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    pen=0

    World

    [1] "distance%=0.8852"

    Europe,95
    Med,3.8
    Turkic,1.2

    Europe

    [1] "distance%=0.8852"

    WEurope,51.6
    NEurope,34.6
    NWEurope,8.8
    WMed,3.8
    Turkic,1.2

    pen=0.001

    World

    [1] "distance%=0.9181"

    Europe,97.6
    Med,2.4

    Europe

    [1] "distance%=0.9119"

    WEurope,61.6
    NEurope,27.6
    NWEurope,7.2
    WMed,2.8
    SAtlantic,0.8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mykhailo View Post
    2 more calculators, looks good Randwulf

    You can run my result is possible?

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Mykhailo_scaled,0.12862,0.125926,0.06939,0.056202, 0.037545,0.019801,0.00658,0.011076,-0.000205,-0.017859,-0.004872,-0.007943,0.017988,0.017891,-0.013843,0.01127,0.02373,-0.000887,-0.001508,0.009379,-0.006364,-0.002102,0.005423,0.000361,0.000718

    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Mykhailo,0.0113,0.0124,0.0184,0.0174,0.0122,0.0071 ,0.0028,0.0048,-0.0001,-0.0098,-0.003,-0.0053,0.0121,0.013,-0.0102,0.0085,0.0182,-0.0007,-0.0012,0.0075,-0.0051,-0.0017,0.0044,0.0003,0.0006
    pen=0

    [1] "distance%=1.1287"

    Europe,75.2
    Med,17.2
    Caucasian,2.6
    SWAsian,1.4
    NAfrican,1
    Polar,1
    EAfrican,0.8
    Amerindian,0.4
    CentAsian,0.4

    default penalty

    [1] "distance%=1.5167"

    Europe,82.2
    Med,9.6
    Caucasian,4
    CentAsian,1.6
    SWAsian,1.2
    Amerindian,0.2
    EAfrican,0.2
    IndoAryan,0.2
    NAfrican,0.2
    Polar,0.2
    TribalSouthIndian,0.2
    Turkic,0.2

    default penalty:

    [1] "distance%=1.5455"

    Baltic,35.4
    NEurope,24.4
    WEurope,20
    WMed,6.6
    Caucasian,5.6
    SAtlantic,3
    CentAsian,1.4
    NWEurope,1.4
    CentEurope,0.8
    EMed,0.6
    SWAsian,0.4
    EAfrican,0.2
    IndoAryan,0.2

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    What are Western Europe, Northern Europe and NW Europe generally based on?

    It looks like a good proxy for Celtic vs Germanic for me, Northern Europe being Germanic. I always estimate that I'm 1/4 to 1/3 Germanic.
    LivingDNA: 97.6% British Isles, 2.4% Scandinavia. 45.1% Central England related.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firemonkey View Post
    Can you do my father's and mine please?


    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Tim_G,0.0114,0.0129,0.0172,0.0146,0.0141,0.0069,0. 0011,0.0013,0.0034,-0.0003,-0.0016,0.0034,-0.007,-0.0081,0.0205,0.0048,-0.0163,0.0046,0.0015,0.0014,0.0035,0.0015,-0.0018,0.0071,-0.0026


    ,PC1,PC2,PC3,PC4,PC5,PC6,PC7,PC8,PC9,PC10,PC11,PC1 2,PC13,PC14,PC15,PC16,PC17,PC18,PC19,PC20,PC21,PC2 2,PC23,PC24,PC25
    Tim_G_father,0.0121,0.0137,0.016,0.0122,0.0143,0.0 062,0.0022,0.005,0.0038,-0.0007,-0.0018,0.0031,-0.0068,-0.0029,0.022,0.0013,-0.0162,0.0043,0.002,0.0056,0.0074,0.0031,-0.0033,0.0065,-0.0014
    firemonkey:

    pen=0

    [1] "distance%=0.642"

    Europe,95.8
    SEAsian,2
    SWAsian,1.4
    EAfrican,0.4
    Med,0.4

    default penalty:

    [1] "distance%=0.765"

    Europe,97
    Med,1.8
    SEAsian,0.8
    CentAsian,0.4

    default penalty:

    [1] "distance%=0.7705"

    NEurope,55.4
    WEurope,40.2
    SAtlantic,1.4
    WMed,1.4
    NWEurope,0.6
    CentAsian,0.4
    EAfrican,0.2
    Polar,0.2
    SEAsian,0.2

    firemonkey father:

    pen=0

    [1] "distance%=0.9523"

    Europe,91.8
    SWAsian,4
    Med,1.6
    SEAsian,1.6
    Polar,1

    default penalty:

    [1] "distance%=1.0847"

    Europe,91.8
    Med,7.2
    SEAsian,0.4
    NAfrican,0.2
    Polar,0.2
    SWAsian,0.2

    default penalty:

    [1] "distance%=1.0899"

    NEurope,55.2
    WEurope,36.8
    SAtlantic,4.8
    WMed,1.4
    Baltic,0.6
    SEAsian,0.6
    Caucasian,0.2
    CentEurope,0.2
    Polar,0.2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Molfish View Post
    What are Western Europe, Northern Europe and NW Europe generally based on?

