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    First ancient DNA from mainland Finland reveals origins of Siberian ancestry in regio

    Researchers from the Max-Planck-Institute for the Science of Human History and the University of Helsinki have analyzed the first ancient DNA from mainland Finland. As described in Nature Communications, ancient DNA was extracted from bones and teeth from a 3,500 year-old burial on the Kola Peninsula, Russia, and a 1,500 year-old water burial in Finland. The results reveal the possible path along which ancient people from Siberia spread to Finland and Northwestern Russia.



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    So what happened in Finland during the Iron Age, Baltic Proto-Finnic N1c and Proto/Early Germanics I1 settled Finland by the west and east and both pushed the poor Saamis further north into colder lands?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Govan View Post
    So what happened in Finland during the Iron Age, Baltic Proto-Finnic N1c and Proto/Early Germanics I1 settled Finland by the west and east and both pushed the poor Saamis further north into colder lands?
    Yes, linguistically and culturally, but not genetically. There seems to be c. 32-35% of Lakeland Saami admixture into modern Finns, and further north you go, the bigger the percentage becomes.

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    This paper is not brand new is it? The data was known a while ago no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    Yes, linguistically and culturally, but not genetically. There seems to be c. 32-35% of Lakeland Saami admixture into modern Finns, and further north you go, the bigger the percentage becomes.
    It would be very interesting if someone could target and draw out the Lakeland Saami ancestry in modern Finns genomes. I know Mauri has but I am not sure of his methods.

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    I would like to see a deeper analysis of the N-L1026 found in BOO to see how long ago it split from modern lines or if it is related to any modern subclades.

    It remains to be seen if BOO got its N from the Volga-Kama region like the people of the Tarand graves or if it has an origin in some trans-arctic migration from Siberia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J Man View Post
    This paper is not brand new is it? The data was known a while ago no?
    There was a preprint: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/early/2018/03/22/285437

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    Does anyone know what the dating is on DA234,DA236,DA238 from Damgaard? (labeled AncFinn & AncSaami) I can't seem to find that information anywhere...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Govan View Post
    So what happened in Finland during the Iron Age, Baltic Proto-Finnic N1c and Proto/Early Germanics I1 settled Finland by the west and east and both pushed the poor Saamis further north into colder lands?
    I1 in Finland is earlier than the Germanics.
    YDNA: R1b-Z220 (A7066+) (1800's Stepney, London(Bethnal Green), UK George Wood b. 1782
    maternal-grandfather YDNA: prob. I1 Gurr, George 1843, Feversham, Kent, England.
    maternal-grandmother YDNA: R1b-P311+ Beech, John Richard b. 1780, Lewes, England
    maternal-ggrandfather YDNA R1b-U106 Thomas, Edward b 1854, Sittingbourne, Kent
    paternal-ggf YDNA: R1b-L48. Gould, John Somerset England 1800s.
    paternal-ggf YDNA: R1b-L48. Scott, William Hamilton mdka Ireland(?) < 1800s

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