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    The Guardian has just posted this. The other report must have broken the embargo. The Guardian story says one of the women grew up in the south and so must have brought her Jutish objects with her to Lincolnshire. This will feature on BBC 4's Digging for Britain at 9pm on Wednesday. Looking forward to it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...s-lincolnshire
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    The Guardian has just posted this. The other report must have broken the embargo. This will feature on BBC 4's Digging for Britain at 9pm on Wednesday. Looking forward to it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...s-lincolnshire
    Ah that makes perfect sense then. I figured something along those lines occurred, leading to HeritageDaily's removal of the article.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Those are really good pictures! I really hope this site gets considered for aDNA. I wonder if any of the male individuals in these graves were I1 members. That'd be a great find, add more Anglo-Saxon I1 to the list of aDNA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    Those are really good pictures! I really hope this site gets considered for aDNA. I wonder if any of the male individuals in these graves were I1 members. That'd be a great find, add more Anglo-Saxon I1 to the list of aDNA.
    I'm with you spruithean. We need more AS I1 to start understanding its movement into Britain. As you know, the only AS skeleton tested so far was I1. We can expect some of our U106 fellow travellers too, and who knows what else?
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    Some very nice finds, indeed.

    “The project's multi-faceted investigation, which incorporates cutting-edge scientific techniques,”

    I wish they had elaborated on the above a little more. The fact that they didn’t mention any aDNA testing worries me but maybe they’ll surprise us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    The Guardian has just posted this. The other report must have broken the embargo. The Guardian story says one of the women grew up in the south and so must have brought her Jutish objects with her to Lincolnshire. This will feature on BBC 4's Digging for Britain at 9pm on Wednesday. Looking forward to it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...s-lincolnshire
    Excellent - cheers for the heads up - set to record.

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    Just watched the programme. Twenty four graves were excavated and only one had no artefacts. There was a lot of emphasis on the science but no mention of DNA. Isotope analysis of one individual showed an upbringing from Kent to Brighton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Just watched the programme. Twenty four graves were excavated and only one had no artefacts. There was a lot of emphasis on the science but no mention of DNA. Isotope analysis of one individual showed an upbringing from Kent to Brighton.
    I'm not sure why DNA is so overlooked still for these cases. It could provide so much additional information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spruithean View Post
    I'm not sure why DNA is so overlooked still for these cases. It could provide so much additional information.
    I think we'll have to wait until those who built their careers on dismissing immigration into Britain have retired. All those books and professorships... I think the next generation will inevitably embrace the technology.
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