    It looks like a good proxy for Celtic vs Germanic for me, Northern Europe being Germanic. I always estimate that I'm 1/4 to 1/3 Germanic.
    They are just the natural clusters that formed from the first three PCA positions within the European references. I named them based on the general location of most of the references. They are from the Iron Age mostly. Western Europe were mostly South British to French/Central/South German, NW Europe were the most extreme NW locations (Rathlin, Sweden, etc.), and Northern Europe samples were generally north from west to east. Again, they just formed clusters in the K means option of Past3, so I named them the best that I could based on some diversity in the locations. I am not sure the concept of the Celtic/Germanic apply in this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randwulf View Post
    firemonkey:

    pen=0

    [1] "distance%=0.642"

    Europe,95.8
    SEAsian,2
    SWAsian,1.4
    EAfrican,0.4
    Med,0.4

    default penalty:

    [1] "distance%=0.765"

    Europe,97
    Med,1.8
    SEAsian,0.8
    CentAsian,0.4

    default penalty:

    [1] "distance%=0.7705"

    NEurope,55.4
    WEurope,40.2
    SAtlantic,1.4
    WMed,1.4
    NWEurope,0.6
    CentAsian,0.4
    EAfrican,0.2
    Polar,0.2
    SEAsian,0.2

    firemonkey father:

    pen=0

    [1] "distance%=0.9523"

    Europe,91.8
    SWAsian,4
    Med,1.6
    SEAsian,1.6
    Polar,1

    default penalty:

    [1] "distance%=1.0847"

    Europe,91.8
    Med,7.2
    SEAsian,0.4
    NAfrican,0.2
    Polar,0.2
    SWAsian,0.2

    default penalty:

    [1] "distance%=1.0899"

    NEurope,55.2
    WEurope,36.8
    SAtlantic,4.8
    WMed,1.4
    Baltic,0.6
    SEAsian,0.6
    Caucasian,0.2
    CentEurope,0.2
    Polar,0.2
    Is pen=0 more realistic than default penalty?

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    World:

    [1] "penalty= 0.001"
    [1] "Ncycles= 1000"
    [1] "distance%=0.782"

    PV

    Europe,87.8
    Med,10.6
    CentAsian,0.6
    Polar,0.4
    Saami,0.2
    SEAsian,0.2
    SWAsian,0.2

    [1] "penalty= 0"
    [1] "Ncycles= 1000"
    [1] "distance%=0.5023"

    PV

    Europe,80.6
    Med,16
    SSA,2
    SEAsian,1.2
    Turkic,0.2

    Europe:

    [1] "penalty= 0.001"
    [1] "Ncycles= 1000"
    [1] "distance%=0.7687"

    PV

    WEurope,42.2
    NEurope,34.8
    SAtlantic,6.2
    Baltic,6
    WMed,4.4
    NWEurope,3.6
    CentEurope,1.6
    Turkic,0.4
    IndoAryan,0.2
    NIndian,0.2
    SSA,0.2
    SWAsian,0.2

    [1] "penalty= 0"
    [1] "Ncycles= 1000"
    [1] "distance%=0.5023"

    PV

    NEurope,41.4
    WEurope,22.4
    WMed,16
    Baltic,12.8
    CentEurope,4
    SSA,2
    SEAsian,1.2
    Turkic,0.2
    Ancestry paper trail tally: 21.1% Colonial American (British Isles, German, Dutch, Swiss, French), 14.1% not traced past 19th Century United States (MD, NJ, NY, PA, VA), 7.8% Canadian (Ontario & Quebec), 40.6% German, 15.6% Czech, 0.8% British & Irish

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmoney View Post
    Is pen=0 more realistic than default penalty?
    I think the default penalty works pretty well for most, but if you are mixed you may want to try pen=0. I am interested in seeing everyone's results.

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    Mother's Euro default pen

    [1] "distance%=0.8145"

    WEurope,46.8
    NWEurope,38.4
    NEurope,8.4
    WMed,2
    CentEurope,1.4
    Caucasian,0.8
    EMed,0.8
    SAtlantic,0.8
    CentAsian,0.4
    Baltic,0.2

    Father's Euro default pen

    [1] "distance%=1.1654"

    WEurope,55.8
    NEurope,24.2
    NWEurope,14.2
    SAtlantic,3.8
    WMed,1.4
    Baltic,0.4
    Polar,0.2
    LivingDNA: 97.6% British Isles, 2.4% Scandinavia. 45.1% Central England related.
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    World

    [1] "distance%=0.831"

    Suresh_T

    NorthIndian,73.8
    IndoAryan,23.8
    Med,1.4
    NAfrican,0.6
    Polar,0.2
    SEAsian,0.2

    Euro
    [1] "distance%=0.8309"

    Suresh_T

    NIndian,73.4
    IndoAryan,24
    SAtlantic,1.4
    NAfrican,0.6
    TribalIndian,0.4
    Polar,0.2

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