445,-0.0010575,0.0016345,0.022810033,0.0336986,-0.002539633,0.008363267,-0.015716733,-0.0135904,0.0099566,-0.002784433,-0.004552567,-0.000524367,-0.001567733,-0.0013826,0.0042494,0.0001545,-0.001122933,-0.003025733,-0.000558867
    HYPERBOREIS,0.110484233,-0.007514967,0.086536633,0.0621775,-0.0146488,0.0074278,0.0115314,0.015953233,-0.005304033,-0.0341692,0.018165867,-0.011644667,0.0260503,-0.021547033,-0.022611033,-0.014483233,-0.002399033,-0.0047593,-0.021783333,-0.018333833,0.008227133,0.002398967,-0.0267858,0.0059606,-0.000997867
    MAURI,-0.057146275,0.13211965,-0.01563165,-0.075878325,0.017389075,-0.033474525,-0.024877075,0.006419875,0.0544526,0.019613775,0.007139175,-0.009233575,0.02750335,-0.01045645,0.01275205,-0.00641535,-0.003517875,-0.01360785,-0.0297658,0.00822965,-0.00929725,-0.021574125,0.017312175,-0.001599225,0.001903775
    SCYTHI,0.10686095,-0.0078873,0.05555615,0.0331075,-0.00403155,0.0067631,0.00819765,0.0089341,-0.0091763,-0.0183938,-0.0021408,-0.0052428,0.0103369,0.0019543,-0.00619555,-0.00733445,-0.00503715,-0.001269,-0.0030378,-0.00344745,-0.0044505,-0.00100985,-0.0035537,-0.0010041,0.00166245
    SYRIA,0.0779005,0.140862317,-0.049552183,-0.07625315,-0.01341265,-0.0280877,-0.0022596,-0.0049259,0.005633517,0.0059524,0.006478967,-0.005694167,0.013281817,0.002474917,-0.006286267,0.006332683,-0.003021317,0.000583817,0.002323583,-0.000538433,-0.000941717,0.0013805,-0.0006459,0.0009524,0.001424067
    VASCONES,0.12997965,0.15121785,0.05672945,0.0109156,0.0569969,0.0013169,-0.0023631,0.00186655,0.03097855,0.04340165,-0.0069006,0.01097355,-0.0218771,-0.0163932,0.0155822,0.0008956,-0.00886335,0.00290045,-0.00126605,-2.24E-03,0.00947355,0.00248615,-0.007764,-0.00910345,0.00116685
    VENEDI,0.133744781,0.124673213,0.080681834,0.074163569,0.040129409,0.028191894,0.011110775,0.012736219,-0.001451781,-0.030124669,-0.003240006,-0.010489831,0.018563675,0.0254115,-0.0121545,0.000937722,0.004147163,-1.66188E-05,0.001855009,0.00310555,-0.001529628,-0.004516381,0.007562519,-0.007283575,0.001306738
    OSTROGOTHAE,0.104717,0.066009,0.039221,0.011305,0.001846,0.018965,0.001175,0.001615,-0.01493,-0.005832,-0.001299,0.006444,0.000446,-0.003991,0.012893,0.001193,0.001825,-0.005828,0.005028,0.001126,0.002121,-0.009892,-0.008134,0.004217,-0.003592
    GALLI,0.127482,0.142174,0.054682,0.031977,0.048009,0.016455,-0.00188,0.00923,0.003068,0.010934,-0.008119,0.006294,-0.017839,-0.009083,0.02253,0.016309,0.007693,0.006334,0.007668,0.003377,0.012104,0.004946,-0.008627,0.006868,-0.001916
    ITALI,0.11657375,0.1570684,0.02108735,-0.0366874,0.04123835,-0.01659385,-0.0024871,-0.00034625,0.02379315,0.05104125,-0.00242235,0.01242625,-0.0203294,-0.00945025,-0.0058021,-0.00514885,-0.000239,-0.00003175,0.0010264,-0.0113699,-0.003556,-0.00120575,-0.0031636,-0.00922815,-0.00257465
    GRAECI,0.1098395,0.14319,0.005468,-0.035207,0.008001,-0.0082275,0.0012925,-0.001731,-0.00317,0.010661,0.0035725,0.004271,-0.003791,0.007432,-0.0172365,-0.003182,0.0072365,0.005511,0.004525,-0.0070655,-0.0048665,0.0008655,-0.0028345,-0.00235,0.0008385
    ILLYRII,0.12236,0.1391275,0.0254555,-0.004522,0.0267745,-0.0013945,0.0015275,0.0050765,-0.0091015,0.009476,-0.0014615,0.0003745,-0.0018585,0.0046105,-0.0181865,-0.002254,0.005541,0.0017105,0.0040855,-0.007003,-0.0028075,-0.0005565,0.000986,-0.001747,-0.000958
    Some results:
    Saami
    HYPERBOREIS,83
    FENNI,10.6
    SCYTHI,6.4

    Avar_Hungary_Szolad
    VENEDI,80.8
    VASCONES,8
    GRAECI,6
    GERMANI,2.6
    ITALI,2.6

    Turkish_Istanbul
    ARMENII,49.6
    SCYTHI,23.2
    ITALI,13.6
    GRAECI,7.8
    ALANI,5
    SYRIA,0.8

    Belgian
    GERMANI,45.4
    GALLI,19
    ITALI,18.2
    BRITANNICI,7.8
    OSTROGOTHAE,5
    HISPANI,3.6
    ARMENII,1

    Serbian
    ILLYRII,42.8
    VENEDI,32.4
    ITALI,13
    GRAECI,9.8
    SYRIA,2

    Finnish
    FENNI,82.2
    GERMANI,17.8

    Dutch
    GERMANI,57.2
    GALLI,21.2
    BRITANNICI,14
    OSTROGOTHAE,3
    SCYTHI,2.4
    MAURI,1
    FENNI,0.8
    HISPANI,0.4

    Czech
    VENEDI,49.4
    GERMANI,30.2
    ITALI,9.2
    GALLI,5.6
    SYRIA,5.6

    English
    GERMANI,43.6
    BRITANNICI,32
    GALLI,13
    VASCONES,8.2
    OSTROGOTHAE,3.2

    Swedish
    GERMANI,57.6
    GALLI,17.2
    ENNI,15.8
    VENEDI,5.4
    BRITANNICI,4

    Italian_Tuscan
    ITALI,35
    GALLI,24.8
    GRAECI,19
    ARMENII,8.8
    SYRIA,6.6
    LLYRII,5
    ALANI,0.8

    Greek
    GRAECI,40.8
    ILLYRII,38.2
    ITALI,11.6
    VENEDI,5.2
    SYRIA,4.2

    Moldovan
    VENEDI,40.6
    ILLYRII,30
    GRAECI,8.8
    ITALI,7.2
    SCYTHI,5.4
    GALLI,3
    GERMANI,1.8
    ALANI,1.2
    SYRIA,1
    ARMENII,0.6
    MAURI,0.4

    Belarusian
    VENEDI,94
    ITALI,3.8
    SCYTHI,1.6
    SYRIA,0.6

    Last edited by ph2ter; 11-16-2018 at 01:38 PM.
     
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    Slovenian 6.25%
    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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    How can I get result?

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    These random calcs are fun, so I'll play along. These results are with pen=0, don't know if you used the same or 0.001. I don't know which to use, nor when, so eh..




    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
    HISPANI VASCONES ITALI ILLYRII GALLI GRAECI BRITANNICI
    3.007444 5.505877 5.788010 7.166649 7.625632 8.389759 8.659058
    GERMANI
    9.972300

    [1] "distance%=2.3597"

    MrsRuderico_scaled

    HISPANI,45.8
    VASCONES,24.2
    MAURI,11.6
    GALLI,7.4
    ITALI,7.2
    SCYTHI,2
    OSTROGOTHAE,1.4
    ARMENII,0.4





    [1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCE%"
    HISPANI VASCONES ITALI ILLYRII GALLI GRAECI BRITANNICI
    2.936670 5.349775 5.639760 7.505855 8.101830 8.666501 8.671164
    GERMANI
    9.910361
    [1] "distance%=2.3542"

    Ruderico_scaled

    HISPANI,53.2
    VASCONES,23.2
    MAURI,11.4
    ITALI,6.6
    BRITANNICI,3
    GERMANI,2.6
    Last edited by Ruderico; 11-16-2018 at 10:45 AM.
    YDNA - E-Y31991>PF4428>E-Y134097>E-Y168273 (probably Scythian-Sarmatian). Domingos Rodrigues, b. circa 1680 Hidden Content , Viana do Castelo, Portugal
    mtDNA - H20. Maria Josefa de Almeida, b. circa 1750 Hidden Content , Porto, Portugal

    Global25 PCA West Eurasia dataset Hidden Content
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    [1] "distance%=1.7726"

    Ruderico

    Celtiberian,77.6
    Roman_Imperial_proxy,13.6
    Guanche,8.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    How can I get result?
    You must use scaled coordinates with the help of R program and nMonte3.R function.

    Your result with pen=0 is:

    "distance%=2.582"


    Mykhailo_scaled


    VENEDI,75.6
    ILLYRII,11.8
    GALLI,8.4
    MAURI,2.2
    GRAECI,1.4
    HYPERBOREIS,0.6
     
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    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    You must use scaled coordinates with the help of R program and nMonte3.R function.

    Your result with pen=0 is:

    "distance%=2.582"


    Mykhailo_scaled


    VENEDI,75.6
    ILLYRII,11.8
    GALLI,8.4
    MAURI,2.2
    GRAECI,1.4
    HYPERBOREIS,0.6
    Which Scythian samples did you use?
    Known ancestry: 1/2 Romanian Northeast + 1/4 Romanian Southeast + 1/4 Romanian Bukovina Ukraine
    23andme: 53.6% Greek & Balkan (4% Broadly South Euro), 35.7% East Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi Jewish, 6.5% Broadly Euro
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: Anatolia_N 50.2%, EHG 32.6%, CHG 11.2%, WHG 3.8%, East Asian 2.2%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    Which Scythian samples did you use?
    Mainly the Tatars.
     
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    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    Mainly the Tatars.
    Oh, I thought you are basing the components on ancients
    Known ancestry: 1/2 Romanian Northeast + 1/4 Romanian Southeast + 1/4 Romanian Bukovina Ukraine
    23andme: 53.6% Greek & Balkan (4% Broadly South Euro), 35.7% East Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi Jewish, 6.5% Broadly Euro
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: Anatolia_N 50.2%, EHG 32.6%, CHG 11.2%, WHG 3.8%, East Asian 2.2%
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    Ph2ter, could you do mine? You used the scaled version right?

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Radboud,0.12862011246302,0.138112000926784,0.06147 0669265919,0.044897215169763,0.0369299878147827,0. 0167334395746959,-0.000940042552228355,0.00230759615184287,0.0036814 2907034755,0.00145788888465479,-0.00665792535254038,-0.00149866607354674,-0.0127848191226939,-0.0132117765648682,0.0217152480989741,0.0198884388 527607,0.0146030133876539,-0.00228039470267759,-0.00540501618868991,0.00425203951063487,0.00711244 894533522,0.00964491368546137,0.00419042241307484, 0.01590586306995,0.00107774765135443

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radboud View Post
    Ph2ter, could you do mine? You used the scaled version right?

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Radboud,0.12862011246302,0.138112000926784,0.06147 0669265919,0.044897215169763,0.0369299878147827,0. 0167334395746959,-0.000940042552228355,0.00230759615184287,0.0036814 2907034755,0.00145788888465479,-0.00665792535254038,-0.00149866607354674,-0.0127848191226939,-0.0132117765648682,0.0217152480989741,0.0198884388 527607,0.0146030133876539,-0.00228039470267759,-0.00540501618868991,0.00425203951063487,0.00711244 894533522,0.00964491368546137,0.00419042241307484, 0.01590586306995,0.00107774765135443
    Yes, the scaled coords.

    "distance%=2.8778"


    Radboud


    GALLI,68.4
    GERMANI,21
    FENNI,9.6
    ALANI,1
     
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    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    Oh, I thought you are basing the components on ancients
    Some are a combination of the ancients, but some are modern.
     
    Paper Trail MyHeritage K36 G25 Mod. FTDNA
    NW Croatian 87.5%
    Slovenian 6.25%
    Unknown 6.25%
    E. Europe 35.7%
    Balkan 34.4%
    Scandinavia 21.2%
    Baltic 8.7%
    Grenzmark 0.94
    Czechs 0.93,
    Hungary 0.91
    Volhyn 0.91,
    C. Rusyns 0.91
    Slovenia 0.91
    Czech 1.79
    Hungarian 2.02
    Slovenian 2.07
    Croatian 2.39
    Ukrainian 3.01
    East Europe 99%
    Trace 1%

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